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Re: S/land court approves Marriage of Midgan boy&Gadabursi g

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 7:34 pm
by Based
So is FGM.

Re: S/land court approves Marriage of Midgan boy&Gadabursi g

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 7:36 pm
by ZubeirAwal
It's one of those backward customs every society has, minorities are always neglected, in this case its the midgans, tribes like gadabursi, isaaq don't want to risk years of ancestry being wasted into a midgan but they forgot that in the aakhira your qabil will mean nothing.

Re: S/land court approves Marriage of Midgan boy&Gadabursi g

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 7:36 pm
by Colonel
The_Emperior5 wrote:I dont know its a Somali Culture
^ This guy was apparently raised up in the West :lol:

Re: S/land court approves Marriage of Midgan boy&Gadabursi g

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 7:39 pm
by Somaliman50
like colonel said, the madhibaan boy should not have gone behind the back of the girls father. if her father rejected him out of qabiil, he should realise they werent exactly an ideal family to marry into in the first place. guurku waa khiyaar cidna laguma siro.

Re: S/land court approves Marriage of Midgan boy&Gadabursi g

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 7:39 pm
by quark
Their is nothing called a midgaan, its all primitive BS which i hope the younger somalis will reject it. How the fuck are they any different from any somali clan?

Re: S/land court approves Marriage of Midgan boy&Gadabursi g

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 7:40 pm
by The_Emperior5
True but all the Major Somali tribes do not Marry from these people these are things we Somalida cannot explain.
But i think some of the fault also lies with in the Madhibaan Community they don't respect themselves if they were more confident, Somalis would respect them ,the tuni and bajun and bravanese are the smallest somali Tribes but yet not considered untouchables its because they earned their way up with self respect. This is an ancient custom the tumals the yibros the Muse dheriyo and all the other madhibaan communities do not marry from the adji.

Re: S/land court approves Marriage of Midgan boy&Gadabursi g

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 7:41 pm
by ZubeirAwal
quark wrote:Their is nothing called a midgaan, its all primitive BS which i hope the younger somalis will reject it. How the fuck are they any different from any somali clan?
ask tightrope.

Re: S/land court approves Marriage of Midgan boy&Gadabursi g

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 7:42 pm
by Based
It's most likely a pre-Islamic custom that was kept by the Somalis following their conversion to Islam and their adoption of Arab-like patriarchal clan system. It's not a coincidence that all of the clan patriarchs were somehow contemporaries.

Re: S/land court approves Marriage of Midgan boy&Gadabursi g

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 7:44 pm
by ZubeirAwal
Based wrote:It's most likely a pre-Islamic custom that was kept by the Somalis following their conversion to Islam and their adoption of Arab-like patriarchal clan system. It's not a coincidence that all of the clan patriarchs were somehow contemporaries.
Isaaqs would've been treated like Midgaan if they hadn't moved out of Maydh but they did and engaged in wars and conquered lands which they gained respect.

Midgaans however are like Irish?, Gypsies?

Re: S/land court approves Marriage of Midgan boy&Gadabursi g

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 7:46 pm
by The_Emperior5
abakar20 wrote:like colonel said, the madhibaan boy should not have gone behind the back of the girls father. if her father rejected him out of qabiil, he should realise they werent exactly an ideal family to marry into in the first place. guurku waa khiyaar cidna laguma siro.

He knew because of his tribal origin they would've rejected him any ways and i think he was badly in love with the girl so he married her behind the back and with out the blessing of her father, he knew they would never approved his marriage with her.

Re: S/land court approves Marriage of Midgan boy&Gadabursi g

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 7:47 pm
by Based
You and I aren't on the same wavelength bro.

I'm telling you Isaaq, Darood, Dir, Hawiye, etc. were all probably fictitious characters that local communities adopted with the advent of Islam. Many ethnic groups have ridiculous origin stories replete with mythic founders/ancestors, and I think the Somalis are no different.

Re: S/land court approves Marriage of Midgan boy&Gadabursi g

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 7:51 pm
by Somaliman50
The_Emperior5 wrote:
abakar20 wrote:like colonel said, the madhibaan boy should not have gone behind the back of the girls father. if her father rejected him out of qabiil, he should realise they werent exactly an ideal family to marry into in the first place. guurku waa khiyaar cidna laguma siro.

He knew because of his tribal origin they would've rejected him any ways and i think he was badly in love with the girl so he married her behind the back and with out the blessing of her father, he knew they would never approved his marriage with her.
whatever the case, that will not be a happy marriage sxb. one which has the parents blessing is always better. all this ''forbidden'' romance is overrated.

Re: S/land court approves Marriage of Midgan boy&Gadabursi g

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 7:52 pm
by ZubeirAwal
Based wrote:You and I aren't on the same wavelength bro.

I'm telling you Isaaq, Darood, Dir, Hawiye, etc. were all probably fictitious characters that local communities adopted with the advent of Islam. Many ethnic groups have ridiculous origin stories replete with mythic founders/ancestors, and I think the Somalis are no different.
Idk about you, but every single Isaaq subclan locates the tombs of their ancestor, even if they are as far as dhire dhaba, Isaaq is a not a ficitonal character, it isn't something to do with IQ but with facts, how are you going to explain the book written by his life recorder Muhammad Al Basri sealed in the historical library of damascus?

Re: S/land court approves Marriage of Midgan boy&Gadabursi g

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 7:58 pm
by The_Emperior5
Abuubarksubeer iskaa daa Based he not certain about his own ancestry,He does not know we take our ancestry very serious its almost religion for our people, because its you're identity who u are who ur people are what you're history is.


Abakar true but i can understand if one is deeply in love he will do desperate things

Re: S/land court approves Marriage of Midgan boy&Gadabursi g

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 8:00 pm
by gurey25
AbuukarSubeer wrote:
Based wrote:It's most likely a pre-Islamic custom that was kept by the Somalis following their conversion to Islam and their adoption of Arab-like patriarchal clan system. It's not a coincidence that all of the clan patriarchs were somehow contemporaries.
Isaaqs would've been treated like Midgaan if they hadn't moved out of Maydh but they did and engaged in wars and conquered lands which they gained respect.

Midgaans however are like Irish?, Gypsies?
its because they are nice people, good people suffer the most in this world.
If they grouped together, and started raiding other clans, and killing other successfully and capturing livestock and territory nobody would have any problem marrying from them,
there wont be any stigma at all.