This Jubbaland conference is a farce

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Ahmed Madoobe nor Ghandi or the others have been to anywhere besides Afmadoow and Kismaayo and I don't think they ca yet the Marehan guys there go easily from the tip of the Ethiopian border to the Indian Ocean as easily as breathing. Honestly Kenya is a temporary and powerful middle man now through the presence of their troops but everybody knows the Jubba Valley is the playground and sphere of influence of one clan: Marehan.

Under any situation only one clan has the power to lead Jubbaland with credibility from Kismaayo to Dollow.

What is this? Some sort of devine monarchy sent down from the heavens? The thing is jubbaland isnt gedo only just as it isnt lower+middle jubba only. So the idea of one group calling the shots isnt going to fly. Coalition and coexistence coupled with willingless to compromise when needed is what is needed. If you are interested in one clan dominated administration play with Gedo but if there is going to be a jubbaland such primitive mindsets will not work.

[guhad122]

Meta,
Leave Voltage alone; he is just a confused kid because for the past 15 years, he has been fed with propaganda that the former Mooryaan from Galagaduud(Indhacade and Hiiraale), would somehow be able to dominate the Jubaland politics. Now he is realizing the reality and he is really confused. If you really want to know the view of the Reer Gedo people, every single one of them is in Kismaayo including the Ugaas of the Beesha.

See what happens when your parents don't tell you the truth

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guhad What was that wiilwaal proverb regarding men and how to best convince them? Something like rag walaaloow waxaan ahayn ku kari waa meaning diplomacy is the answer to every conflict. Voltage needs to pick up couple books on poilitcs. It would be a great benefit to him.

[The`Republic]

Guhad-

You have a really nasty habit of remarking on my upbringing, family, and parentage. It is a sign of inan gumeednimo.

[guhad122]

Guhad-

You have a really nasty habit of remarking on my upbringing, family, and parentage. It is a sign of inan gumeednimo.

Voltage,
Ina-adeer maxaan dhimay? All I said was that you are not from Gedo and have no bearing on its issues. The time of JVA is long gone; let us move on.

If you really care about Gedo, you would support the legitimate governor of Gedo Halyeey Fareey:


Horta, what is his subclan?

[The`Republic]

What is this? Some sort of devine monarchy sent down from the heavens? The thing is jubbaland isnt gedo only just as it isnt lower+middle jubba only. So the idea of one group calling the shots isnt going to fly. Coalition and coexistence coupled with willingless to compromise when needed is what is needed. If you are interested in one clan dominated administration play with Gedo but if there is going to be a jubbaland such primitive mindsets will not work.

Bro did I say anything wrong? AwLibaax and these guys have been in Kismaayo, Dollow, Garbahaaray, Beled-Xaawo and Cabaas goes from Ceel-Waaq to Dhooblay to Kismaayo. Ahmed Madoobe nor Ghandi or any other them can go anywhere beyond Dhooblay and Af-Madoow and Kismaayo. Thie is the true. Teeda kale wasn't it Ghandi who recently in that Somali Channel interview you posted himself say the idea that Gedo is separate from this can come from someone who doesn't know the reality because reer Gedo arebpart of parcel in any atate to include Kismaayo and Jubba because they are inhabitants.

It is just the reality. Marehan camels today freely graze past Qooqani and Diif to Beerxaani to Kismaayo.

We all know the reality and the land has seen many stages but only one clan has stayed dominant through out that whole process. Kenya's time will fade and we will see who is still left standing.

I agree though...peace, partnership, and brotherhood should trump war and disagreement.

[The`Republic]

Guhad-

You have a really nasty habit of remarking on my upbringing, family, and parentage. It is a sign of inan gumeednimo.

Voltage,
Ina-adeer maxaan dhimay? All I said was that you are not from Gedo and have no bearing on its issues. The time of JVA is long gone; let us move on.

If you really care about Gedo, you would support the legitimate governor of Gedo Halyeey Fareey:

If I am not from Gedo and Kismaayo, who is?

