Several liyyu police killed by armed Oromo warriors

[MayDay777]

we shall see my AIDSthopian friend. Whatever happens will happen but know that my land will be fully independent soon. You say Ethiopia is important to the west? Well Somalia has just found the biggest oil deposit in the world. Guess who the west will suck up to now? Guess who they will throw money, weapons, investment literally everything at? Definitely not resourcesless AIDS ridden shithole that has secessionists in every corner

Wlhi I spit on the face on anyone that tells me Oromos are our brothers. These pagans have been our enemies for 500 years and will be our enemies for another 500.

[Waachis]

we shall see my AIDSthopian friend. Whatever happens will happen but know that my land will be fully independent soon. You say Ethiopia is important to the west? Well Somalia has just found the biggest oil deposit in the world. Guess who the west will suck up to now? Guess who they will throw money, weapons, investment literally everything at? Definitely not resourcesless AIDS ridden shithole that has secessionists in every corner

Wlhi I spit on the face on anyone that tells me Oromos are our brothers. These pagans have been our enemies for 500 years and will be our enemies for another 500.

Good luck beating over 75 million Ethiopians. LOL @ them sucking up to a Muslim country over their Christian ruled empire Ethiopia. did u forget ethiopia was the only african country to be at the berlin conference, when africa was being divided up like cake?
you must be delusional, son. and ethiopia has more gold, minerals, farm land, water, than somalia. resourceless= a lie based on your emotions and hatred, not a fact based on evidence/logic.

[OAF]

Waachis you dont seem to know what youre talking about, your so confused that you dont even know what your vision is for your oromia, you have let down the martyrs and the heroes of OLF by saying things your several oppressors was forcing you to.

one question.
Do you want Ethiopia to be ruled by you oromos or amhara?

[Strategic]

I will go ahead and state some facts for a reminder to people:


1. Most Ethiopians are patriotic and love their country, even if they have issues with the government. Especially Oromos, Amharas, Gurages and Agew/Kimants and those groups add up to over 75 million humans.


Good Luck controlling 76-80 Million people with Limited resources,your gov has been in power for quarter a century,it is dictatorship.

2. The West needs Ethiopia badly as a part of its strategy in the Horn. They said it themselves: we are not prepared to see Ethiopia disintegrate.
If they see Ethiopia collapsing, it's easy to get soldiers there, they're already there, in Djibouti, in Somalia, and elsewhere.

there is no badly thing,it is all about interests and economics,they change according to the reality on the ground.

3. TPLF cannot save the somali state from the wrath of over 75 million Ethiopians if the somalis try to destroy ethiopia. if you couldn't do it in 1978 when you had the best army, well equipped and trained; you must be on drugs to think it's possible today when ethiopia is the hegemonic power in the horn with soldiers in south sudan, somalia, etc.
Ethiopia should stay inside their country and not interferne with somalia federal republic,eritrea is already giving you headaches,a stable somalia is in the interest of ethiopia,we have no intention of annexing ethiopia,our country is already huge and needs proper managment,we have no interest in ethioppian land.
tplf can give you approval to secede, but as long as the national army exists, they will just intervene and stop it. 300,000 ethio soldiers backed by a strong and experienced air force. and moral and material and manpower support from tens of millions of ethiopians.

i know some of you are reacting emotionally, not logically, but this is the plain truth.
abdi iley himself will be destroyed if he tried to destroy ethiopia.
he can continue to rule his people with an iron fist, if he wants, but within the context of ONE ETHIOPIA.
ETHIOPIA ANDE NEW....
LOL sorry guys.
Geopolitics is the horn is changing,there are too many players ,too many actors,it is in the interest of both countries to respect eacother as neighbours and get busy with their internal affairs.

[DhuloPride]

3. TPLF cannot save the somali state from the wrath of over 75 million Ethiopians if the somalis try to destroy ethiopia. if you couldn't do it in 1978 when you had the best army, well equipped and trained; you must be on drugs to think it's possible today when ethiopia is the hegemonic power in the horn with soldiers in south sudan, somalia, etc.
tplf can give you approval to secede, but as long as the national army exists, they will just intervene and stop it. 300,000 ethio soldiers backed by a strong and experienced air force. and moral and material and manpower support from tens of millions of ethiopians.

