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X.Playa wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:00 pm
Xildiiid wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:29 pm Is the word 'cantuugay' alliteration or does it have a context describing the fate of the Gaadsan Mullah?
Cantuug is a when you gobble food without even chewing. In essence he means we ate the ogaden like one eats a piece of meat. The Gaadsan dir are allied with the ogaden and always fought along ogaden against isaaq. Even as recently as the 1980s. So during that battle the ciidagale didn't discriminate between ogaden and the Gaadsan dir. They were chewed.
are you sure Gaadsan fought Isaaq in the 1980s? I never heard of this before.
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X.Playa wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2017 3:16 pm
BestPlaya wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2017 3:02 pm
X.Playa wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:36 pm 1- Garisa ccording to the 2009 census, the town has a total population of 119,696.

A- Burao is the second largest city in Somaliland with a population of 288,211 according to the (2005) UN estimate.


2-Wardheer Based on figures from the Central Statistical Agency in 2005, this town has an estimated total population of 18,357,

The city of Gabiley has a population of around 79,564.[3] The broader Gabiley District has a total population of 135,000.

3- Based on figures from the Central Statistical Agency in 2007, Degehabur has an estimated total population of 30,027.

A- According to the 2005 UN population estimate of Somalia the total population of Erigavo (Ceerigaabo) city is 114,846 residents.


4- Godey According to the 1997 national census, the city's total population was 45,755 of whom 26,081 were males and 19,674 were females. The ethnic breakdown was 100% Somali,


A- As of 2005, Berbera city has an estimated population of 240,000 residents. Same UN population estimate 2005.


5- Aware Based on the 2007 Census conducted by the Central Statistical Agency of Ethiopia (CSA), this woreda has a total population of 96,011, . this is majority Isaaq town why even include it am puzzled!

6-Based on figures from the Central Statistical Agency in 2005, Kebri Dahar has an estimated total population of 100,191.

A- Harshin Based on the 2007 Census conducted by the Central Statistical Agency of Ethiopia (CSA), this woreda has a total population of 80,244,

7- Shilabo Based on 2005 figures from the Central Statistical Agency, Shilavo has an estimated total population of 7,239 of whom 3,877 are men and 3,362 are women.

A- Ainabo according to UN population estimate 2005. The city of Aynabo has a population of 35,702 residents.[

See how this claim of yours is getting silly? Why Daarood have to suffer constant humiliations for the sake of Faan?

The rest of the village you mentioned can't be even located on satellite lol
Heyy ,please stop this ridiculousness. How should l take serious the same UN which says Somaliland is 4.5M while 0.8M only are above 16years who got kaarka codbixinta and ready to vote in the upcoming election??
In all seriousness, How 1.2M hargeisa just managed to register 220K voters ? Or they never cared about the election?

Now Xplaya,those numbers are bogus .just confirm KM2 of those towns l listed and comeback here with the result.


I challenge you to do that.google maps.
Lets do google and satellites maps the burden of prove is on you since you began comparing sub clan villages with major Somaliland cities.

Prove to us how these villages fare in comparison don't just make wild claim substantiate your Daarood bravado.
Villages? lol...Go and do it for yourself..bcoz l have no qualms over what l wrote...
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BestPlaya wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2017 3:30 pm
X.Playa wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2017 3:16 pm
BestPlaya wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2017 3:02 pm

Heyy ,please stop this ridiculousness. How should l take serious the same UN which says Somaliland is 4.5M while 0.8M only are above 16years who got kaarka codbixinta and ready to vote in the upcoming election??
In all seriousness, How 1.2M hargeisa just managed to register 220K voters ? Or they never cared about the election?

Now Xplaya,those numbers are bogus .just confirm KM2 of those towns l listed and comeback here with the result.


I challenge you to do that.google maps.
Lets do google and satellites maps the burden of prove is on you since you began comparing sub clan villages with major Somaliland cities.

Prove to us how these villages fare in comparison don't just make wild claim substantiate your Daarood bravado.
Villages? lol...Go and do it for yourself..bcoz l have no qualms over what l wrote...
There you go again, if you can't backup your shot then don't parade it. You are fully aware you are making up foolish Baseless routine Daarood boast and you know you dare not use satellite images of these empty dusty Daarood villages.

Once put in the spot and took you for your proposition you scuttled away with the dumbest come back ever " oh I don't need to substantiate my bullshit, because I don't have qualms with my own bullshit "

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Great thread Xplaya, read through it, and also great job in putting 'BestPlaya' in his place, some darods seem to believe that land size = large population, but when most of that land expanse is desert, what does it mean?