Fareey is an atrocious imposter. He ran away when Shabaab came whiel his deputy Kalil retreated to the bush and fought back from the Ethiopian border to Garbahaaray, the regional capital.

He can't even come to Gedo and has no place in Gedo where he can stand and say he is governor.

[oxymoron]

Ahmed Madoobe nor Ghandi or the others have been to anywhere besides Afmadoow and Kismaayo and I don't think they ca yet the Marehan guys there go easily from the tip of the Ethiopian border to the Indian Ocean as easily as breathing. Honestly Kenya is a temporary and powerful middle man now through the presence of their troops but everybody knows the Jubba Valley is the playground and sphere of influence of one clan: Marehan.

Under any situation only one clan has the power to lead Jubbaland with credibility from Kismaayo to Dollow.

The Kenyans are no temporary force, and are here for the long haul. This is good for the region as it ensures stability and State building. The Kenyans have promise funding for the State as well as State Building. And may I mention the training and arming of a 10,000 Jubbaland Defense force. Sade was a temporary force in the Jubba Valley for a good decade with nothing to show for, now your time has collapsed. You have lost the key to the Jubbaland Valley which is Kismayo and the only way to get it back is by force which you do not have. End of story.

Soon the guys in Xamar will be null and void if they do not recognize the new State that has Puntland and Kenya full backing. If the new Jubbaland is not recognized within days or weeks of it's Formation, it will become a Political disaster for Hassan & Co. Cause if Puntland pulls it's Support for the Federal Government, and Jubbaland does the same, what legitimacy will the Federal Government have? And War is no option cause the West will overnight cut all Aid and pull the African Union troops out from Xamar. The Kenyans will fund their own troops and not move an inch from Kismayo.

Conclusion Beesha Sade iyo this whole Federal Government are in Check mate. If Sade wants a secure future they will happily take a second place in Jubbaland, and surrender any rights to the city of Kismayo. So when OGaden becomes President of Jubbaland and Marehan Vice President the speaker of Parliament will go to Gaaljecel. The Govern of Jubba hoose iyo Kismayo city Mayor will be Majeerteen. Airport will go to sheikhaal. Dhulbante the Seaport, and key Ministers will be divided equally.

Those are the terms agreed upon and you need to sign the dotted line or put your future at great political and Financial risk.

You have been warned, this ain't the glory days of the JVA.

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What is this? Some sort of devine monarchy sent down from the heavens? The thing is jubbaland isnt gedo only just as it isnt lower+middle jubba only. So the idea of one group calling the shots isnt going to fly. Coalition and coexistence coupled with willingless to compromise when needed is what is needed. If you are interested in one clan dominated administration play with Gedo but if there is going to be a jubbaland such primitive mindsets will not work.

Bro did I say anything wrong? AwLibaax and these guys have been in Kismaayo, Dollow, Garbahaaray, Beled-Xaawo and Cabaas goes from Ceel-Waaq to Dhooblay to Kismaayo. Ahmed Madoobe nor Ghandi or any other them can go anywhere beyond Dhooblay and Af-Madoow and Kismaayo. Thie is the true. Teeda kale wasn't it Ghandi who recently in that Somali Channel interview you posted himself say the idea that Gedo is separate from this can come from someone who doesn't know the reality because reer Gedo arebpart of parcel in any atate to include Kismaayo and Jubba because they are inhabitants.

It is just the reality. Marehan camels today freely graze past Qooqani and Diif to Beerxaani to Kismaayo.

We all know the reality and the land has seen many stages but only one clan has stayed dominant through out that whole process. Kenya's time will fade and we will see who is still left standing.

I agree though...peace, partnership, and brotherhood should trump war and disagreement.

