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[abdalla11]

I didnt say MJ PM but a Puntland PM. Besides an anti-federalism PM leaving is a huge gain.

[Murax]

I didnt say MJ PM but a Puntland PM. Besides an anti-federalism PM leaving is a huge gain.

You know damn well by Puntland You mean MJ, kow


Second this has nothing to do with federalism or anti federalism. Bottom line is since AY left Puntland hasn't received funds from the TFG. Sharmake/AY and that whole "Puntland Accord" thing, shareef went back on his promise, along with that Dir MP (Ibbi). Sharmake and Shareef clashed then the X Box Boy resigned. After that Farmaajo came and Faroole saw it was the same thing Where Puntland wern't getting funds, so He went on that whole thing about the tfg must have elections. It turns out the tfg arn't having elections and now You wanna say He gained something? Again at most it was a sabatoge mission he didn't orchestrate to get credit for but was merely a 5th wheel. Even Sakiin who had more of a role I don't give credit to. With Farmaajo it is simple, He was a outspoken critic of UN institutions and Ethiopian interference (His book). The last straw was when He boycotted the Kenyan conference and even Kenya went against Him. It was His political platform that led to this, it has zero to do with the Melbourne taxiile, as much as You'd like it to

[Cumar-Labasuul]

Horta, I really question how commited reer puntland (MJ) are to somalia recovering from 2 decades of war. It seems to me a MJ president or PM is more important to them. Wouldn't it be more in their interests that somalia (mogadishu) becomes stable and then the country to move forward.

Wallahi me, who doesn't follow southern politics often, I was saddened by this news of farmaajo being forced to resign. He seemed like the only honest guy for the last 21 years and it seems the people felt the same way. Don't these old farts (shariifs both of them and other warlords) feel shame that their country is in limbo.

Insha'allah allah helps those in need -> fellow somali brothers/sisters

[abdalla11]

I didnt say MJ PM but a Puntland PM. Besides an anti-federalism PM leaving is a huge gain.

You know damn well by Puntland You mean MJ, kow


Second this has nothing to do with federalism or anti federalism. Bottom line is since AY left Puntland hasn't received funds from the TFG. Sharmake/AY and that whole "Puntland Accord" thing, shareef went back on his promise, along with that Dir MP (Ibbi). Sharmake and Shareef clashed then the X Box Boy resigned. After that Farmaajo came and Faroole saw it was the same thing Where Puntland wern't getting funds, so He went on that whole thing about the tfg must have elections. It turns out the tfg arn't having elections and now You wanna say He gained something? Again at most it was a sabatoge mission he didn't orchestrate to get credit for but was merely a 5th wheel. Even Sakiin who had more of a role I don't give credit to. With Farmaajo it is simple, He was a outspoken critic of UN institutions and Ethiopian interference (His book). The last straw was when He boycotted the Kenyan conference and even Kenya went against Him. It was His political platform that led to this, it has zero to do with the Melbourne taxiile, as much as You'd like it to

LOL So farmaajo who graduated at the age of 49 is a well versed man but a guy was a Bank manager in his thirties and graduated from 3 different universities is a mere taxi driver

Ninyahow, you're all over the place. It was Faroole who started the offensive, it was him who was picking on the weakest link. Lets see who becomes the next PM.

Farmaajo swallowed his pride with regards to Puntland several times and i can give you all the examples, but i'm sure you're aware of them. Don't pretend him as a stand up guy, while in fact he spend all his energy to give Donkey an extension when he could spend the same energy in giving his cabinet extension. Fcked up priorities.

[gemini_snake]

I didnt say MJ PM but a Puntland PM. Besides an anti-federalism PM leaving is a huge gain.

You know damn well by Puntland You mean MJ, kow

how are you gonna tell him what he does and does not mean?

Second this has nothing to do with federalism or anti federalism. Bottom line is since AY left Puntland hasn't received funds from the TFG.

and that had everything to do with federalism. a/y was pro federalism, sharif and co. are anti-federalism, hence the clash between sharif's government even when cumar was at the helm.

[gemini_snake]

Horta, I really question how commited reer puntland (MJ) are to somalia

PL is still apart of somalia, so obviously more committed than your ilk.

you say you don't follow southern politics, so why are you commenting on something you have no knowledge of? or could you not hold yourself back from saying something about mjs?

[union]

If MJ are apart of Somalia, they are nothing but a poisonous tumor that needs to be cut out.

[Cumar-Labasuul]

Horta, I really question how commited reer puntland (MJ) are to somalia

PL is still apart of somalia, so obviously more committed than your ilk.