Back to the topic, Xplaya, any tips for qurbajoogs like myself on how to learn to read and understand somali gabay? Anu af magaal un baan ku hadla, weliba afka ciyaal suuqiinta, Ileen ayaga baa ii bareen luqada somaaliga.
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ZubeirAwal wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:28 pm Great thread Xplaya, read through it, and also great job in putting 'BestPlaya' in his place, some darods seem to believe that land size = large population, but when most of that land expanse is desert, what does it mean?

Back to the topic, Xplaya, any tips for qurbajoogs like myself on how to learn to read and understand somali gabay? Anu af magaal un baan ku hadla, weliba afka ciyaal suuqiinta, Ileen ayaga baa ii bareen luqada somaaliga.
My educational backgrounds was Arabic and English. I never went to any Somali school. But my interest was history and literature, in particular Arabic poetry, later the western literature came along. After these two I looked closely to the Somali literature, problem was I could speak Somali but can't read or write it and to top it i wanted to learn how their poems were comparable to both English and Arabic poetry.

As recently as 1996 I would request Somalis to read these poems to me. Some I understood others were almost foreign.

Within few years I began to collect Somali poetry. Ill-educated Somalis use to tell me why are you collecting these old men yarn. But been educated outside the doomed Somali culture I knew how valuable and rare these vanishing poems are.

If you listen or a Somali poem once you might understand a word or two and get a general sense of the story behind it ( Somali poetry is a recorded history in a prose language) every poem has its historical contexts. The later comes naturally available once you persist.

Read read or listen and listen it will finally break its own code. Now I can tell just from mere listening to a historical poem with a theme if it was slightly altered. I caught the modification of one Dhulbahante the founder of golkhatumo.com. many time, and also the founder of Doollo.com an Ogaden before he fled to south Africa. I knew both of duo parasites.

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ZubeirAwal wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:28 pm Great thread Xplaya, read through it, and also great job in putting 'BestPlaya' in his place, some darods seem to believe that land size = large population, but when most of that land expanse is desert, what does it mean?

Back to the topic, Xplaya, any tips for qurbajoogs like myself on how to learn to read and understand somali gabay? Anu af magaal un baan ku hadla, weliba afka ciyaal suuqiinta, Ileen ayaga baa ii bareen luqada somaaliga.
Hhhh funny how did he put me in place.are you another delusional iidoor? lol

This Xplaya repeats over and over again the Habar Yoonis conquest of Doollo during Rayyad wars and he always writes The Faan poems of Yawle,Aflow and sometimes the calaacal poems of Ogaden poets such as Qaman Bulxan during the RAID ERA .But history is history .No one is Denying that.Habar Yoonis are ultimate warriors .Xplaya now,don't want admit that Ogaden reconquered Doollo with it seven wells all under the ownership of Ogaden. Walwaal,Camuud,Yucub,Ubataale,Wardheer,Danood are some of the famous wells that Makaahil lost to the HabarYoonis but they recaptured after Cali Dhuux recited his famous Gubaabo poem.At the same time ,Ree Haruun reconquered Harodigeed(dig)

Maxamad Cumar Dage said

Ogaden Doollo iyo Dig-iyo Durugsay Ceelkii dheh
Iidoor dallaalimo kawaa Doollo iyo Ciid dheh


That's history.HabarYoonis are now found north of Danood.

The myth about Hargeisa Population is debunked by the bestP.lol. 222,000 are above 16 years who who are registered to vote in Hargeisa town..now ,see below

Keny registered voters=19M X2.5=48M(,total population)

Smlnd registered voters=0.87MX2.5=2.17M(total pop.)

Hargeisa ==0.22MX2.5==0.55M or 550,000(Not 1.2M!)

Nfd+easligh(OG)-0.23X2.5==0.57M(slightly larger than Hargeisa population)

Now,SubeyrAwal ,please no qabyaalad here.poin out the main points that Xplaya 'put me in my place'..Ma gabayada faanka ah ee laiskaga dambeeyay???
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X.Playa wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2017 4:38 pm
BestPlaya wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2017 3:30 pm
X.Playa wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2017 3:16 pm

Lets do google and satellites maps the burden of prove is on you since you began comparing sub clan villages with major Somaliland cities.