You display the same mentality as hiiraale, e.g the selfish mentality of myself only which isnt a good thing. I am not sure you are familiar with the geography of lower jubba. Qooqaani and diif are located between Afmadoow and dhoobleey which are two cities that even mohamed zubayr alone dont want to share. The closest marehan settlement to that is buurdhuubo which isnt even on middle jubba. The only place marehan heavily settle is gedo so you can stop claiming any lands on the jubbas. Aad bayn isu naqanaa. If you are interested dhoobleey to afmadoow is almost exclusively mohamed zubayr. Middle jubba is a bulk of auliyahan and bartire. There are good numbers of makaahiil and bah garies as well.


You can promote for a peaceful partnership while at the same wanting to promote marehan-centrism while simultaneously discrediting everyone else.

[abdirisak22]

Jubbaland state which is built on justice and fair power sharing of all its different communities is great success for somalia particularly the Jubbalanders: saying that i would like to give the benefit of the doubt to my Afmadoow and Garowe brothers and sisters.
If the procedures of delegates do not change the way it is going now i am afraid Marehans would never accept to be sidelined on these issues , they will never allow any one else to dominate western Jubba river without their consent. I hope that the Jeberti community not to repeat another bloody of Kismayo quickmare.

[The`Republic]

Meta bro you are talking about Gedo hem between Afmadoow and Kismaayo in the middle of Mohamed Zubeyr Marehan has dug waterwells and settlements

Xiisadan ayaa kadanbaysay kadib markii ay beelka mid ah beelaha Soomaaliyeed ee daga Koonfurta Soomaali ay damacday in ay ceelka qodoto dhu ay leedahay beesha kale ee ay Dariska yihiin

Beesha Mareexaan ayaa ah beesha uu damaacigu kagalay in ay ceel kaqodato Orgiyow oo koonfurta kaga beegan dagmada Afmadow deegaan ahaana u’dhexaysa Qooqaani iyo Janay-Cabdale waana badhtama dhulka ay dagto beesha Absame

Ma aha markii ugu horaysay ee uu damaaci kagalo in ay ceelal iyo waro kaqodo beesha Mareexaan dhulka uudago Absamuhu bilihii tagay uunbay ahayd markii loo diiday war ay doonayeen in ay ka qodaan duleedka magaalada Diif oo kutaala Woqooyiga magaalada Dhoblay taasoo ay beesha Mareexaan doonaysay in ay deegaankaas waro kaqodato kuna yeelato deegaan lagama guuraan ah

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Rmember the Kenyan soldier who got scared around the Jannay Cabdalle mentioned south of Af Madoow. How did those people just happen to be Marehan nomads which Kenya later paid mag? Beesha Sade not only have Gedo to their name but live up to Bu'alle in Middle Jubba and now live in Lower Jubba deegaan not only Kismaayo.

Oxymoron meel iska fadhiiso sxb, Majeerteen is not even in the picture. If there are two Majeerteen in Kismaayo so too does Marehan have a neighborhood in Boosaaso known as Buurdhuubo. Majerten will be lucky to get one or two seats in Jubbaland parliament out of how many? Even Mareexaan has two seats in Puntland parliament. As for Majerten as governor of Lower Jubba, Mayor of Kismaayo, or what you said before as Harti without one deegaan o their name in jubbaland getting 1/3 of Jubbaland parliament like Mareexaan would get 1/3 of seats as you said although they have to their name more than half of the Jubbaland districts...I don't want to respond to such jokes.

[The`Republic]

Jubbaland state which is built on justice and fair power sharing of all its different communities is great success for somalia particularly the Jubbalanders: saying that i would like to give the benefit of the doubt to my Afmadoow and Garowe brothers and sisters.
If the procedures of delegates do not change the way it is going now i am afraid Marehans would never accept to be sidelined on these issues , they will never allow any one else to dominate western Jubba river without their consent. I hope that the Jeberti community not to repeat another bloody of Kismayo quickmare.

So far there has been little fun here and there. Dastur and flag and that stuff. The real fun starts when the 66 parliament is announced for this project and we see if any clan has more seats than Marehan. That's when people like Aw Libaax, Raadeer, Ali Madoobe etc will be forced to decide the legitimacy of the thing. The main reason this conference sti goes on with a shred of legitimacy is because strong sections of Marehan have taken part. They will decide the legitimacy of this conference before any one else does since they are already under severe pressure to pull out and destroy it.

