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Inaadan, unlike wiilwaal which nobody has a actual history or recorded documents about him, we have the taarikh of Sharmaarke salah baasha the conqueror of Zaylac well documented. 8-)



Emir Shermaarke Saalax Baasha (1790-1861) the conqueror of Zaylac


Shermaarke Saalax Baasha (1790-1861) the conqueror of Zaylac and the man who for the first time in Somali history brought Zaylac under the rule of Somalis, the first Somali Qadiif who in 1825 with 5 cannons and 60 H.Y musketeers took Zaylac and forced its Arab ruler Maxamed Al Baari out. He was

accorded the title of Qadiif Al Soomaal by Cabdixamiid Baasha and was presented with two Arab and one Turkish slave women. The founder of what was referred to as the Government of Zaylac.

Sharmaarke Salax Baasha (1790-1861) was HY –Muse Carre- and the only Isaaq ruler and Emperior of Zaylac and Awdal.


Richard Burton
First footsteps in East Africa
Chapter 2
LIFE IN ZAYLA.

The ruler of saylac at that 1827 was Garxajis Before And After The Othmany Empire By :

Sh. Sharmarke Ali Saalax Basha 1827

Sharmarke wuxuu ka talinayay, magaalada Saylac muddo dheer, laga soo bilaabo 1827-kii ilaa waxyar ka hor markuu Ingirsiisku sida rasmiga ah u soo galay Somaliland. Sharmarke, waxa uu wakiil u ahaa maamul xoogganaa oo ka jiray Yaman, kaasoo uu siin jiray cashuur




Sharmarke, waxa uu ahaa nin soomaali ah, balse xiligaa, ahaa nin maalqabeen ah, nin fahamsan maamullada adduunka ka jira, nin soo arkay xilligaa adduunyada meelo kala fog. Nin la odhan jiray Johnston oo wax ka qoray Berbera iyo Saylac 1844-kii wuxuu ku tilmaamay Sharmarke, nin xooggan oo maamulkiisu dhisanyahay, isla markaana ah nin firfircoon. Richard Burton oo ahaa basaaskii qarnigaa ugu weynaa ee Somaliland soo gala, wuxuu isaguna ku tilmaamay nin xilligaa 1854-kii maamulkiisu xoogganaa, oo magaalada Saylacna lahayd dhawr irridood oo keliya, oo laga soo galo, ganacsi xoog-lihina ka socday.

Sheekh Sharmarke, wuxuu ka talinayay magaalada Saylac muddo ka badan 30 sannadood.


Chapter 2

Life in Zayla.


Richard Burton


One Salimayn, a black slave from the Sawahil24, now secretary to the Hajji, reads our fortunes in the rosary. The “fal”25, as it is called, acts a prominent part in Somali life. Some men are celebrated for accuracy of prediction; and in times of danger, when the human mind is ever open to the “fooleries of faith,” perpetual reference is made to their art. The worldly wise Salimayn, I observed, never sent away a questioner with an ill-omened reply, but he also regularly insisted upon the efficacy of sacrifice and almsgiving, which, as they would assuredly be neglected, afforded him an excuse in case of accident. Then we had a recital of the tales common to Africa, and perhaps to all the world. In modern France, as in ancient Italy, “versipelles” become wolves and hide themselves in the woods: in Persia they change themselves into bears, and in Bornou and Shoa assume the shapes of lions, hyenas, and leopards. 26 The origin of this metamorphic superstition is easily traceable, like man’s fetisism or demonology, to his fears: a Bedouin, for instance, becomes dreadful by the reputation of sorcery: bears and hyenas are equally terrible; and the two objects of horror are easily connected. Curious to say, individuals having this power were pointed out to me, and people pretended to discover it in their countenances: at Zayla I was shown a Bedouin, by name Farih Badaun, who notably became a hyena at times, for the purpose of tasting human blood.27 About forty years ago, three brothers, Kayna, Fardayna, and Sollan, were killed on Gulays near Berberah for the crime of metamorphosis. The charge is usually substantiated either by the bestial tail remaining appended to a part of the human shape which the owner has forgotten to rub against the magic tree, or by some peculiar wound which the beast received and the man retained. Kindred to this superstition is the belief that many of the Bedouins have learned the languages of birds and beasts. Another widely diffused fancy is that of the Aksar28."



