Somaliland Recognition

[Ben Dover]

I told you, you have no idea what you are talking about.

I have proven without a shadow of a doubt that Erigavo town is an Isaaq settlement. The city itself was never disputed by anyone, at any point. It flies our flag, it votes in our elections, its surrounded by Isaaq on every direction. What you dispute is Erigavo district, you have only three villages there. A minor player at best. Isaaq completely dominate Erigavo and Ceelafweyn districts, Warsangali dominate Badhan district, and you have nothing. Lets not derail the thread sxb.

The fact that your position is that Erigavo is shared, while I am telling you outright and presenting proof that it is not tells you have no claim to the city. Its like when Gadabursi try to claim Gabiley, and Sacad Muse shut them down.

As we have discussed previously, Sanaag is sparsely populated in the space you inhabit in the southern side. The population mostly live in Erigavo, Ceel Afweyn and Badhan districts:





Just look at how sparse Sool looks outsides of Las Anod.

You do not have numbers sxb, I wish you actually did, believe it or not, but you come nowhere near even Gudabursi.

I do not want to turn this into another Erigavo thread, we can continue there if you like.

You live in three districts in Sool and Sanaag (LA, Taleex and Badhan) and you share Xudun and Buuhoodle. Yes, both Xudun and Buuhoodle districts are shared. Buuhoodle you share with Solomadow and Axmed Farax and Xudun you share with some HY and HJ. You can not escape that no matter how many times you reach into your txt file. The district of Buuhoodle has no 25 villages, or maybe it does but only dependant on how you classify a village. Most of these random spots have less than 200 inhabitants. Wait for the upcoming Somaliland election and you will see whether we share Xudun or Buuhoodle or not.

Those figures are you presented are not accurate at all, they are literally pulled out of thin air. If you want to use them you are essentially saying Warsangali and Dhulbahante are equal in numbers, at 7% a piece. That would be up to you.

You better believe both Dir and our Harti will vote yes if a referendum was ever to be done. The referendum will be fair and you will have your chance to vote. If it ever happens, I suggest you do just that. No more claims of the phantom numerous Dhulbahanta clan that never ever votes.

[Sharmarke91]

I told you, you have no idea what you are talking about.

I have proven without a shadow of a doubt that Erigavo town is an Isaaq settlement. The city itself was never disputed by anyone, at any point. It flies our flag, it votes in our elections, its surrounded by Isaaq on every direction. What you dispute is Erigavo district, you have only three villages there. A minor player at best. Isaaq completely dominate Erigavo and Ceelafweyn districts, Warsangali dominate Badhan district, and you have nothing. Lets not derail the thread sxb.

The fact that your position is that Erigavo is shared, while I am telling you outright and presenting proof that it is not tells you have no claim to the city. Its like when Gadabursi try to claim Gabiley, and Sacad Muse shut them down.

As we have discussed previously, Sanaag is sparsely populated in the space you inhabit in the southern side. The population mostly live in Erigavo, Ceel Afweyn and Badhan districts:





Just look at how sparse Sool looks outsides of Las Anod.

You do not have numbers sxb, I wish you actually did, believe it or not, but you come nowhere near even Gudabursi.

I do not want to turn this into another Erigavo thread, we can continue there if you like.

You live in three districts in Sool and Sanaag (LA, Taleex and Badhan) and you share Xudun and Buuhoodle. Yes, both Xudun and Buuhoodle districts are shared. Buuhoodle you share with Solomadow and Axmed Farax and Xudun you share with some HY and HJ. You can not escape that no matter how many times you reach into your txt file. The district of Buuhoodle has no 25 villages, or maybe it does but only dependant on how you classify a village. Most of these random spots have less than 200 inhabitants. Wait for the upcoming Somaliland election and you will see whether we share Xudun or Buuhoodle or not.

Those figures are you presented are not accurate at all, they are literally pulled out of thin air. If you want to use them you are essentially saying Warsangali and Dhulbahante are equal in numbers, at 7% a piece. That would be up to you.

You better believe both Dir and our Harti will vote yes if a referendum was ever to be done. The referendum will be fair and you will have your chance to vote. If it ever happens, I suggest you do just that. No more claims of the phantom numerous Dhulbahanta clan that never ever votes.

aar fuck off, wax waalan baatahaye!

- Erigavo city is shared equally!

- Erigavo district is Harti majority

- Las Anod, Buuhoodle, xudun, Taleex and Badhan are exclusively Harti districts.

- Caynaba and Burco districts are shared between Dhulos and Isaaq.

Best believe.

[Sharmarke91]

You've definitely humoured me.

Well of course those figures are estimates but they give a preview and you can deduce a rough estimate for clans. These figures are also close to the clans of the British so, its likely they are correct.

Firstly, we've have debated about Erigavo city lets not go there again; you believe its Isaaq and me being truthful know its equally shared between Isaaq & Harti clans. The Erigavo we're talking about now is the district of Erigavo.


I was being reasonable when I said the districts population estimate can be equally divided between the Isaaq and Harti since we don't have accurate numbers based on clans. However, in reality the Harti by population, by and far out number the Isaaq in the district, not only that the vast greater portion of the district in terms of land belongs to the Harti clans. This can easily be proofed. Also, you might not know but half of the Warsengali live in Erigavo district. Their major towns of Carmale, Xingalool, and Ceel Buuh are in the district.

