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seemeyer wrote:Like fuck he's Mareexaanqoraxeey wrote:Daanyerow wrote:Well said Abakar brother but just a word of advice, pls don't ever put Imaam Ahmed Gurey and dhhigyacab Afweyne in the same list.
ahmed gurey and siad barre are both marehan men who served somalia well
You......can't be serious?seemeyer wrote:khalid ali wrote:Axmed ibrahim al ghazi
Axmed guray xuseyn
Adan cabdille cismaan
Maxamad xaaji ibrahim cigaal
Suldaan timmacadeEmperor: Nuur Ibn Xuseen is the Sheikh al Balad of Herar soo maahaThere are two Ahmed Gurays The imam axmed iebrahein al ghazi And the Ahmed Guray Bin hussein the isaaq Sultan of the habarmagaadle
since Axmed Gurey ibn Xuseen was the Isaaq chief then his brother Nuur Ibn Xuseen married his wife, when he got killed in battle Axmed guray Ibn xussein should Not be confused with Axmed iebrahein al ghazi , in fatuh al habash explains The to individiuals as to separate characters
Hadj Yusuf AbdulRahman (editor), Kitab Rabi’a al-Qulub fi Dhikr Manaqib wa Fada’il Sayyidina as Sheikh Nur Hussein (“The Springtime of Hearts in Memory of the Virtues and Merits of Our Lord the Sheikh Nur Hussein”), Cairo, 1927
In this book Quoted Above Nur ibn Xussein Biography is explained The nur Ibn mujaheed the merehan claim is Actually the brother of the habarmagaadle Isaaq Chief And his name is Nur Bin Xussein he married Axmed guray Bin xussein His wife when he was killed in battle. No where in fatuh al habasha Mentions that Emir Nur Bin xussien marries the widow of The actual imam Axmed iebrahien al ghazi, The Arab author of fatuh al habasha is the one who made the error Calling the Habarmagaadle and grouping them In the same Category As the Merehan , the Merehan had one Chief His name was Hiirabo Goaita Thedorous, And not Nur Ibn xussein al mujaheed he was the brother of The Ishaq Habarmagadle chief
The one that's buried at the Eastern approach to the city
I have a source, you don't.khalid ali wrote:Seemeyar yes that's him fatuh al habash doesn't mention Nur By his Clan but clearly mentions him only by his Name Nur Ibn Hussein, Fatuh al habash does mention Axmed Guray Hussein the tribal Chief of the Habr magaadle Isaaq by His Clan
Based the source you posted is written by Dr. Richard Pankhurst a french man in the 18 century its not from the actual source Fatuh Al habash. How ever in fatuh there was another Nuur Mention also but they didn't mention him by his Clan either i asssumed the latter nuur was not an army chief.
It was a kacaan agent revising history.Based wrote:I have a source, you don't.khalid ali wrote:Seemeyar yes that's him fatuh al habash doesn't mention Nur By his Clan but clearly mentions him only by his Name Nur Ibn Hussein, Fatuh al habash does mention Axmed Guray Hussein the tribal Chief of the Habr magaadle Isaaq by His Clan
Based the source you posted is written by Dr. Richard Pankhurst a french man in the 18 century its not from the actual source Fatuh Al habash. How ever in fatuh there was another Nuur Mention also but they didn't mention him by his Clan either i asssumed the latter nuur was not an army chief.
Richard Pankhurst is a modern day scholar of Ethiopian studies, the source I showed was from Sebastian Harvel. I'm shocked you haven't claimed he was a kacaan agent revising history.
Can you back up your claim of Ahmed Gurey being Isaaq, Emperior?
No its from richard Pankhurst and the man lived more than 350 years later After the wars against the Abyssinians we can't take his work serious these were his ideas keep in mind the author writes what he wantsBased wrote:I have a source, you don't.khalid ali wrote:Seemeyar yes that's him fatuh al habash doesn't mention Nur By his Clan but clearly mentions him only by his Name Nur Ibn Hussein, Fatuh al habash does mention Axmed Guray Hussein the tribal Chief of the Habr magaadle Isaaq by His Clan
Based the source you posted is written by Dr. Richard Pankhurst a french man in the 18 century its not from the actual source Fatuh Al habash. How ever in fatuh there was another Nuur Mention also but they didn't mention him by his Clan either i asssumed the latter nuur was not an army chief.
Richard Pankhurst is a modern day scholar of Ethiopian studies, the source I showed was from Sebastian Harvel. I'm shocked you haven't claimed he was a kacaan agent revising history.
Can you back up your claim of Ahmed Gurey being Isaaq, Emperior?
Futah Al - Habasha - The 5th Jihaad
"Their Chieftains, however, stood firm: Mattan Bin Utman the Somali, brother-in-law of the Imam Ahmed, may the Most High God Have mercy upon him, fought a fine Jihaad. Holding firm with was chief of Habar maqdi Ahmed Girri; and Ali Madjira from the tribe of Mattan; and Hussain Musa bin 'Abd Allah Makida and Yusuf Latahia, from the tribe of Ahmed Girri. Their achievements this day truly are God's doing they returned to the side of the Imam Ahmad, may the Most High God have mercy upon him, and his presence fought a bloody fight."
CONQUEST OF ABYSSINIA
So the Imam attached them to the five-hundred who held the centre, saying to them, "hold your positions; don't budge, any one of you. 'The tribe of Ahmed Girri Husayn chief of habar magaadi(Habar Magaadle-Isaaq) were all horsemen, renowned as powerful riders. , The imam arranged his battle information, and each group of Muslims prayed the two-fold prostrations after two-fold prostrations, on account of the great things that had befallen them. The quranic teacher "Abd Allah, dismounted from his mule, took his shield and his sword and humbled himself.
Support for Ahmed
Thereupon the emir Husain bin abu-bakar al-Gaturi arose and said to the Imam Ahmed, 'This will never happen. If they want war, then we will assemble our armies from the people of Sim and from the Somali tribes: the tribe of Girri, the tribe of Habar Maqdi(Habar Magaadle Isaaq), the tribe of Harla, for our armies have been dispersed.How can we do as they wish? We shall not surrender the country to them.
The storyteller, may God have mercy upon him, says: When the emir Husain had said these words to the Imam there arose from among those present the emir "Ali" Urai Ahmed Din, Garaad Zaharbui Muhammed, Abd an-Nasr, Garaad Abad Ahmadus, Sabr Al Din, Zaharbui Utman, Urai Mahwi, his companion Din, Farasaham Satut, Urai i Nur bin Dar Ali , Warajar abun the ruler of zeylac - all of whom told the Imam Ahmed may the Most High God have mercy upon him, that they agreed with the opinion expressed by emir Hussain, So the Imam ahmed may the Most High God have mercy upon him, set out to Zarba, heading in their direction. They travelled for four days and came to the a country called "Ganasar" close to the country of Sultan. Then they travelled from Ganasar and came to a country called Wilqam which had an abundance of wat, and where all the Muslim[Converts] who had gone down from Abyssinia and the land of Tegre had settled. The imam Ahmed encamped there.