In 1978, we would have conquered all of Ethiopia were it not for the whole soviet world backing Ethiopia whilst we had no allies. Tens of thousands of Cuban soldiers, full USSR support(who were a superpower) is why we didn't colonize Ethiopia, not because of some peasant Oromo farmers.

The national army is controlled by the TPLF and all of the generals are Tigrayan you fool. If the TPLF collapses, then this "national army" collapses. They will make sure that the country is ruled by nobody else if it collapses. I'm looking forward to Bale being part of Western Somalia.

They won't invest a dime in Ethiopia which will collapse due to ethnic tensions. Ethiopia will be split like Yugoslavia and those who try to save it will be the ones that lose most of their lands. Let's not even forget that Ethiopia has chosen to join the Chinese so the West has lost it's interest.

[MayDay777]

we shall see my AIDSthopian friend. Whatever happens will happen but know that my land will be fully independent soon. You say Ethiopia is important to the west? Well Somalia has just found the biggest oil deposit in the world. Guess who the west will suck up to now? Guess who they will throw money, weapons, investment literally everything at? Definitely not resourcesless AIDS ridden shithole that has secessionists in every corner

Wlhi I spit on the face on anyone that tells me Oromos are our brothers. These pagans have been our enemies for 500 years and will be our enemies for another 500.

Good luck beating over 75 million Ethiopians. LOL @ them sucking up to a Muslim country over their Christian ruled empire Ethiopia. did u forget ethiopia was the only african country to be at the berlin conference, when africa was being divided up like cake?
you must be delusional, son. and ethiopia has more gold, minerals, farm land, water, than somalia. resourceless= a lie based on your emotions and hatred, not a fact based on evidence/logic.

No actually I'm being very realistic and blunt in my posts. They're definitely hate driven but I have facts to back up my claims.

You think the west now cares about some bullshit bullshit religious symbolism? Lol they aren't even majority Christian anymore.

If the west cared about Christianity anymore they wouldn't have made Turkey a 98% Muslim country the second strongest country in NATO and the 5th overall in the world. Only resources and strategic value matters to them and Somalia is richer in both compared to Ethiopia. If the west is retarded enough to ignore Somalia in favor of Ethiopia then other people will swoop in and take the opportunity. Turkey is a prime example.

In this day and age do you honestly think farmland and water can compete with Oil and strategic importance?

Leave that for a moment, you said it's 75 million against us. Mate! ONLF comprised of a few sub clans used to give the Ethiopians who were 90 million strong constant headaches. Now imagine a united somali front?

Before any of this happens the Tigray will loot everything in Addis Harar Dire and all other major cities then bomb the shit out of them after also stealing all weapons. so the 75 million will be powerless and easy to run through. So don't over estimate your situation Xabashi scum.

In any case, we shall see what happens. If you won't accept peace then you will accept our bullets

[AwRastaale]

Good news and when Oromo and Amhara return will be even better.

idoor waxiid, labadeena way inoo taala kolkay itoobiya burburto.

Ethiopia is not going to collapse but the Amhara and Oromo will return with a vengeance.

Of course the usual Isaaq leader will be appointed.

We may have to drive you and your camels behind the Kenyan fence.

It's inevitable.

Ethiopia is not Somalia. When one group loses grip of power, they just melt into the civilians and army remains ghe same only new leaderships and ranks are appointed by the new administration.

You're forever the property of Ethiopia and ina iley was just made the guard to wipe out his own. Today he killed off any ONLF hope and in the end Ethiopia will also liquidate him now that he has killed off his own rats.

Wait and see.