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War saylac miyaan cusmaniyitii xukumayn

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war orad taarikh so baro sxb you are as confused as teeri who though wiilwaal controlled the north or other tribes :lol: .
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Siciid85 wrote:Cusmaniyitii wa kuma oo baas? war orad taarikh so baro sxb you are as confused as teeri who though wiilwaal controlled the north or other tribes :lol: .
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Inadaan, indeed you shouldn't your the deluded one here who doesn't know about the taarikh of zeylac and haji sharmarkay, it's not my fault you don't have a actual documented taarikh of your figures like wiilwaal, while i do , next time bring sources like i did or put a socket in it. 8-)
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Inadaan, miid labad if you are refering to osmaniye -turks as cusmaanyiiti waan gartay.
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War waxaad dooni so qor wax dambe kugu qabsanmaayo
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ina aadan, that is the words of a defeated man, waad ogatahay you have no sources about the real documented history of wiilwaal. :D :up:
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xaged ku argtay anoo odhanaya wilwaal baa haystay saylac amabase anoo ka hadlaya wilwaal

waxaan idhi saylac turki baa xukumaysay ilaa inkiriisku qabsaday


adna cusmaniyitii baabad garanwayday
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ina aadan wrote:
Siciid85 wrote:Cusmaniyitii wa kuma oo baas? war orad taarikh so baro sxb you are as confused as teeri who though wiilwaal controlled the north or other tribes :lol: .
Khalaas wax dambe kugu qabsanmaayo
:lol: :lol: :lol: :oops: La iskuma wareeriyo dadkaan
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ina aadan, didn't you see your cousin arawello claim that? maybe she needs your education not raaga ka-weyn.


Arawello's - claim "his kingdom extended from Jigjigo to Saylac." :lol: :lol:


Teeri's claim - "Will Waal was not just bartire ugas, he was the first to submit every somali tribe/clan including his Ogaden and absame cousins and united the somalis under one flag and one king/ugas whether he was idoor or harti or haweeye etc. " :lol:


Inadaan go and address your misguided cousins before you think you know anything about taarikh. :arrow:
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abdalla11, why am i not surprised the mj cheerleader is in here. :lol:
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Somali-Star wrote:teeri,

abaayo, first-of-all, i'll allow your emotional outburst, taking it for granted as part of your womanly nature. second-of-all, after reading one of your posts in this thread, i take back for wholly linking you with the hypocrites. for it seems that you're not entirely lost:
Teeri wrote:we need more men like him who are willing to spill enemy kuffar blood to make sure his children and grandchildren enjoy the lands they live in peacfully and prosper economically, inshallah something Sheikh Ibrahim is in the mist of doing now!! :clap:
i applaud on this cause it shows signs of strong emaan. hatred for the kuffar, the first for condition of tawheed, which is a rare thing among the so-called muslims of today, and love for the most sincere of allah's slaves, the mujahideen (like sh ibraheem), which is even more rare.

but i warn you too - because, on the other hand, you also shows signs of shirk, in your extreme devotion and loyalty to your clan. straighten out this contradiction of yours - mixing of tawheed and shirk - because shirk and tawheed can never co-exist, as tawheed requires undivided belief.
Even though this is a waste of time my dear Somali-star, take some heed from this as its wrong to call people munafiks, kuffaar etc.

your probably one who thinks of himself as a salaafist, your probably a young man who recently ''discovered'' the way of the salahul salafiya, boy u hav plenty to learn, you think you have discovered something, but ibn taymia or sheikh albani or even sheikh ibn abdulwahab would surely be disappointed with the way you labal muslims with such titles as kuffaar, munafik etc.

