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Re: current friction...

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:36 pm
by FAH1223
I don't understand this notion that we don't ban atheists and only ban Muslims. Like, wtf? That's a case of people here believing their own bullshid.

We got rid of Abdijohnson who was the biggest spread of that filth around here, he insulted the Prophet and got a legitimate ban. There's countless others over the years that have been banned for the very same reason. The ban list is extensive of old usernames that flooded the forum who cursed our religion to no end.

Re: current friction...

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:50 am
by Talo alle udaa
My 2 cents
moderators who have strong beliefs about issues facing our ppl should be tolerant of views they may find distateful, and as warya put it, not argue with a member then ban them shortly after.

Their seems to be some confusion with what's tolerated and what's not which needs to be clarified.

Re: current friction...

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:55 am
by PrinceDaadi
Eid wanaagsan to members of Snet.

The problem facing Snet is that it has been to democratic when Mods have tried to bring sense of normality members are ganging up, it is funny even tribalist now defend Islam .

If my memory serves me correctly each of these banned members were publicly told to stop certain behaviors and they become hostile even insulting the Mods them selves.

Somalinet should be a platform where members exchange opinions and ideas, Islam bashing qabyaalad and trolling should attract swift banning.

My uncle used to say democracy doesnt work in its purest form.

Re: current friction...

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:48 am
by LeJusticier
I have observed that people who intentionally provoke others member's think they're entitle to provoke who they think is not on board and change every topic if they're having a conversation with them so they provoke another to anger in the hope he will attack the deen and got banned.

This trick won't work with me as we have obligation to protect all the member who abide our rules despite their belief, ethnicity etc.

Conclusion: Gegigroor, Kaafiye, SolidCamel will serve the remainder of their sentence.

When they comeback if they relaunch the smear campaign ( atheist and homosexual have taken SNet) I will make sure they will be banned again.
Member's intentions must be clear, sense of respect is secure, so venture into expressing your views openly and honestly without attacking members.

Eid Mubaarak

Re: current friction...

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:02 am
by TheblueNwhite
As far as I'm concerned, Lama and LJ are not perfect mods (nonexistent), but they sure cleaned up the forum since they've had put on the mod koofi.
LJ does work the hardest as a mod on these boards and I want to personally congratulate him. :up:

To all the mods, thank you guys for putting up with us, I know you guys volunteer your time and don't get compensated for all the crap we put you through. :up:

The forum has rules, and no one is above them. Those who break the rules, should accept whatever punishment is dished out to them by the mods. Sometimes,It is not fair (mods slip up), but hey it is just a virtual space and not an earthquake.

Members will always find a reason to complain about the mods. Today is Lama, tomorrow it will be another mod etc. we have seen this movie so many times, I lost count.

Mr. Waryaa, you and your crew should revisit and review the rules of the forum. May be get the members to throw in their 2 cents on the amendments if there need be.
SeƱor, I will leave you with: enforce, enforce, enforce the rules daily. Remember always that you are dealing with Somali Maxamed.

Whatever you do, you will always have blood on your hands, figuratively of course. Keep on improving the quality of the forum. Good luck!
My 2 cents.

Re: current friction...

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:52 am
by salool
Somalido hadal badana oo buuq badana :lol:

Imika sheekadan 5 cisho ayey socota.Anigu personally meshan mudo dheer baan joogay, labada qof ee meshan la haystana waan is jiidhnay oo maba wada hadalno.
Aniga dabeecadeyduna wa sida...qofka igu xad gudba markaas ba hadalkisa igu danbaysa.Aflaagado iyo caytoona ma jecli.Dadku inay is ixtiraaman ba fiican siiba meel public ah.Forumkan cid kasta way so booqata oo somali waxba ka aqoon.Wa inaynu si xushmad leh oo wada hadalno and never resort to insults when you cant win an argument.Markaad xanaaqdid log out.Meshan aqalki hooyada maaha.

As much i hate to admit this, Lj has cleaned up this place and put all trolls in their place.And the latest that i was amazed about is, how he saved and protected gedogirl even though she was not herself.Deleting her private info when she exposed herself.

Cala kuli xaal, qof aduunkan isku dheeli tiran ma jiro.Qof kasta khalad wuu gala ee iska dul qaata.Xuduudkiinan ha dhaafina.

Eid mubarak.

Re: current friction...

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:06 am
by MujahidAishah
Lj and lama are the most active mods which the reason people are up in arms about them. They have done a great job of cleaning up the forum. Well done to both them

Eid mubarak !!!

Re: current friction...

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:18 am
by burcaawi14
Most ppl on this site who start threads about religion are usually trolling. I've noticed this since I've joined snet, and the vast majority of the time it's the Atheist /Agnostic group. I don't know if they're young or just plain daft; but speaking I'll about our religion is extremely sensitive and it doesn't take one to be a salafi/wahabi to catch feelings. Whoever trolls about the deen should be banned permanently without any warnings. Constructive criticism is the proper and mature way to carry out discussions regarding religion, but if you mock & troll don't cry foul when we lash back.

Re: current friction...

