NSUM emerge with SSC

[Siciid85]

That is not the issue though. This is about pseudo intectual's & politicians based in qurbaha trying to daroodize the two said regions when infact it's shared regions. It's all good though our nomads are armed ciidi soo doonata wa la iska ceeliin.

[Babygirl-]

It's not shared.. and no one is asking you anything Kalshaale sidi loogu jabshaay SL ba Nugaal loogu jabin inshalaah..

[Siciid85]

It's not shared

Saciid you live in couple of vilages in Sool.

Ma Ana Walan mise Cadan ba laga hesaya.

[Babygirl-]

You own those parts and we have no say in them, just like you have no say in Dhulbahante lands..

[Siciid85]

You are derailing the topic. I have never claimed i have say in Dhulbahante lands in this topic. i was merely addressing the likes of blue and their ignorance.

You own those parts and we have no say in them.

That was the whole point i live in those parts of Sool & Sanaag. I own it, it's the land of my ancestors. Hence Sool & Sanaag are shared regions of varied tribes.

[Babygirl-]

Each tribe has borders it doesn't matter what state they cut thru stay in them. simple

[Siciid85]

In that case stick with "Dhulbahante lands" and stop parading around with "Sanaag & Sool" When infact there is many tribes who live there.

My people's side of Sanaag & Sool are content with Somaliland.

[Babygirl-]

SSC

[Siciid85]

Sool & Sanaag.

[gurey25]

Actually Gurey, your friends in Sland section can tell you I am in favor of self-determination for Hargeisa-Berbera-Burco people. If that self-determination is secession, so be it. However, never will I support you to usurp the right of people who never agreed to British rule or a British colony or neither now agree to separating from Somalia. Self-determination is either universal or it doesn't exist in the Republic of Somalia's clans and territories.

Voltage you are still denying that we live in our ancestral land.
Western Sanaag and Western Sool are isaaq....
its very clear what you think

[Blue_609]

sool sanag has no relation to SL since 1- ppl dont want to be part of it 2- SL did nothing for those regions they just claim it to maintain thei 1960 borders and perhaps have a solid case for their recognition.

Are you trying to deny my people's existence in those regions? well tough luck. We live there , have great influence and there is nothing you or your likes can do about it expect delusional talks in cyber.

isdaji why u pissed !
yeah some of your group may live there but what im tryin to say is who can determine the fate of those regions..is it your ppl or the majority ?

[gurey25]

so you want to keep all of sool and sanaag becuase you think you are the majority..??

Well we want to keep all of somaliland becuase we make up 67% of the total population...

majority rules right?

[Blue_609]

so you want to keep all of sool and sanaag becuase you think you are the majority..??

Well we want to keep all of somaliland becuase we make up 67% of the total population...

majority rules right?

from ur childish perspective i can say somalia can keep SL since 85% are somalis.

what i mean is u can only rule the region/province where u r majority.

[samadoon-waaxid]

We respect the self determination of the people but let me address the main problem here..

The biggest obstacle to peace is not the Isaaq clan, but everyone else..

1.) If you all were sincere about championing the right of the Dhulbahante you would accept demarcation of borders and the dhulbahante could get their own state in their own borders on the lands that they live in currently..

This cannot include land that you lost a century or 60 years ago, but only land that dhulbahante live on right now....

You live on your land , i live on my land... sounds fair doesnt it

unfortunatley most people are motivated by the desire to bring Isaaq down a peg, and for some its an attempt to get revenge for bringing down their holy regimes.
Others are motivated by xaasidnimo and pyre clan hatred...

This is what voltage is trying to veil here, trying to hide his dark clannish thought under Somaliweyn as usual..


Somaliland will be an independant state seperate from Xamar, we will never be under moqadishu rule...

If it costs us losing the borders of Colonial somaliland, and western sool and western sanaag are gone, then so be it..




But this idea will be rejected by everyone here, because their motivation is to attack and defeat isaaq and punish them for their insolence ,and its not about dhulbahante..

Do you want proof?

One phrase is the proof..

The hargiesa, burco, berbera triangle..

They ignore the fact that we live in sool and sanaag, and that sanaag is our ancestral land that all isaaq lived in for the first 200-300 years of thir existance and a large part of isaaq still do today...


When voltage mentions that the situation has changed and that a future somali government in moqadishu will fully support the SSC..
I hope that he is not imagening a millitary senario?

If he cared about his darood brothers war is the last thing that he should hope for, because in any conflict every single battle will be fought on darood land.
Our cities will remain unaffected, and it will be like an slahabaab, TFg battle soomewhere in the south....

I doubt that poeple are serious, but if they want i can explain why every somali entity versus somaliland is at a severe disadvantage strategically..
and its not that we are special, our armedf orces are as rubbish as everyone elses (riyales distasterous regime is responsible)...

this guy is something else,one minute he boasts like a bigot natzi about transgressing against somone else as a vehicle for ictiraaf and the next minute he will whine about a great "faqash" conspiracy trying to bring him down.do you even hear your self? plus what border demarcation r u talking about, isnt a peaceful withdrawal of ur militias and taking em bak to the tribal border is what we have been calling for in the past 3 years?
the issue is as simple as this,Dhulbahante uu tashaday and we offer settling this matter on a peaceful platform so everybody can co-exist peacefully and sing combaya.if not,then it will be only matter of time before an all out war erupts and hell break lose on any idoor in ssc,and we surely know how to win wars,kalshaale will be a small squabble compared to whats coming for sl,last time ina Taani thought he was fighting shabaab,ONLF and PL together.next time he will mumble somthing about seeing chinese troops on the battle ground i assure you.the only choice that hargeysa has is to make a choice while it has a choice.

[samadoon-waaxid]

In that case stick with "Dhulbahante lands" and stop parading around with "Sanaag & Sool" When infact there is many tribes who live there.

My people's side of Sanaag & Sool are content with Somaliland.

how hard is it to get this? ssc claims only dhulbahante territoriesonly .we dont claim ceel afweyne of sanaag or caynaba of sool.our bordrs are based on tribal ones and not regional.