[Waachis]

The West is def. majority Christian and then Atheist, if anything. America? Over 70% of the people claim to be Christian, including their army/navy/air force/special forces/etc.
Maybe you're referring to the leaders, then yes, they're not really Christians, more like devil worshipers/worshipers of ancient Egyptian deities.
Somalia does not have more natural resources than Ethiopia, this is a simple lie. We have more gold than you, more minerals, more water (you depend a lot on the webi shabelle, which originates where again?!), more livestock than you, more everything except perhaps pirates, bananas and a port(s).
The West is the one who made Ethiopia. They armed them, while making sure the somalis afars and others had NO ARMS.
They trained meneliks army. they had soldiers on the frontlines. they even joined his expeditions to the south and south east/west.
without farmland and water, you will depend on others to feed you, and if you cannot feed yourself, you might as well be a failed state.
food security and basic security=two basic traits of a successful, or even a semi-successful state. can you eat oil?
ONLF? LOL what a joke dude. They need stood a chance. They may have had a chance if they switched their program and name to SNLF=Somali National Liberation Front, but as long as they stick to their clan only, the TPLF or others can easily play divide-and-conquer.
Many Somali clans already expressed their dislike for the name ONLF, hence the reason other parties were started, such as the ESDL-ETHIO SOMALI DEMOCRATIC LEAGUE.
AND LOL keep dreaming dude, tplf cannot do all of that, because it is fighting for its survival right now. eritrea is waiting to attack, the oromos will, the amharas will, the fact that you side with a hated minority shows how much knowledge you lack and how you do not look at the bigger picture. oromos border you, tigray doesn't; you will have to deal with us in one way or another until the day of judgement.
but if things get too hot, tplf will abandon you and run to their dry mountains, leaving you exposed to the combined amhara-oromo-agew-qemant-gurage-silte-sidama-anuak-gumuz alliance since they all love Ethiopia.
You lost in 1978, when you had a bigger and well trained army; you'll lose again son....

[Waachis]

Waachis you dont seem to know what youre talking about, your so confused that you dont even know what your vision is for your oromia, you have let down the martyrs and the heroes of OLF by saying things your several oppressors was forcing you to.

one question.
Do you want Ethiopia to be ruled by you oromos or amhara?

the OLF fought for the Oromos right to decide their fate: whether it be autonomous oromia within 1 oromia OR complete secession.
but secession is simply not a viable option for oromos. first of all, it would lead to the disintegration of Ethiopia, a country we helped build and shed blood to protect. Second of all, a larger country with a larger economy and army=better opportunities for the Oromo and a better overall concept. It would not be in our best interests. OLF knows this, the average Oromo farmer from shoa to wallaga to borana to bale knows this too.
It would be like burning down a home, you built with your hands, while you're still in the home.
We're very much integrated into the fabric of Ethiopian society, we are not some peripheral nation like the somalis or others.
Oromos will have to step up and rule Ethiopia. We must have a bigger vision than just Oromia, let's rule the entire empire, which is the 29th biggest country on earth.....

[MayDay777]

Bro we shall see. No point in having meaningless arguments on the internet.

[Khalid Ali]

oromo is ethiopia and Ethiopia is oromo. u cant separate the 2 the secessionist oromo is a minority. i support oromo karbaashing liyuu but Ethiopia cannot be divided its just not viable in the future some of these somalis are acting emotional. they to know if the ethiopians state leaves the somali kilil. issa will fight ogaden and isaaq will fight ogaden and there will be a blood bath. the Ethiopia state must remain united and strong ruled by a strong amhara oromo coalition. in order to keep the county intact when the minority is removed. oromo count the most rases ras ali and ras gobana. ras mekonnen. they should never leave their history or run away.

[DhuloPride]

They can sign it off all they want; will the Ethiopian people accept it is the true question? tplf can barely survive, how can it help others?
and they do not even border you. they can do what they want, but the patriotic ethiopians who border u won't sit and watch.
They signed off land to Sudan, rich farm lands, and the amhara militias didn't accept it and the land is still disputed.
amhara fighters still had the land and still have it as of now.
do not underestimate ethiopia. you did in 1978 and your country never recovered.

Your people dont even want to rule Ethiopia, they want an independent Oromo. This is what you're forgetting. You don't even control your land, and you think you can take Ogaden? Ethiopia is held together by TPLF, and once it collapses there wont be another ruler. The country will descend into civil war, and become a safe haven for terrorists if it doesnt happen quick. Who are patiotic ethiopians? Oromos? you are funny man. Your people don't even consider themselves ethiopians.