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:20 am
by Sophisticate
I understand that the moderators are doing their job. And I actually like LJ and Lam. However, that doesn't mean I have to agree with their decisions. I don't think anyone is beyond reproach, even moderators. To allow moderators a carte blanche when banning members is not fair. The 3 warning process followed by a ban, is a step wise process that works. And yes; SolidCamel is my cousin which may infer bias. The same could be said for others as well. In any case, I've taken the liberty of reviewing his threads/posts and I don't find a legitimate reason for banning. He might have quarreled with a few members, but who hasn't? He always extends an olive branch when he is wrong, which is noble and quite diplomatic. He's never questioned anyone's level of religiosity or denigrated a member (to my knowledge). And from my understanding he's not a baiter. If questioning a banning decision resulted in an out right ban, the ban list would be endless, as topics questioning bans tend to pop up from time-to-time. I doubt my cousin will be back, since he stated he'd bid snet adieu by the end of summer to focus on Law school. :eat:

Eid Mubarak friends =)

Re: current friction...

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:44 am
by 1nemansquad
waryaa wrote:
Old timers who PMed me, pls add your feedback...
A mod should be someone who is neutral in spite of their personal beliefs, who can look at an issue rationally without any bias. An individual who can tame their large ego and doesn't treat the forum as their private home, who doesn't reprimand individuals as their children. I know this is very difficult to do as humans on all counts struggle with this everyday but the important thing is to have people who can at least strive to be neutral; and we do have those mods. I've always maintain my distance when it comes to how you do your business here and i been on this site on an off 10+ years. Never told you who should be mod or who shouldn't, never wanted to or asked to be a moderator. Even in times of real differences, nothing like the silliness that goes on here now, on a personal differences i had with some, old mods stayed neutral and i never felt there could be a ban or even a warning for that matter.

Some of the mods you have now, treat this place as their home. When i come to this site I don't want to feel like I'm at LeJusticier house god forbid.

I will put it like this, remember Viking, Sheikh Nur (i think that was his name), Beards. If those guys were here today they would get banned for spreading their Islamic point of views, its that bad. To put it bluntly as someone else said, I never thought I'll see the day where Muslims who love the Deen will feel they have to walk on egg shells because some mods are against the spread of Wahhabisim ideology they oppose.

Eid Mubarak.

Re: current friction...

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:05 am
by LeJusticier
1man

I do remember, 4 months ago before I stopped and forced you cessation of unprovoked hostility, you were on your daily mission on jumping down someone's throat alomost every day.
I woke up in the morning and see 3 or 4 reports from you about(un islamic and homo) but when I check I see only that the provocateur was you. Not only you provoke but you hijack threads by injecting athiest makhnuud words. I think you suffer Obsessive compulsive disorders.

I would net let you hijack thread and abuse members Full stop.

Re: current friction...

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:22 am
by LeJusticier
Sophisticate wrote:I understand that the moderators are doing their job. And I actually like LJ and Lam. However, that doesn't mean I have to agree with their decisions. I don't think anyone is beyond reproach, even moderators. To allow moderators a carte blanche when banning members is not fair. The 3 warning process followed by a ban, is a step wise process that works. And yes; SolidCamel is my cousin which may infer bias. The same could be said for others as well. In any case, I've taken the liberty of reviewing his threads/posts and I don't find a legitimate reason for banning. He might have quarreled with a few members, but who hasn't? He always extends an olive branch when he is wrong, which is noble and quite diplomatic. He's never questioned anyone's level of religiosity or denigrated a member (to my knowledge). And from my understanding he's not a baiter. If questioning a banning decision resulted in an out right ban, the ban list would be endless, as topics questioning bans tend to pop up from time-to-time. I doubt my cousin will be back, since he stated he'd bid snet adieu by the end of summer to focus on Law school. :eat:

Eid Mubarak friends =)
Sphi
The reason I banned one week for your cousin is he enjoyed and particated continuation with seasonal circle( why hebel got baned, why site are pro un islam, makhnuds etc.) Co'mon I deleted his thread about poll shall we remove lama from his modship thread, then later he posted two more thread about why this and that. I can't stand continuation with seasonal circle and smear campaign.

Today I am quite happy because my message to cease continuation with seasonal circle has been heard load and clear.

Asha
Waryaa
Salool,
Fah
TheblueNwhite
Talo alle udaa
PrinceDaadi
and Burcaawi idinkuna thanks and Ciid Mubaarik

Re: current friction...

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:25 am
by 1nemansquad
LeJusticier wrote:1man

when I check I see only that the provocateur was you. Not only you provoke but you hijack threads by injecting athiest makhnuud words
you're a liar

you're dishonest and i reject that in the name of Allah.

Re: current friction...

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:40 am
by LeJusticier
1nemansquad wrote:
LeJusticier wrote:1man

when I check I see only that the provocateur was you. Not only you provoke but you hijack threads by injecting athiest makhnuud words
you're a liar

you're dishonest and i reject that in the name of Allah.
Just go and review all your archived posts. Weliba the latest it's all about provoke with calaacal and smear campaign.
1man you need to learn how to debate complex issues in a civilised manner. Takale, this is public forums so Gaal and Muslims are allowed to visit here as long as they abide Snet rules.

Lejusticier

Re: current friction...

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:06 am
by 1nemansquad
You're a liar. You're dishonest.

I don't have to review a thing, why? because i don't respond to people unless i see a provocation (regarding Islam only) first that is how I'm. I agree this is a public forum, stop treating it like this your house.

Perhaps your old mind is locked on the old squad who used to karbaash you in qabiil squabbles, that guy doesn't exist.