your probabaly also one who says ''don't rebel against thy leaders'' it is such people like you that the allow in Saudi, haram to take place every day under their leadership, thanks to people like you who detest criticism on muslim leaders, fractional reserve banking is allowed to take place on bank branchs outside the haraamain in makkah and several hundred yeards away from the burial place of our beloved Prophet because according to people like u who belive in a fake modern version of salaafiya interpreted so fallasly that ibn taymia would spit on your shoes if he was here always claim: '' these muslim leaders are being forced by the americans''

do you know when palasetine was liberated from kuffar hands and into muslim hands? salahudine Aayobi's father wasnt born when the Normans invaded the land in 1099, he being born around 1137, liberated the land in 1187-93, your telling us that Ogaden liberation focus and liberating our selfs from kuffar hands is unislamic? what do you really know about islam Somali-Star? you have read a few hadith books, probably started growing your beard and found out that shortening your trousers below the ankle is undesireable and all the sudden you have the right to make a fatwa that we who have been fighting for Ogaden reliberation probably since your great grandad was born are doing kuffr??? your the type of man who will go to a begger in his limo and ask him why he isnt a multi-millionaire ambitous guy who has earned his keep due to his hard work in life like him, you need to be in the shoes of muslims of those like chechniya, ogadeniya, palastine, northen burma, east turkstan-western china and see their suffering every single day where they are raped, starved, imprisoned, their religion stripped generation after generation and forced to accept another man's language and culture and then perhaps you will understand the meaning of self determination. this is Jihad, chechniya is jihad, east turkstan whigar muslims have been fighting since the 1750s when the quinq chinese invaded them and has continued, ogadens since the british came in the late 1890s he has but us into habashi hands and supported them just the way he has supported the jews to massacre the arab muslims since 1915, the chechniyans since 1870s,

types of Jihad: Jihad has many forms:

Jihad of the heart/soul (jihad bin nafs/qalb)
Jihad by the tongue (jihad bil lisan)
Jihad by the pen/knowledge (jihad bil qalam/ilm)
Jihad by the hand (jihad bil yad)
Jihad by the sword (jihad bis saif)

“Jihad is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may
be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a
thing which is bad for you. Allah knows but you do not know.”
{Quran, Surah 2: Al-Baqarah, Verse 216; Mohsin Translation}

the one that concerns you the most, that has lead you to call us kuffars, jahad by the sword:

“And fight in the Way of Allah those who fight you, but transgress
not the limits. Truly, Allah likes not the transgressors.
Quran, Surah 2: Al-Baqarah, Verse 190; Mohsin Translation}

There are only two situations were Jihad by the sword is allowed to be

undertaken.

1) For self-defence. When someone attacks you or when your
nation has been attacked. Engaging into combat due to self defence.

2) Fighting against evil and unjust. It is also a sin if a Muslim
sees unjust been done, capable of stopping it, yet not doing
anything about it. This can include war on drug, war on child
labour as well as war on terror!
The American administration today seems to be launching a global war
on terror, but are they the first to launch the war on terror?
The Muslims already announced the war on terror fourteen centuries ago,
under the name of Jihad bis saif!
There are many rules and limitations when engaging in combat under the
title of Jihad. For example, civilians are not to be harmed; trees are not to
be cut down; asylum should be granted to surrendering enemy soldiers;

We seem to have forgoten as it has been running for so long that a few muslim nations are under severe occubation since the ottoman muslim empire failed that protectied muslims, places like ogadeniya/chechniya, east turkstan have alsomost been forgotten about except for those that concerns them i.e. those from those regions who had their forfathers born and raised in the region and lived as muslims for centuries as unfornately the muslim world has become fractured and and became tribalistic/nationalistic as saudi supplies oil to israel whilst their brothers are being killed and starved every single day whilst we sit in our air conditioned rooms and tacking into your chicken wings which is probably not halal as they mostly use '' stuning'' anyways in the west! in ogadeniya, which ironically the british named the region as everytime they asked who is fighting them they heard ''the ogaden'' as we didnt not catacorically nvite any kuffar in somali lands unlike many tribes/clans, are not only fighting kuffar but also so called muslim brothers such as idoors and majertains who work with the kuffar just the way egypt and saudi work with the jews, so give us a break when you hear that the ogaden region is a place where former rulers of this land are fighting to get back their glory, we are the once being tested the most as unlike our somali brothers , we are not killing fellow muslims but fighting with a kuffar who is bent on wiping the religion of our children and grandchildren as he has laid plans for 100 years ahead of u to do this, he thinks long term, dont forget.