The amharas love to subject oromos, so perhaps you may form one country. As for Ogaden & Tigayians then we will go our own paths. We will form our own nation, and they would rather join Eritrea than be led under Ethiopia.

nobody knows what the oromo majority wants. wanna know? because they were never asked. no consensus has been reached among all oromos, as of yet. what i do know is based on my interactions with christian, muslim, and the traditional religious oromos.
most do not mention secession. they mention: alleviation of poverty, building roads, schools, clinics, self-rule, our own army, developing our language and culture and so on.
yes we do not control our land now, nobody controls their state, even somalis. liyyus await their orders from the tigrayan general assigned to that area.
however..... we do have the power to stand behind the army and join it, if the countries nearing collapse.
the amhara will not watch. the oromo won't.
the oromos back home are very much patriotic bro. from wollo, shoa down to borana, guji, macca areas.
they love ethiopia bro. they know ethiopia's well being means their well being. if ethiopia's doing bad, so will they do.
we will not fight the ogadenis if they do not try to destroy ethiopia. as i said before, who would sit and watch their country burn down?
somalis cannot even accept somalilands desire for independence, but somehow expect ethiopians to accept their country being disintegrated?
can you not see the hypocrisy there?

The Arsi, Bale and Afran Qallo Oromos are all Anti Ethiopia & Anti Xabesha they only number around 14 million, whilst you have the Wellega Oromos who are 100 % Christian and would backstab the Muslim Oromos for the sake of the Amharas, they wish they were habesha.

To act as if the former are the same are the latter is just stupid, they've stabbed you in the back and will continue to do so if they are given power. You are nothing like the Somalis who are 100 % Muslim.

[GalliumerianSlayer]

2 million small Eritreas fought for their freedom unlike the useless Somali ethiopians who gave up after the 77 war. Now you see them parading as LIyuu and killing Somalis indiscriminately. Watch someone reply to this comment of mine with ad hominem attacks as per usual by certain emotional somalis across the border.

Why didn't the Somalis from K5 create their own party after the 77 war? a secessionist party with a separate constitution,parliament, currency, etc.. such as Somaliland has done? Somaliland are at-atleast trying unlike the useless Somali Kenyan and Somali Ethiopians who gave up the secessionist struggle. They could've been an independent respective nations by now (NFD/K5) and could have joined the Somali republic if they wanted to (up to their population).

40 years later after the 77 war the Somali ethiopians are still marginalized and politically weak, doqon Illey is digging the graves for all of the somali population in eastern Ethiopia.

[Waachis]

Your people dont even want to rule Ethiopia, they want an independent Oromo. This is what you're forgetting. You don't even control your land, and you think you can take Ogaden? Ethiopia is held together by TPLF, and once it collapses there wont be another ruler. The country will descend into civil war, and become a safe haven for terrorists if it doesnt happen quick. Who are patiotic ethiopians? Oromos? you are funny man. Your people don't even consider themselves ethiopians.

The amharas love to subject oromos, so perhaps you may form one country. As for Ogaden & Tigayians then we will go our own paths. We will form our own nation, and they would rather join Eritrea than be led under Ethiopia.

nobody knows what the oromo majority wants. wanna know? because they were never asked. no consensus has been reached among all oromos, as of yet. what i do know is based on my interactions with christian, muslim, and the traditional religious oromos.
most do not mention secession. they mention: alleviation of poverty, building roads, schools, clinics, self-rule, our own army, developing our language and culture and so on.
yes we do not control our land now, nobody controls their state, even somalis. liyyus await their orders from the tigrayan general assigned to that area.
however..... we do have the power to stand behind the army and join it, if the countries nearing collapse.
the amhara will not watch. the oromo won't.
the oromos back home are very much patriotic bro. from wollo, shoa down to borana, guji, macca areas.
they love ethiopia bro. they know ethiopia's well being means their well being. if ethiopia's doing bad, so will they do.
we will not fight the ogadenis if they do not try to destroy ethiopia. as i said before, who would sit and watch their country burn down?
somalis cannot even accept somalilands desire for independence, but somehow expect ethiopians to accept their country being disintegrated?
can you not see the hypocrisy there?

