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FBISOMALIA wrote:if any sl child point a gun to anyone non isaaq next day we will karbash their capital hargisa with full ammo, they should be glad that pl didnt participant in kalshable war with SSC side , if that happen burco will be fall in one day without resistant and we will catch those alshabab terrorist and finish them for good

Khalid,

Gadabuursi were attacked in 1991 badly but you did not attack the Jebertis as badly. Why ? Was it because Habar Jeclo refused ? Was it not Siilanyo who opposed pacifying Sool and Sanaag ? Yet you guys had the energy to kill your fellow Dir brothers

abdi.ismail wrote:

FBISOMALIA wrote:if any sl child point a gun to anyone non isaaq next day we will karbash their capital hargisa with full ammo, they should be glad that pl didnt participant in kalshable war with SSC side , if that happen burco will be fall in one day without resistant and we will catch those alshabab terrorist and finish them for good

taleex was warm up to us let see what you can do sissy

Abdi wahab you do not know the SNM went as far as xingalool and beyond that Axmed mire and Col Libaahe Dream team why do you think the wasakhgalis are so bitter read their website http://www.allsanaag.com see if The SNM launched a full scale war against the dholbahante it would be bad today the Dholbahantes and the rest of the Somalilanders could not coexist together, Siilaanyo was not the Chairman in 1991 and 1990 Tuur was it was ina kahin who stopped the Habaryunis Guuta Kobaad to go beyond Xudun and attack Laascanood, it also had something to do with the garaad of the dholbahante coming the SNM headqaurters and wanted peace. As for the Gadabuursi they were armed to but the SNM had to go to the awdal region all the way to the Djiboutian border than they surrendered their elders came to the SNM head quarters and wanted peace there is no need to do a massacre abdi Like you Guys did in galkacyo against the Majerteens, We are thinking about the future,,

fbi adeeer meesha halamash naagood looga ma bahna iyo hadal huuhaa ama maad so gashid dagaalka ama mad naga fadhisatid

AbdiWahab252 wrote:Khalid,

Saxib, lets not lie to each other. While I am a supporter of my Issaq brothers and sisters, there is no way you can take on the Jebertis, Hutus, Eelay, Gadabursi war machine. The sheer numbers of the invaders would overwhelm you.

If it were to happen, the only Issaq group I predict who would put up the biggest fight would be the Garxajis (aka the HG of the North). The Habar Awal would remain neutral until the ending moments of the war before siding with whatever winning side, as they are always "Survivors aka the Abgaal of the North". Habar Jeclo "Closet Jebertis" would follow the Jebertis who will sing sweet songs of "Walalaha Sanaag"

So a Konfur vs. Issaq war would be a clear disaster for Beesha Issaq. Remember it was the Hawiye who freed Hargeisa, Burco and Berbera from Siyaad Barre.

Again, don't be fooled into believing these two things:

1. Somaliland is supported by nonIssaq clans of the North, the NonIssaq ones are just playing along until they get a better option.

2. There is no KONFUUR clan besides Jebertis who would go to war with Issaq. I see no reason for a Hawiye to go to Waqooyi to fight Issaq.


The ones Beesha Issaq should keep an eye on are the Jebertis and Gadabursi. Both will be the first to strangle you guys when the Jeberti invaders attack.

Abdi why do you choose to ignore history, its not like it happened 500 years ago it was less than 30 years ago.
My answer to you is been there done that.

It might sound like arogance on our part , but we have a right to be proud.
We faced 3/4 of the Somali national army as a clan militia and we had them surrounded and besieged in Burco and Hargiesa from 1988 till 1990.
They depended entirely on air support for ammunition, fuel and food.
Even though they had heavy weapons and armour they refused to engage us out in the open.
They would only fight when the SNM attacked their lifeline the airfields .

now on top of this the Faqash regime armed the dhulbahante millita to the teeth and the gadabursi millitia as well.

We came out on top, the Somali army spent the rest of the war like the AMISOM were until recently , hiding in their bunkers and living with constant daily mortar or rocket attacks as they watched their food and water and ammo decline...

Lets add the numbers the SNA total by 1991 was on paper 75,000.
I dont know how much manpower was sent up north but it is a FACT that 3/4 of all armour and all artillary was sent north
if you add the clan millitias loyal to the regime you have quite a challenge.

against this you had an SNM force of less than 10,000 for most of the war they were no more than 5000
and to make thinks worse they did not have a blank cheque in regards to supplies like the SSDF had.
The SNM had to pay for all arms purchases from donations, this also included the cost of bribes from djibouti, to DireDawa and others costs.
Captured weapons helped alleviate this shortage, but the Somali National Army refused to come out and fight and opputunities for billiliqo were rare.