if the habishi rulers were muslims, first we would not be in this situation as we would accept muslims ruling us, but what the average joe fails to understand is something men of old like salahudin ayobi, mohamed alfatih, salaimain the turkish sultan, sayed mohamed, abdurahman mursal have understood: the beaurcracy and organsaition they leave behind you once you accept their rule is what makes u and your children weak muslim, then kuffars in the long run. muslim men of old like sayed mohamed understood kuffar colonial institutions and idiologies such as fractional reserving, fiat currency, LiBOR rates, Bond markets, so called democracy legistlated with men made constitutions, inflationry weaponary, Swaps, illiquid ratios,everyday weapons, specially economic weapons used that is desgined to drag you in to maximum haram every single day, its also a domino effect where everyone becomes responsble. so again, give us a break for protecting ourselfs from such harams as we can only avoid them when we are independent and protect and safe guard our religion and our childrens religion, becauseu our forefathers protected ours when they had the ability, we must do for our own.

do you know which muslim nation has the highest rate of homosexuality? Turkey! yes the former seat of the ottoman empire, thanks to man like Atta Turk who brough in ''young turk idiology'' he introdcued the wourld's first athiest state too and band hijab before stalin band religion in the soviet union. wonder where afghan muslims, some of the strongest people on the diin, like the majority bashtun tribe, would be today if they didn't defeat the british in 1879, 1841, 1987 and the russians when they were both an empire and a communist states?, they would be like the pakistanis ruled for 500 years by the british, portugies, dutch, french and even the swedish and danish carved up pieces of the indian sub-continent before the british defeated all europeans and officially became the only power in 1857. as a result the indian subcontinent has the most wiered so called muslim religious sects, it was british policy to create new religions and stray people as only the muslims were fighting back colonisation whilst the Sighs and hindus slept. this why you have the britished financed hamdi, ismaili, the Ahmadiiya/gadiani, the Dawoodi Bohra, Deobandi, the baraveri etc who all claim true muslim origin.

there are 9 million peoplel in ogadeniya, we are the majority, over 8 million, its our duty to take the responsibility of the peoples defence, other muslims come and go to their neighbourly lands like idoors and hartis etc, we have the determination and the numbers to get it back, and there are many non ogadens in the ONLF, dont let people lie to you and paint this as some only ogaden led initiative, we have absames, kumaads, leelkase, idoors belive it or not, all the minorities in the game and the bone of contention; the name, the name was NOT chosen by us, it will be changed once freed from the kuffar bit it still doesnt changed the fact this this land was always held and expanded under us and absame blood whether it was will waal, farah will waal, raage ugas, nuur cubudiye, sayed mohamed who kicked out the british and the habishis temporarily. it is absame land, absame majority, you dont see us claiming or wanting to live in puntland or ''somaliland'' as our own, why should we be ashamed to claim ownership of the land our forefathers spilled blood for agains kuffars for centuries. islam allows the owners of the land/ the majority to lead that land. as Abu baker (raw) declared after the prohet died '' quraish is majorty of this land, i.e. makkah, let the leader chosen be quraish'' and the ansars such as the banu tamimi agreed that a quraish should be the next leader. we dont have to be ashamed of claiming ownership/rulership of our own land, i spilled blood for it for centuries to protect it, name one idoor or other darood other than absame who fought against the habashis to protect my land and people for the ast few centuries?, not one idoors or tanade or dulbahant! and Omar ibn kitaab always placed leadership on muslim who owned the land wether it was yemen/ islamiced iran, egypt, bahrain etc.