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Voltage of course marehans live in lower jubba but do you really count families? Thats akin to me counting ogs from gedo. We are talking about settlements as a whole tribe. Marehan doesnt come below burdhuubo. If you want to insist on lying to yourself be my guest.

[abdirisak22]

Cagdheer Ogadens are carrying fire brand of Jubbaland state, they are united. determine and so far talking to all communities in Jubba valley. We Ilkayar Marehans should give respect and work with them but always reminding their leader Mr Egaal Shiidaad that Aw Libaax and Cabaas are at the gate.

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Meta bro you are talking about Gedo hem between Afmadoow and Kismaayo in the middle of Mohamed Zubeyr Marehan has dug waterwells and settlements

Xiisadan ayaa kadanbaysay kadib markii ay beelka mid ah beelaha Soomaaliyeed ee daga Koonfurta Soomaali ay damacday in ay ceelka qodoto dhu ay leedahay beesha kale ee ay Dariska yihiin

Beesha Mareexaan ayaa ah beesha uu damaacigu kagalay in ay ceel kaqodato Orgiyow oo koonfurta kaga beegan dagmada Afmadow deegaan ahaana u’dhexaysa Qooqaani iyo Janay-Cabdale waana badhtama dhulka ay dagto beesha Absame

Ma aha markii ugu horaysay ee uu damaaci kagalo in ay ceelal iyo waro kaqodo beesha Mareexaan dhulka uudago Absamuhu bilihii tagay uunbay ahayd markii loo diiday war ay doonayeen in ay ka qodaan duleedka magaalada Diif oo kutaala Woqooyiga magaalada Dhoblay taasoo ay beesha Mareexaan doonaysay in ay deegaankaas waro kaqodato kuna yeelato deegaan lagama guuraan ah

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Rmember the Kenyan soldier who got scared around the Jannay Cabdalle mentioned south of Af Madoow. How did those people just happen to be Marehan nomads which Kenya later paid mag? Beesha Sade not only have Gedo to their name but live up to Bu'alle in Middle Jubba and now live in Lower Jubba deegaan not only Kismaayo.

Oxymoron meel iska fadhiiso sxb, Majeerteen is not even in the picture. If there are two Majeerteen in Kismaayo so too does Marehan have a neighborhood in Boosaaso known as Buurdhuubo. Majerten will be lucky to get one or two seats in Jubbaland parliament out of how many? Even Mareexaan has two seats in Puntland parliament. As for Majerten as governor of Lower Jubba, Mayor of Kismaayo, or what you said before as Harti without one deegaan o their name in jubbaland getting 1/3 of Jubbaland parliament like Mareexaan would get 1/3 of seats as you said although they have to their name more than half of the Jubbaland districts...I don't want to respond to such jokes.

If I am not from Gedo and Kismaayo, who is?

You make stupid comments like this, as if no one knows or if people have forgotten, how Marehan came to power in those regions. Inadeer history specially recent history is well documented and ain't no one going to legitimize your tuugonimo and clan occupied during wartime.


If your adeer Hiiraale didn't sell himself iyo his clan short by becoming Mr. CabdiQasim Salad Boy's political stooges in the JVA outfit, you would have had a better argument today. If you would have taken the city from Morgan by yourselves you would off had more respect in terms of Kismayo is Jubbaland today as well. Lakiin you were brought escorted from Galgaduud all the way to Kismayo as a hired gun and shamelessly and brutally established under a JVA command, who used Arab Financial largesse that was given to Somalia as a form of Aid, but never left the deep pocket of Mr. CabdiQasim Salad Boy of the infamously incompetant TNG and his hired militias from Galgaduud region.

You were brought as a force by JVA, protected and kept in the Region by huge help from JVA. Marka baal tell us how did you come to own the place marka? A place if I may add you have no control over at this very moment? Walle Somali wa funny.