Yes you're right you still are, but from one of your other comments it seems you rather care about PL receiving more money than somalia progressing. The only reason you are against farmaajo is that PL isn't getting 'support' financially. Tell me one positive thing PL has contributed to somalia (i.e. south somalia).
Furthermore, for the last 21 years SL hasn't been involved in southern politics, so they made their intentions clear from the go.

you say you don't follow southern politics, so why are you commenting on something you have no knowledge of? or could you not hold yourself back from saying something about mjs?

I only comment on something which I see as clear xaasidnimo.

[gemini_snake]

Horta, I really question how commited reer puntland (MJ) are to somalia

PL is still apart of somalia, so obviously more committed than your ilk.

Yes you're right you still are, but from one of your other comments it seems you rather care about PL receiving more money than somalia progressing. The only reason you are against farmaajo is that PL isn't getting 'support' financially. Tell me one positive thing PL has contributed to somalia (i.e. south somalia).
Furthermore, for the last 21 years SL hasn't been involved in southern politics, so they made their intentions clear from the go.

you say you don't follow southern politics, so why are you commenting on something you have no knowledge of? or could you not hold yourself back from saying something about mjs?

I only comment on something which I see as clear xaasidnimo.

how do you know it's xaasidnimo when you are not familiar with the issue itself? how can you have an opinion on something you have no knowledge of as you've just admitted yourself?

SL is not apart of Somalia so they are not represented by the tfg. PL is apart of somalia and is represented by the tfg on the world stage. if the tfg receives funds on behalf of somalia and that money does not make its way to every part of somalia and is instead kept in mogadishu or stolen, then PL has every right to speak on it. when the tfg leadership has made it clear that it is anti-federalism, then PL has every right to oppose the tfg especially when the tfg is violating it's own charter by doing so.

PL is not the governing body of somalia , so PL is not required to "contribute" to southern somalia. that's like asking what california has done for new york and florida lately. it is nonsensical question.

[union]

PL is not the governing body of somalia , so PL is not required to "contribute" to southern somalia. that's like asking what california has done for new york and florida lately. it is nonsensical question

You do realize that all states pay taxes to the American Federal Government which distributes it, right? Californian taxes may not reach New York because that state is independently wealthy, but they do pour into states like Mississippi and Alabama. Why don't you take your own advice and not comment on issues you are not familiar with, Australian girl.

Like Cumar-Labasuul eloquently pointed out, Puntland seems interested only in securing funds from the TFG and contributing little else. They even want to govern themselves without direction from TFG. The only nonsensical thing in this discussion is your weak defense of Puntland.

[gemini_snake]

^ you do realize that PL WAS giving money to the tfg at one point, right?


lol @ australian girl. nice try, but i was living in the states before i could even talk and i'm sure that was before your ass even knew were amerikkka was. now back to the topic..

[union]

When was Puntland giving money to TFG?


But anyway, the reason puntlanders are throwing little tantrums is because they want money from the TFG while maintaining total autonomy. That isn't going to happen sweetheart so let's not delude ourselves, ok?

[gemini_snake]

do i look like wikipedia? if you don't know what you're talking about, just hang up the keyboard and keep it moving. this is not a q&a.

[union]

Ohhhh, feisty one.

[whitehartlane]

the somali government has been seriously useless and was only collecting donations world wide ever since cabdulahi yusuf left..i was very sceptical about farmaajo's leadership because of his near zero experience in somali affairs in general, however he has made the tfg more legit and more ABLE and was the best thing to ever to hit the TFG...now puntland is a major politicly stable part of somalia, unlike other regions that are interested in somali affairs we are able to address issues that concern us {such as the money printing in sudan, the kenya expansion in the south, elections, international meetings,} if the dowlad is filling application forms world wide for financial aid in the name of somalia, we have the right to claim, if you are claiming on behalf of xamar is one thing but you do it on behalf of pirates, droughts in mudug, nugaal ,bari, sanaag bari, sool and cayn, internal refugees from the south in puntland} in such case we have the right and the the leaders and the muscles to claim our part from those stealing useless bunch of khaa'imiin...

however even though i am supportive of puntlands interest being met, such as the federal constitution that gives us the right to deal and negotiate with foreign nations and corporations i think we should support farmaajo on the simple basis that the man is achieving something on the ground and in the longterm somalia's interest suits puntland more then anything ells..puntlands beef is not with farmaajo, he is infact better suited to meet our interest then a mj, dhulbahante warsengeli or leelkase pm...