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BlackVelvet wrote:Thing is I didn't even think of it as "seeing" him, on my page we were just hanging out, obviously he had other ideas, that's why I was going to punch him. I don't have intimacy issues, I just think that intimacy, especially physical intimacy should be reserved for your inner most circle of people. I even gave up on hugging guys or girls for that matter, why do we need to be touching each other at all, what's wrong with using words or waving?
Let me give you another perspective if i may. I dont think the reason why you wanted to punch him is because he had asked if he can kiss you. i think you wanted to punch the dude because he violated a universal rule about such matters: he asked your permission to kiss you; he didn't take the lead and wasn't man enough to simply look into your eyes and ''just'' kiss you spontaniously. the number one turn off for women is a man who ''asks'' for permission, they want a guy who is decisive and takes what he wants with confidence. a girl would put up with you if you look like a moneky, but the day you ask for permissions is the day she notices that you have no 'b*lls and thus would rather spend time in mars on her own.

besides, you propably thought to your self; if he is asking me this, what else would he ask my permission for.?
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True ... Who asks?
Can I kiss you?
LMFAO :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Making out is just kissing? I thought it was something more dramatic than that. :lol:

BV: You sure do have intimacy problem I think, you sound angry with men folk, why so? :lol:
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If he kisssed me without asking, I would have definitely punched him. The only reason I didn't is because my teachers pushed the idea that 'no question is a stupid question' so deep into my head. He would have been floored otherwise, who just kisses someone without their permission?


ms.naliaa wrote:
So you were 'hanging out' with a guy who thought you guys were dating or some form of a relationship that was heading somewhere??
You guys never cared to have the conversation "what is this?"
poor guy....he is probably still confused about spending an entire year talking to a girl who wanted to punch him :|

I still think you have intimacy issues. Im sticking to it
We did have that conversation, but I said it wasn't going there, clearly he didn't think I was a woman of my word. It taught me a lesson though, unrelated men and women can't just hang out platonically. But I don't have intimacy issues, I'm just selective with who I am intimate with.




LordD I am not angry with men, I just believe that most men, when they get into your personal space, are hard wired to be scum, my brothers told me so so I am inclined to believe them. No hard feelings, just accepting the truth. As colleagues and school mates you lot are alright.
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ms.naliaa wrote:

Ever met a dude that you thought was really nice.....but realized that all he talked about was mundane everyday things...and you soon found urself really bored...and ignoring his calls...and when you did pick up...found an excuse to stop talking....
But he is sooo nice that you dont wanna hurt him but you need to tell him "this aint gunna go no where"
Hunno, in london, most girls complain of the nice guy syndrom. I was always fascinated at my female freinds who complain of this trate of ''nice'' guy.

in my opinion this is my defination of a nice guy: a guy who bends over backwards for a girl he just met; he takes her to expensive restaurants, he spends huge amounts on dates, he talks about topics he thinks will impress her ( if he talks at all), he is afraid of disagreeing with her or upsetting her in a conversation, he doesnt say anything when she takes the piss i.e. she comes late to a date, she doesnt call him back when she promised to call him back and hence he doesnt call her out on her lies and he doesnt say anything when she ''tests'' him ( belive me you boys will always be tested).

so the simply root/conclusion to why girls hate nice guys is this simple premis in my opinion: when a guy does all the above i have mentioned like taking her to really expensive dates or he never calls her out when she is consistently late for their dates ( this is disrespect) is that she starts seeing the guy as a FAKE.

why? simple, if his friend was always late for their meeting, he would say something, he would say to the friend that he is tired of the constant lateness and thus is disrespectful.

if he went out with a friend, he would not take that friend to the most expensive restaurant to impress that friend. he would probably take the friend to a cheap location where they can feel comfortable and talk, but because he is trying to impress the girl, and is thus not comfortable taking her to a cheap location like a coffee shop to chill, she senses and reads the FAKENESS in his actions.

this also goes the same when he is talking to a girl he just met and is thus labbled fake for this simple reason: he wants to impress her and thus doesn't say anything risky or doesn't even disagree with her and doesnt voice his own opinions. YET, this very boy would disgree, joke and banter with a friend if he was conversing with them over the fone. thus the girl reads it as fake, but because she is a girl and doesnt want to offend, she uses the euphamism ''boring'' or ''too nice''

lesson learned: guys need to be consistent and don't impress her, as she will read that as being fake and incongruent; AKA, lacks confidence and needs to mask it with ''niceness''. have a backbone for God's sake, if she is late, tell she is being disrespectful. call her out

ps: the more attractive and experienced the girl is, the easier she will place these ''nice'' trates in this category. becaseu she has met many of these types.

for girls: sometimes you need to help the guy out , specially if he is inexperienced; do this simpl thing: say in a jokey way
'' warya, this convo is so boring and awkward'' ''are you scared of me?'' , i promise you he will relax his guard and would stop worrying about what to say next to make the convo ''entertaining'', but one must laugh when doing this to not come across as rude/jerk. works for the boys too. :lol: :lol:

just my opinions.
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BlackVelvet wrote: We did have that conversation, but I said it wasn't going there, clearly he didn't think I was a woman of my word. It taught me a lesson though, unrelated men and women can't just hang out platonically. But I don't have intimacy issues, I'm just selective with who I am intimate with.

I guess you learned your lesson this time around....no poin in crying over spilt milk.
You're not intimate with anyone BV..and you know thats true.