Now compare this with today our population has more than doubled, we do not have a modern well equipped and disciplined
army sitting on our 2 main cities.
There is no modern armed force in Somalia today , we are the closest there is and honestly we are nothing more than a glorified millitia.

Do you understand where we are coming from..
there is zero threat from somalia..
Even if you unite tommorow and gather forces, and Magically overcome your logistical problems and appear by teleportation on our borders overnight you would not survive for long, because just by defending our lines you will completly collapse.

but to be honest we will never be on the defensive, we will always attack.....



but again abdi..

the only way for somalia to be a threat to somaliland today is through
magic

I know this will probably be controversial but those who believe Isaaq cannot defend themselves are also undermining their supporter. They are also looking at a gift horse in the mouth. Since, it is the Isaaq who are always stopping supporters of war against the south. If Isaaq really wanted the destruction of the Koonfurians they would have let the SNM carry on killing and supported Tur when he wanted to take Somalia for the Isaaq.

I agree with Emperior and wish to add that all this talk of Isaaq is just to put a smoke screen over the failure that you have become. Shame on you and the shame you have brought us. I am today more embarrased then ever to be associated with the name Somalia. We can't work in the west or go anywhere without a look of inferiority against us. That is not he work of the Isaaq who are frantically trying to get the good name back.

I know this will probably be controversial but those who believe Isaaq cannot defend themselves are also undermining their supporter. They are also looking at a gift horse in the mouth. Since, it is the Isaaq who are always stopping supporters of war against the south. If Isaaq really wanted the destruction of the Koonfurians they would have let the SNM carry on killing and supported Tur when he wanted to take Somalia for the Isaaq.

I agree with Emperior and wish to add that all this talk of Isaaq is just to put a smoke screen over the failure that you have become. Shame on you and the shame you have brought us. I am today more embarrased then ever to be associated with the name Somalia. We can't work in the west or go anywhere without a look of inferiority against us. That is not he work of the Isaaq who are frantically trying to get the good name back.

War solves nothing. It will just destroy everything and Hargeisa will look just like Mogadishu.

bluelovelady wrote:War solves nothing. It will just destroy everything and Hargeisa will look just like Mogadishu.

Asaxaan baan idiinsaminay marka siidaa baad noola daqmaiseen. Shameless

If Somaliland dare attack any city past galkacyo I will conscript myself to fight them

grandpakhalif wrote:If Somaliland dare attack any city past galkacyo I will conscript myself to fight them

Yeah right. I haven't laughed so much in a while. Thanks

Stay out of politics, its not healthy for females.

grandpakhalif wrote:Stay out of politics, its not healthy for females.

Is that What you tell you're wives and daughter? No wonder they found themselves in this mess. Whilst the men are recruited or conscript instead of looking after their homes. They die while the women and children left widowed through no fault of their own. Why don't you men stay out of politics and do you're job by you're families. Peace

khalid ali wrote:Coeus what is so shocking boy somaliland has one enemy and that is somalia we know a big war is going to happen in the next decade and we want to become the winners this war will be more deadly then all the other wars why do you think 70 precent. Of somaliland budget goes to the military we could build hospitals or roads with that but we dont it goes to the army

acudibillah u perdicet war out of all good things and you think you enemy is somalia then i noticed you have sick mind goodluck with your state SL

khalid ali wrote:I agree with that even if somaliland get recognition somaliland biggest enemy is somalia never will their be peace between Somalian and somalia i predict a big big war in the future inshallah

strangely enough, i actual agree with you idoors. but on condition that darood territory is either returned or dhulbanates became the premiership and you lot the presidency since they are second in number to you. self rule is the mark of all noble men.

if you idoors became independent, there will probably be less incentive to support the Ethiopians. i admire the strength in all idoors joining forces together to be honest, i wish daroods were more like that, .

the more you are refused independence, the more hate there will be. besides, look at the economic potential of trading with Somalia, no need to translate, same language, same culture etc. the benefits could be enormous for both of us.

look at the likes of belgian and luxumberg, they seemed to have benefited their neighbors rather than harm them after independce, so did the soviet satelites to russia like ukrain and Belarus, uzbekistan. kazakstan, turkmenistan etc. but look at Chechnya, there has been constant war because one man doesn't want to be ruled by another. somalis should not see an independent somaliland a threat.