hate me or support me or work with the kuffar against me or bring in new modernistic so caleld islamic idiologies, i have every right for self determination, i will fight for another century to come, ottomans fought off russia for 400 years come eid or come chrismas day, the muslims fought 13 crusades that spand 350 years, i am being tested and my day will come just before it came before when i was the muslim self determinator of my land and way of life. bUT BY Allah i will not sit and accept my diin to be eroded and by granchildren to be turned into weak muslim/kuffars who say '' our forefathers practiced something called islam'' and will not stand infront of Allah and be asked '''why didnt ye do anything against thy folks when they were being attacked/raped/ their religion stripped out, any action was better than sitting and eating khat and criticising ibn Teer.'' (hypothetically, no euphamism intended)

"And surely We shall try you with something of fear and hunger, and loss of wealth and lives and fruits; but give glad tidings to the steadfast." 2:155

"Strive (jahidu) against the disbelievers with your hands and tongues." Sahih Ibn Hibban #4708

My war is old and almost forgoten about its basic reason just like east turkstan, chechniya, palastine etc but we do not forget whilst the rest chew khat and watch pop idol, remmebr it was they ( brtiish, habash) who declared war on me first after i refused their request to submit to their kuffar ways of life ;

"To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to defend themselves), because they are wronged - and verily, Allah is Most Powerful to give them victory - (they are) those who have been expelled from their homes in defiance of right - (for no cause) except that they say, 'Our Lord is Allah'.... " 22:39-40

i refused to submit to the kuffar british not just in Ogadeniya, but in NFD and Jubbland and foght him when the harti and marehan were on his side,

"And why should you not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)? Men, women, and children, whose cry is: 'Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from You, one who will protect; and raise for us from You, one who will help'." 4:75

Do they not know that i was like their back bone where i defended them from pagan and christian domination for centuries, with out me surely they would have become something other than muslims ages ago, and now they have the guts to hand me over to the habash, indeed Allah knows i am capable of passing this test hence why it was given to me! its in their benefit to make peace with me now as i surely return!

"And those who, when an oppressive wrong is inflicted on them, (are not cowed but) fight back." 42:39

this is as Jihad as it can get Somali-star, stop ordaining me a kuffar! your emotional outburst will get you into deep trouble, Fear Allah boy!!
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Markii lagaa gar helo dadkale ku xag-xago

ama sidii raga lagu yiqiinay qiro inaadan wax aqoona lahayn wax aad ka soo baratay X.Playa mooye
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ina aadan wrote:War saylac iyo barbara waxaa haystay turki oo u talinjiray e nin somali ah muuna u talin

e tarikh aan jirin ha nagu kor samaysanina
Ina Aadan is right, check the history books boys, they say after Nuuridine, Ahmed Gurey's nephew ( both were Bartire), agreed and signed the treaty with the defeated Habashis after ahmed gurey died in the battle of 1542, the habashis were also forced to give todays eriteria including djibouti and parts of extreme western somaliland such as seylac to the ottomans as they didnt want kuffars such as the portugies using a non muslim ports such as habashis ports in the area as the portugies bombing of jeddah in 1517 worried the ottomans, the biggest factor that lead Sultan Selim, sulaiman the magneficents father, to invade and bring muslim countries such as yemen., egytpt, sudan, libia, algeria, emriates, iraw, sham etc that surrounded makkah and medina under their control, they left the somalis to rule their own land but it was also the ottomans who send janasiers, the worlds first professional soldiers and the most sophisticated guns to train somali soldiers under ahmed gurey. eriteria was sold to the italians and the french in the 1893 by the ottomans who badly needed money to fight russian aggressions in her european colonies. on a side note, she also rented out Cyprice to the british, but he refused to give it back to them as they were on germanys side, so they simply reinvaded in 1967. :lol:.
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