Terri:
Your definition of a nice guy and my definition are different.
I wouldnt date a guy who doesnt have a backbone....its simply not manly
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teeri waa sigatay :lol:

Reading shit like that makes me hate relationship topics. WHO THE F.UCK CARES. These so called guys who aren't nice aren't really shit anyways, they don't end up in life anywhere better than the "nice" guy. Seriously, the best advice for men, is to be men. What is a man, having principles, having goals, can't be turned away from his goals, kind to women, kind to weak, and kind to people. And honestly, you can't always tell that about a person from going on "dates", other than his a good dater. A nice guy doesn't need to ask to kiss her, because shes already his wife, a "nice" guy doesn't need to show her he has balls because she see's him everyday, a "nice" guy doesn't need worry whether or not his passing her "tests" because his already passed the test, and a "nice" guy doesn't need to worry about if shes coming late because they're coming from the house together as Man and wife.

If you try to look for these things through dating, there is a rare chance you will come up on the right person. All you will know is that he is a good dater for sure. And that just shows his had a lot of bad relationships.
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People need to understand that were inheriting this "dating culture" from a society that has over 50% divorce rate. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Does it take an intelligent person to see something is wrong with this picture. :lol: :lol: :lol:



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Po true :|
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Perfect_Order wrote:People need to understand that were inheriting this "dating culture" from a society that has over 50% divorce rate. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Does it take an intelligent person to see something is wrong with this picture. :lol: :lol: :lol:



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Perfect Order, you have some good points, i think the sub message of ur words are: man and wife should be together in halal way, hence when you say '' he aint worried if she is late becaseu they go out from the same house''

but i was refering to when they are ''dating'' shukansi phase, most girls moan about nice guys,
and you cant just say to him good luck, help the brothers out if ur older and more experienced.

but yes, this western culture with high divorrce rates has affected us, and i also blame feminism to why most guys, specially caadan friends are so ''nice'', but to be honest, most somali dudes i know are mashiidiya :lol: :lol:
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Yeah that is what I'm trying to say.

Truth be told, a guy who is going places, doesn't have time to be constantly going on dates with her, talking to her on the phone hours, and trying to fulfill her every desire and need to keep her. This myth about you need to be a "jerk" must of been propagated by some sad individuals, you need to be occupied and focused on improving your condition. And then she will have to take you serious, because you sure aint there to waste your time, you get me. And you can still be yourself, nice, considered, well mannered and polite. Guys should worry about being Men. It's Character that all people desire in other people whether in other men or women. And that's the success to life.
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Perfect_Order wrote:teeri waa sigatay :lol:

Reading shit like that makes me hate relationship topics. WHO THE F.UCK CARES. These so called guys who aren't nice aren't really shit anyways, they don't end up in life anywhere better than the "nice" guy. Seriously, the best advice for men, is to be men. What is a man, having principles, having goals, can't be turned away from his goals, kind to women, kind to weak, and kind to people. And honestly, you can't always tell that about a person from going on "dates", other than his a good dater. A nice guy doesn't need to ask to kiss her, because shes already his wife, a "nice" guy doesn't need to show her he has balls because she see's him everyday, a "nice" guy doesn't need worry whether or not his passing her "tests" because his already passed the test, and a "nice" guy doesn't need to worry about if shes coming late because they're coming from the house together as Man and wife.

If you try to look for these things through dating, there is a rare chance you will come up on the right person. All you will know is that he is a good dater for sure. And that just shows his had a lot of bad relationships.

co-sign. :up: :up:
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Perfect_Order wrote:teeri waa sigatay :lol:

Reading shit like that makes me hate relationship topics. WHO THE F.UCK CARES. These so called guys who aren't nice aren't really shit anyways, they don't end up in life anywhere better than the "nice" guy. Seriously, the best advice for men, is to be men. What is a man, having principles, having goals, can't be turned away from his goals, kind to women, kind to weak, and kind to people. And honestly, you can't always tell that about a person from going on "dates", other than his a good dater. A nice guy doesn't need to ask to kiss her, because shes already his wife, a "nice" guy doesn't need to show her he has balls because she see's him everyday, a "nice" guy doesn't need worry whether or not his passing her "tests" because his already passed the test, and a "nice" guy doesn't need to worry about if shes coming late because they're coming from the house together as Man and wife.

If you try to look for these things through dating, there is a rare chance you will come up on the right person. All you will know is that he is a good dater for sure. And that just shows his had a lot of bad relationships.


Just want to point out that being married doesnt give you a man the stamp of being a 'man'.
There are many stupid married men, theres also many married men who have no backbones or iota of loyalty.
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Perfect_Order wrote:Yeah that is what I'm trying to say.

Truth be told, a guy who is going places, doesn't have time to be constantly going on dates with her, talking to her on the phone hours, and trying to fulfill her every desire and need to keep her. This myth about you need to be a "jerk" must of been propagated by some sad individuals, you need to be occupied and focused on improving your condition. And then she will have to take you serious, because you sure aint there to waste your time, you get me. And you can still be yourself, nice, considered, well mannered and polite. Guys should worry about being Men. It's Character that all people desire in other people whether in other men or women. And that's the success to life.
That just might be smartest and most grown up paragraph I've read from you PO.
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Perfect_Order 210% Right :up:

Ladie's, If You Want A Good Man, A Real Man.. Then You Need To Do Things The Old Skool Way.. No Dating And No Shukansi :up:
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