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arabmtu wrote:

greenday wrote:What i mean is if you are a Muslim the rest is minor stuff so we cant say one sect is better than another.

So, it's a minor stuff if a Muslim states the Quran has been modified, an imam can be infallible, prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) wasn't the last prophet, etc?

Listen if someone says they are Muslim the rest is between them and Allah we can not know if what we say is any better than what they say till judgement day. Why dont you just leave it to Allah.

the word anakonda aint af soomaali. i used only for explaning what IS abeeso. anakonda as i said is a part of different sorts of ABEESOOYINKA.
abeeso= non poisnous big snakes
mass= poisnous snakes LIKE COBRA.

tusaale reptiles af soomaaliga waxaa lagu yiraahdaa XAMAARATO


BACK TO SHIICA TOPIC ma ka toobad keentay been abuurka??

greenday wrote:Listen if someone says they are Muslim the rest is between them and Allah we can not know if what we say is any better than what they say till judgement day. Why dont you just leave it to Allah.

Are you saying if a Muslim says Muhammad (pbuh) is the last prophet, another says he isn't--we can not know who is right or better?

DR-YALAXOOW wrote:abeeso= non poisnous big snakes

In another post, you said "xitaa kalmadan abeeso dad ayaa u isticmaala masaska Sunta leh."

arabmtu wrote:

greenday wrote:Listen if someone says they are Muslim the rest is between them and Allah we can not know if what we say is any better than what they say till judgement day. Why dont you just leave it to Allah.

Are you saying if a Muslim says Muhammad (pbuh) is the last prophet, another says he isn't--we can not know who is right or better?

"khaataman nabiyeen"... how can anyone reject that, and still claim to be Muslim? Every Muslim knows what this means.

Are you saying if a Muslim says Muhammad (pbuh) is the last prophet, another says he isn't--we can not know who is right or better?

All am saying its up to Allah not you and me.

"khaataman nabiyeen"... how can anyone reject that, and still claim to be Muslim? Every Muslim knows what this means.

Because thats not in of the rules to be a Muslim. In the Shahada it says Muhammed is his prophet not his last prophet.

Alphanumeric wrote:"khaataman nabiyeen"... how can anyone reject that, and still claim to be Muslim? Every Muslim knows what this means.

There are other "Muslims." For instance, the Submitters believe Rashad Khalifa was the last nabi. The Ahmadiyya (aka Qadiani) believe Mirza Ghulam to be the last nabi. Offshoot Shia sects have similar beliefs.

greenday wrote:

Are you saying if a Muslim says Muhammad (pbuh) is the last prophet, another says he isn't--we can not know who is right or better?

All am saying its up to Allah not you and me.

"khaataman nabiyeen"... how can anyone reject that, and still claim to be Muslim? Every Muslim knows what this means.

Because thats not in of the rules to be a Muslim. In the Shahada it says Muhammed is his prophet not his last prophet.

Acubillahi Nina sheitani rajim, greenday just stop! You have no idea what your talking about, why talk about matters of diin if you don't have the knowledge? It's well known that claiming that Rasullulah (SAW) is not the last messenger is kufr hence why the ahmadiyya are kuffar.

There's 2 types of extremes in this case, those who make takfiir on every1 and those like you who refuse to do so even when it is clear cut.

Colonel dude i just answered his question You are the people who are calling kafir qof shahadada aqbalay ee idaa.

greenday wrote:Because thats not in of the rules to be a Muslim. In the Shahada it says Muhammed is his prophet not his last prophet.

SUBHANALLAH!greenday maxaad ku hadleysaa

seemeyer wrote:

greenday wrote:Because thats not in of the rules to be a Muslim. In the Shahada it says Muhammed is his prophet not his last prophet.

SUBHANALLAH!greenday maxaad ku hadleysaa

Beentey miyaa marka

The Submitters have their own Quran (the Quran minus a number of ayats) with a different tafsir in which Rashad Khalifa proves he's the last nabi. It can be found on Amazon:

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Not in the paticular context,yacni what the shahaada says
Laakiin the Quran says

O people! Muhammad has no sons among ye men, but verily, he is the Apostle of God and the last in the line of Prophets. And God is Aware of everything.

Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things.
(The Holy Quran, Al-Ahzab 33:40)

That's the two different translations of this paticular ayah
And both translations state clearly Mohamed (pbuh) was the last prophet

greenday wrote:Colonel dude i just answered his question You are the people who are calling kafir qof shahadada aqbalay ee idaa.

Greenday neither you or I have enough knowledge to speak on such matters however you're taking it to the extreme, how can you claim that saying Rasullulah (SAW) is not the last messenger does not make you a kafir? Where is your evidence for that? You speak without knowledge, in another thread you said that murder is a sin that can't be forgiven Where's your proof for that? Only shirk and disbelief is not forgiven. I'm trying to make a point here, don't speak about matters of diin when you clearly have limited knowledge!

greenday wrote:Colonel dude i just answered his question You are the people who are calling kafir qof shahadada aqbalay ee idaa.

If someone rejects what's in the Qur'an, are they Muslim?

Alphanumeric wrote:

greenday wrote:Colonel dude i just answered his question You are the people who are calling kafir qof shahadada aqbalay ee idaa.

If someone rejects what's in the Qur'an, are they Muslim?

What do you think A1