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Nothing wrong with marrying an ajnabi, IMO. If you find someone your compatible with, then you shouldn't hesitate in tying the knot. Several of my own family members are married to ajnabis, and they've been married for several years and still going strong. A much bigger issue is marrying someone from a different clan. Not only are these marriages very short-lived and inherently unstable, but there's always something wrong with the kids from such marriages. The most well adjusted Somali kids I've seen almost always tend to come from married couple that either share the same sub-clan or clan.

SteadyState wrote:Nothing wrong with marrying an ajnabi, IMO. If you find someone your compatible with, then you shouldn't hesitate in tying the knot. Several of my own family members are married to ajnabis, and they've been married for several years and still going strong. A much bigger issue is marrying someone from a different clan. Not only are these marriages very short-lived and inherently unstable, but there's always something wrong with the kids from such marriages. The most well adjusted Somali kids I've seen almost always tend to come from married couple that either share the same sub-clan or clan.

Ok so I should marry a cadaan woman instead of another clan woman? doqon fawqal doqon.

My Aunt ( aasha xaaji Cilmi) has been married to Saacid Shirdoon ( for PM minister) for 28 years and they put each other to bed every night. Most Prominent Somali leaders of all times are inter-Clan product.

Aadan Cadde was half Ujeejeen half biyomaal ( DIR), General Daaud Half Abgaal half Xawaadle , Cabdirashiid Cali Sharmaarke was Half HG half MJ, Cali Khaliif Galaydh half Dhulos Half Isaaq, Singub Half Ogaden half Isaaq, xashan Sheikh Half Abgaal half Xawaadle, Cumar Faruuq Half Reer Awxassan Half Karanle, Xassan Daahir Uways Half Half Cayr half Mareexaan, Cabdullaahi Yusuf Half MJ half Dir.

The only prominent half somali half Something else who make sense is Sheikh Cabdirashiid Sheikh Cali Suufi who was born and brought up in Somalia. Another one is Hyperactive and his Dad.

by the way, my uncle's wife is half egyptian half somali. she grew up in somalia and got best of both cultures.

samu i noticed from my family that its better if you marry ajnabi to live in your country.. example to bring your wife to somalia. i am not that lucky cause my mom hates somalis . if she was brought to somalis would change.

Hyperactive wrote:by the way, my uncle's wife is half egyptian half somali. she grew up in somalia and got best of both cultures.

samu i noticed from my family that its better if you marry ajnabi to live in your country.. example to bring your wife to somalia. i am not that lucky cause my mom hates somalis . if she was brought to somalis would change.

Hyper, Another Somali doctor who is my neighbor back in kenya married an Indian woman and brought it to kenya. She speaks so somali so well. She even speak in Somalia to her children. If your mother would be brought to Somalia, she will interract with Somalis alot because there will be no arab communities over there. The longer she stays, the more she loosen up. So many Somalis who hated gaalo and cadaan loosen up when they come to the western world. In Qatar, Somalis are minorities so there is nothing for her to worry about it. She has her arab neighbors, malls, gov't and all that. Yemenis and Somalis have similar cultures. They eat khat alot and they are both poor. When Yemenis come to Somalia, they just integrate into the society within 2 years and they become somalis.

yemens are more humble than other arabs, even poor ones. but zaiyds are different. they dont integrate easily. i seen it in my mom's family. also southern yemanis are much more friendly and open minded, different in badow society of northern yeman, where my mom is from.

Sumubaridi wrote: Ok so I should marry a cadaan woman instead of another clan woman? doqon fawqal doqon.

Or, how about marrying a woman of your own clan? What's wrong with that? All I'm saying is from what I've observed in the real world, a Somali man has a much longer and successful marriage with a compatible ajnabi woman than a Somali woman from a different clan.

Sumubaridi wrote: My Aunt ( aasha xaaji Cilmi) has been married to Saacid Shirdoon ( for PM minister) for 28 years and they put each other to bed every night. Most Prominent Somali leaders of all times are inter-Clan product.

That's only an exception to the ule.

Sumubaridi wrote: Aadan Cadde was half Ujeejeen half biyomaal ( DIR), General Daaud Half Abgaal half Xawaadle , Cabdirashiid Cali Sharmaarke was Half HG half MJ, Cali Khaliif Galaydh half Dhulos Half Isaaq, Singub Half Ogaden half Isaaq, xashan Sheikh Half Abgaal half Xawaadle, Cumar Faruuq Half Reer Awxassan Half Karanle, Xassan Daahir Uways Half Half Cayr half Mareexaan, Cabdullaahi Yusuf Half MJ half Dir.

Other than perhaps one or two of those individuals, which clearly would fall under the "exceptions" bin, none of the others help your case. They were all either totally incompetent in their position or were bloodthirsty war lords. Really, this is your argument? A list of incompetent statesmen and war lords who are largely responsible for the collapse of the state and its perpetual state of chaos. Even in the civil war, most of the people doing the ethnic cleansing were psychotic kids who were targeting their reer abti.

SteadyState wrote:

Sumubaridi wrote: Ok so I should marry a cadaan woman instead of another clan woman? doqon fawqal doqon.