As for Buuhoodle district. The district has 25 villages and the city of Buuhoodle. Out of the villages one is Isaaq ( Qorilugud) and even that one village is right on the border between Buuhoodle and Burao districts. So, it is crazy when you say the Isaaq inhabit 1/2 of Buuhoodle - are you trolling? its equal to me saying the Dhulbahante owns half of Burao since we have the village of Xadhadhan in that district.

and in Xudun district the Isaaq inhabit 3 tiny villages which are all newly built where the Dhulbahante inhabit 11 villages and the town of Xudan. So, again its crazy you say that we equally share the district. It would be like me saying that half of Caynabo district is Dhulbahante since we settle in the village of Gumeys in that district and have presences in Oog and Caynabo. It looks like your out for a fight sxb, why you so insecure about degaan?

The Harti clans in effect almost exclusively or solely occupy the districts of Las Anod, Buuhoodle, Taleh, Xudun, and Badhan, where we have the majority of population in Erigavo district.

There are no such thing as Pro-Somaliland Harti in a referendum all Harti people would vote no, so would the Dir in Awdal region. In fact its the Isaaq who have a lot of patriotic people who would also vote no especially the HY. So, again it would be a close result that could go either way.

No point discussing with this idoor sxb.

When he claimed that 1/2 of Xudun belongs to Isaaq (when in fact their little settlement cannot even be called a tuulo), he lost all credibility.

Here is what he is referring to, BTW it's on the border between Sanaag/North West Xudun: https://i.snag.gy/P46LnV.jpg

There is less than 20 buildings there.

Lol I thought he was normal sxb.

[Ben Dover]

aar fuck off, wax waalan baatahaye!

- Erigavo city is shared equally!

- Erigavo district is Harti majority

- Las Anod, Buuhoodle, xudun, Taleex and Badhan are exclusively Harti districts.

- Caynaba and Burco districts are shared between Dhulos and Isaaq.

Best believe.

I got you to squeal and calaacal in the other thread, did you forget?

"Ma sidan baa qaran lugula wadaagaya? "

"Hadad rabtid inad kasbatid beelaha Hartiga taageridooda Somaliland in ay dhaqankan aad wadid ay sii fogaaynayan "



I think qurjiilahan waan sii fogeeyey

Erigavo is an Isaaq city no doubt, the district is dominated by Isaaq as population density maps above clearly shows.

Buuhoodle and Xudun are shared deegans, no one can dispute that. Go on and claim Caynaba (the reason you had to name Buuhoodle Cayn ) and Burco, claim even Hargeisa if you like. This does not change realities on the ground.

If this referendum ever materialises, you better hope your people show up, they have a long history of not showing up, or getting bought off by Somaliland.

[Sharmarke91]

complete and utter rubbish!

Erigavo city is shared! no doubt, thankfully the city has a clear border between the Isaaq and Harti sides.

and WALAHAY Erigavo district by land and by population is majority Harti! I would go as far as saying at least 65% of the district is Harti.

If Xudun and Buuhoodle are shared then Burco and Caynaba are shared,

Since we have Xadhadhan in Burco district and Guumeys, Oog, and Caynaba in Caynaba district.

I dare you to name one village other than qorilugud in Buuhoodle thats Isaaq. Also, in Xudun district what village do you have apart from Bohol, Faraguul, and Ceel la helay? which are all newly built and consist of no more than 20 structures each.

[Ben Dover]

You can swear to whomever you wish, qurjiile, even sayid siigayste like your people do.

Erigavo is by all accounts an Isaaq town. This was proven without a shadow of doubt.

Population density clearly shows who is majority and who has minimal presence in Erigavo district and the wider Sanaag region. It even shows how little your population in Sool is. Go calacal elsewhere qurjiile.

"Ma sidan baa qaran lugula wadaagaya? "

[Sharmarke91]

You can swear to whomever you wish, qurjiile, even sayid siigayste like your people do.

Erigavo is by all accounts an Isaaq town. This was proven without a shadow of doubt.

Population density clearly shows who is majority and who has minimal presence in Erigavo district and the wider Sanaag region. It even shows how little your population in Sool is. Go calacal elsewhere qurjiile.

"Ma sidan baa qaran lugula wadaagaya? "

at least my people don't worship the British queen.

There you go, you can't name one other village in Xudun and Buuhoodle! Marka quite making absurd statements.

Erigavo is Harti & Isaaq, fact!

The district is majority Harti, fact!

No amount of online trolling will change this reality.

[Ben Dover]

Qurjiile make up facts as they go. Do you actually see the population density maps? Your section has very low human activity.

Qurjiile, now behave and do not derail the thread, do you want another karbaash? I dont want to hurt your feminine sensibilities but you are asking for it.

"Ma sidan baa qaran lugula wadaagaya? "

This will never get old

[Sharmarke91]

Qurjiile make up facts as they go. Do you actually see the population density maps? Your section has very low human activity.

Qurjiile, now behave and do not derail the thread, do you want another karbaash? I dont want to hurt your feminine sensibilities but you are asking for it.

"Ma sidan baa qaran lugula wadaagaya? "

This will never get old

Me feminine?

[Ben Dover]

Everyone saw your emotional plea and calaacal in the other thread , you could not help expose your feminine side.

Again, lets not derail this thread.

"Ma sidan baa qaran lugula wadaagaya? "

"Hadad rabtid inad kasbatid beelaha Hartiga taageridooda Somaliland in ay dhaqankan aad wadid ay sii fogaaynayan "