Prove to us how these villages fare in comparison don't just make wild claim substantiate your Daarood bravado.
Villages? lol...Go and do it for yourself..bcoz l have no qualms over what l wrote...
There you go again, if you can't backup your shot then don't parade it. You are fully aware you are making up foolish Baseless routine Daarood boast and you know you dare not use satellite images of these empty dusty Daarood villages.

Once put in the spot and took you for your proposition you scuttled away with the dumbest come back ever " oh I don't need to substantiate my bullshit, because I don't have qualms with my own bullshit "

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I repeat go and confirm that by yourself if you doubt it.Except Hargeisa and Burco Ogaden towns in DDSI are larger than those in Somaliland. Ok know,And what 'facts' do you have to disapprove that my towns are larger than yours in term of Size(no bogus figures )

I will give you a hint.lol...The size ,in terms of KM2 of iidoor towns are readily available in Somalinet .Thanks to Abdikariin.Now ,go and search the size of Ogaden towns in DDSI because you're the one who doubts my sincere comparison. Do it by yourself. Okay
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Who is talking about minor Daarood subclan like Cagdheer. Maybe you were sleeping in the shift am talking about HY versus your made in Afweyne-land entire clan.

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Havoc wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2017 3:22 pm
X.Playa wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:00 pm
Xildiiid wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:29 pm Is the word 'cantuugay' alliteration or does it have a context describing the fate of the Gaadsan Mullah?
Cantuug is a when you gobble food without even chewing. In essence he means we ate the ogaden like one eats a piece of meat. The Gaadsan dir are allied with the ogaden and always fought along ogaden against isaaq. Even as recently as the 1980s. So during that battle the ciidagale didn't discriminate between ogaden and the Gaadsan dir. They were chewed.
are you sure Gaadsan fought Isaaq in the 1980s? I never heard of this before.
Ninkan Xplaya ah Run iyo been labada ka filo..But ,he is more informative than the average iidoor on Somalinet.
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X.Playa wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:28 pm Who is talking about minor Daarood subclan like Cagdheer. Maybe you were sleeping in the shift am talking about HY versus your made in Afweyne-land entire clan.

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Dont compare with ogadeen when cusmaan maxamuud settle in more land then the whole idoor :mrgreen:. Langaaabnimo waa loo dashaa, ciil uu dhimo.
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Ina Caruus was Oromo scholar(Oronada Caruusada LA dhoho) .He was killed along with Two Ree Cali Sheikhs Sayyid Cumar and Sheykh Ibrahim (AUN).

.Ciidagale didnt even spared the Ree AW Which includes XEER,GAADSAN and Shiikhaal.Some of the Shiikhal Mullahs who cursed the notorious Ciidagale before they were annihilated by Huwan was Sheykh Cumar.He said..
Casiisow adaan kuu cawdaye Ciidagale NAAFI
Allahayoow cir soon hooray iyo,caadba laga waayo.
Carrabkooda Allow kayeel 'Culimadi eednay!'


Waxaa ka dambeeyay hoog iyo baaba' Ciidagale kala kulmay Huwan.Habaarkii waadada Ree AW ayeey eedeen!
Waxaa ka dambeysay ineey Habar Jeclo iyo Sacad Muuse miciin bidaan!
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BestPlaya wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:18 am
Havoc wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2017 3:22 pm
X.Playa wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:00 pm

Cantuug is a when you gobble food without even chewing. In essence he means we ate the ogaden like one eats a piece of meat. The Gaadsan dir are allied with the ogaden and always fought along ogaden against isaaq. Even as recently as the 1980s. So during that battle the ciidagale didn't discriminate between ogaden and the Gaadsan dir. They were chewed.
are you sure Gaadsan fought Isaaq in the 1980s? I never heard of this before.
Ninkan Xplaya ah Run iyo been labada ka filo..But ,he is more informative than the average iidoor on Somalinet.
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Xplaya why you beating on doqonkii Ogaden like that?

He is your #1 fan :lol:
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Ben Dover wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:46 am Xplaya why you beating on doqonkii Ogaden like that?

He is your #1 fan :lol:
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Hello Ben, How are you doing 8-)

..I'm not his fan but rather I'm a fan of Somali history and this guy has a lot to share with us though a bit distorted .just that .
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BestPlaya wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:17 am Hello Ben, How are you doing 8-)

..I'm not his fan but rather I'm a fan of Somali history and this guy has a lot to share with us though a bit distorted .just that .
Dont deny it, you are Xplaya's stan.

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