Or, how about marrying a woman of your own clan? What's wrong with that? All I'm saying is from what I've observed in the real world, a Somali man has a much longer and successful marriage with a compatible ajnabi woman than a Somali woman from a different clan.

Sumubaridi wrote: My Aunt ( aasha xaaji Cilmi) has been married to Saacid Shirdoon ( for PM minister) for 28 years and they put each other to bed every night. Most Prominent Somali leaders of all times are inter-Clan product.

That's only an exception to the ule.

Sumubaridi wrote: Aadan Cadde was half Ujeejeen half biyomaal ( DIR), General Daaud Half Abgaal half Xawaadle , Cabdirashiid Cali Sharmaarke was Half HG half MJ, Cali Khaliif Galaydh half Dhulos Half Isaaq, Singub Half Ogaden half Isaaq, xashan Sheikh Half Abgaal half Xawaadle, Cumar Faruuq Half Reer Awxassan Half Karanle, Xassan Daahir Uways Half Half Cayr half Mareexaan, Cabdullaahi Yusuf Half MJ half Dir.

Other than perhaps one or two of those individuals, which clearly would fall under the "exceptions" bin, none of the others help your case. They were all either totally incompetent in their position or were bloodthirsty war lords. Really, this is your argument? A list of incompetent statesmen and war lords who are largely responsible for the collapse of the state and its perpetual state of chaos. Even in the civil war, most of the people doing the ethnic cleansing were psychotic kids who were targeting their reer abti.

Saaxiib this is what I have experience with Somali women. if the woman is from your qabil, she will take you for grunted and think the family will talk to you even if she treat you like crap. If the woman is from another clan, she will respect you and show you love. They take it to another level when its a cadaan man but way better if you are from another qabil.

Sumubaridi wrote:

SteadyState wrote:Nothing wrong with marrying an ajnabi, IMO. If you find someone your compatible with, then you shouldn't hesitate in tying the knot. Several of my own family members are married to ajnabis, and they've been married for several years and still going strong. A much bigger issue is marrying someone from a different clan. Not only are these marriages very short-lived and inherently unstable, but there's always something wrong with the kids from such marriages. The most well adjusted Somali kids I've seen almost always tend to come from married couple that either share the same sub-clan or clan.

Ok so I should marry a cadaan woman instead of another clan woman? doqon fawqal doqon.

My Aunt ( aasha xaaji Cilmi) has been married to Saacid Shirdoon ( for PM minister) for 28 years and they put each other to bed every night. Most Prominent Somali leaders of all times are inter-Clan product.

Aadan Cadde was half Ujeejeen half biyomaal ( DIR), General Daaud Half Abgaal half Xawaadle , Cabdirashiid Cali Sharmaarke was Half HG half MJ, Cali Khaliif Galaydh half Dhulos Half Isaaq, Singub Half Ogaden half Isaaq, xashan Sheikh Half Abgaal half Xawaadle, Cumar Faruuq Half Reer Awxassan Half Karanle, Xassan Daahir Uways Half Half Cayr half Mareexaan, Cabdullaahi Yusuf Half MJ half Dir.

The only prominent half somali half Something else who make sense is Sheikh Cabdirashiid Sheikh Cali Suufi who was born and brought up in Somalia. Another one is Hyperactive and his Dad.

That is interesting, what is Sheikh Cabdirashid Sheikh Cali Suufis other half? I always thought he was 100% Somali.

samu, just adit it bro. war wad na naadisay. if they do not know let them dee. authobillah.

Thanks, now I know you are taking the piss!

Sumubaridi wrote: Saaxiib this is what I have experience with Somali women. if the woman is from your qabil, she will take you for grunted and think the family will talk to you even if she treat you like crap. If the woman is from another clan, she will respect you and show you love. They take it to another level when its a cadaan man but way better if you are from another qabil.

I think those cases of the woman taking the man for granted occur because she was probably pressured into marrying him by the family. As for a different qabil, well first you need to find one who is actually open to marrying outside of their qabil. From what I've observed, most Somali women in the qurbaha aren't interested in marrying outside of their qabil. Most would rather marry an ajnabi than a Somali of a different clan. Interestingly, it's actually easier for them to get their parents to accept an ajnabi husband than a Somali from a different qabil. Even if you do find that one among the minority that you're compatible with, let me just say there are a lot of people who want to ruin the marriage and will do everything to split you up when there's a minor argument or fight as there is in all marriages. IMO, there's nothing better than being married to a compatible woman who is from the same laf. There's a natural affinity there when marrying among your own kind, and when you run into any type of problems in your marriage, both families will come together and will work hard to solve it and keep the marriage going.

Steady, i dont think this is true. new generation do not even know qabil or somali language. i am taking abut people 25 and younger who born in the qurbaha and their parents not FOB.

"Gaal Seedi/Dumaashi kuu Noqo'y "
Is to the worst habaar one could say to another.

Hyperactive wrote:Steady, i dont think this is true. new generation do not even know qabil or somali language. i am taking abut people 25 and younger who born in the qurbaha and their parents not FOB.

FOB waa maxay?