The Arsi, Bale and Afran Qallo Oromos are all Anti Ethiopia & Anti Xabesha they only number around 14 million, whilst you have the Wellega Oromos who are 100 % Christian and would backstab the Muslim Oromos for the sake of the Amharas, they wish they were habesha.

To act as if the former are the same are the latter is just stupid, they've stabbed you in the back and will continue to do so if they are given power. You are nothing like the Somalis who are 100 % Muslim.

Who told you they are anti Ethiopia? They are anti-Abyssinian hegemony, not anti-Ethiopian. I got a lot of family from there, I know my people very well too, and most want cultural development, true autonomy, to run our own state and its affairs, but most oromos are not too excited about independence. It's also possible many do not think of it because it doesn't seem possible.
AND NO.... Wallaga is not 100% Christian either, it's more like 50-65% Christian, at the most. Even then, they're still Oromo, and a target of tigrayan elites and their allies.
Wallaga is one of the founding areas of the OLF struggle and where they were very active. Even the Christian Oromos there are HATED by Abyssinian Christians because they are for the Oromo struggle and cause.
and somalis are 100 % muslim and STILL cannot stand each other, still kill each other, still cannot liberate 1 city (mogadishu).

[DhuloPride]

nobody knows what the oromo majority wants. wanna know? because they were never asked. no consensus has been reached among all oromos, as of yet. what i do know is based on my interactions with christian, muslim, and the traditional religious oromos.
most do not mention secession. they mention: alleviation of poverty, building roads, schools, clinics, self-rule, our own army, developing our language and culture and so on.
yes we do not control our land now, nobody controls their state, even somalis. liyyus await their orders from the tigrayan general assigned to that area.
however..... we do have the power to stand behind the army and join it, if the countries nearing collapse.
the amhara will not watch. the oromo won't.
the oromos back home are very much patriotic bro. from wollo, shoa down to borana, guji, macca areas.
they love ethiopia bro. they know ethiopia's well being means their well being. if ethiopia's doing bad, so will they do.
we will not fight the ogadenis if they do not try to destroy ethiopia. as i said before, who would sit and watch their country burn down?
somalis cannot even accept somalilands desire for independence, but somehow expect ethiopians to accept their country being disintegrated?
can you not see the hypocrisy there?

The Arsi, Bale and Afran Qallo Oromos are all Anti Ethiopia & Anti Xabesha they only number around 14 million, whilst you have the Wellega Oromos who are 100 % Christian and would backstab the Muslim Oromos for the sake of the Amharas, they wish they were habesha.

To act as if the former are the same are the latter is just stupid, they've stabbed you in the back and will continue to do so if they are given power. You are nothing like the Somalis who are 100 % Muslim.

Who told you they are anti Ethiopia? They are anti-Abyssinian hegemony, not anti-Ethiopian. I got a lot of family from there, I know my people very well too, and most want cultural development, true autonomy, to run our own state and its affairs, but most oromos are not too excited about independence. It's also possible many do not think of it because it doesn't seem possible.
AND NO.... Wallaga is not 100% Christian either, it's more like 50-65% Christian, at the most. Even then, they're still Oromo, and a target of tigrayan elites and their allies.
Wallaga is one of the founding areas of the OLF struggle and where they were very active. Even the Christian Oromos there are HATED by Abyssinian Christians because they are for the Oromo struggle and cause.
and somalis are 100 % muslim and STILL cannot stand each other, still kill each other, still cannot liberate 1 city (mogadishu).

The Abyssinian's are the Amharas who are against federalism and want to dominate everyone into their empire, history proves this. You got a better chance under the Tigrayans, but you seem to be fooled to think that the Amharas will share with you. If TPLF implemented what their constitutions says, then your people would have their interests met. The democratization of Ethiopia is inevitable, which the Amharas are against.