Official district results?

[abdikarim86]

Xplaya , this debate wa weeyan bila micno. sabato wwaa clear, just like riyaale kahin rigged the 2003 election for udub. this time silaanyo riged the election for his xisbi. silaanyo iyo seleban gaal macal hadey 100 jir gaadhan qablyaad kama dhamaadan. marka udaa ciyaale niyad ha ku dhistaan iney badiyan. even markan jarneey the tele communication , marki waan ogaaney , this payback for udub time. dib male le ee ninke samira baa guusha helya ugu dambeyn.

Utterly pathetic statement right here.

You lost - You did not put together a good enough alliance believing in your arrogance your clan make up the majority in SL.

The voting patterns and reasons for voting were bad - Laakin it has been proved beyond doubt this was the most transparent election ever.

To compare it to the 2003 is fundamentally dishonest on your part.

[abdikarim86]

I assume you are talking about Gacan Libaax?

Gacan Libaax includes: Cabaaye (A Mikaahiil/Sacad Muuse neighbourhood), Half of 150ka (Nuux Ismaaciil and Ciise Muuse), Sheekh Madar and Laba Nuux (Ciise Muuse/Sacad Muuse mix), Daami (Gabooye), Sheekh Nuur (Poor families from all clans), Sheekh Mubaarik (Poor SM families).

Every single accusation you’ve made has had an explanation or was proved false.

I suspect you know all of this.

It begs the question when you become a fundementally dishonest man, or have you always been the dishonest HY extremist
hiding under a veneer of respectability?

Look at this total madness are you telling us now sacad muse are majority in Gacan Libaax? Ciise muse lived in Daami that we know but since when sacad muse became a majority in even Gacan Libaax?

You are something else - You distort what I've said and ignored other points and then proceed to answer a distorted version of my statement.

Let me break it down to you old man!

Point 1 - I did NOT state that Sacad Muuse are the majority in Gacan Libaax

Point 2 - The reason why Kulmiye got 10,000 votes out of 23,000 in Gacan Libaax was probably DUE TO (Seeing as this election was entirely along clan lines - Worst campaign ever!) the fact that Gacan Libaax contains Cabaaye, Sheekh Madar, Laba Nuux, half of 150ka, Sheekh Mubaarik, Daami and Sheekh Nuur (Aka Kililka Shanaad).

Point 3 - Those neighbourhoods I've mentioned are mostly Sacad Muuse, Ciise Muuse and Gabooye, Seeing as the election was clan based (Not condoning it - Clannism is at its worst ever) this explains why Kulmiye did OK in Gacan Libaax.

Point 4 - THEREFORE Gacan Libaax is NOT entirely HY, like you and your HY extremist friends have claimed here and Kulmiye did not steal votes from a "HY district" - Another nail in the coffin of your many bloody conspiracy theories.

Point 5 - Here is a map where somebody has roughly tried to demarcate and point out neighbourhoods in H-town (Probably has a lot of inaccuracies - But it is a start).

Cabaaye, Sheekh Mubaarik, Sheekh Nuur (Kililka Shanaad) and Beertii Aw Aadan are shown - All these places are in Gacan Libaax.



http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=9.572 ... h=hargeisa

[abdikarim86]

I think the full results of the polling station has been released but i think it didnt reach the media for some reason, I have the maroodi jeex polling station results though, i uploaded it to my drive,i will remove it soon,so get a grab of it fast

Thanks Ramzy!

As I stated - Cabaaye, Sheekh Nuur, Sheekh Mubaarik, Beertii Aw Adaan (150ka), Sheekh Madar etc. are all in Gacan Libaax

[skywalker25]

Xplaya , this debate wa weeyan bila micno. sabato wwaa clear, just like riyaale kahin rigged the 2003 election for udub. this time silaanyo riged the election for his xisbi. silaanyo iyo seleban gaal macal hadey 100 jir gaadhan qablyaad kama dhamaadan. marka udaa ciyaale niyad ha ku dhistaan iney badiyan. even markan jarneey the tele communication , marki waan ogaaney , this payback for udub time. dib male le ee ninke samira baa guusha helya ugu dambeyn.

Don't be sore loser bro. You're one of the most reasonable posters on this forum and represent your tribe very well.

The election was lost from the moment two major tribes decided to pool their resources full together.

The leadership of Wadani failed strategically to offset this union, instead they placed all their eggs on picking votes from smaller tribes. This was a bad calculation which resulted in these tribes being half in half out.

[xisaabiye1]

80k voters from awdal alone, out of nearly 600k turnout. Togdheer only near 120k . That alone should give HJ & HY perspective. If anything this shows the difference in political aptitude between galbeed and central+ bari. We talk about SL a lot as isaaq but GB are the only politically active landers, numbers don't lie . If your main degaamo couldn't bring out numbers why complain about anywhere else

[abdikarim86]

873,000 registered - 702,000 picked up their cards.

Only 555,000 voted. That is a turnout of only 63%. It seems Many people are not interested in politics.

It doesn't help we that most of our leaders are shit!

[cheifaqilbari]

here we go again, no garaxjis live in xafada HA ee hargeisa, but suddenlya all sacmuse have suddenly moved to deenta garxajis. and even more surprising , gabiley , the small farming tuulo have more 1000,00 people living ther and . the world have gone , and i wanna get off. its clear that ina awsaciid, silaanyo , selebaan gaal iyo zamzam corrupted this election laakin do not come and insult our intelligence. meeshan waa afrika iney dolwada ku shubeyso waa caaaidi wan taan sugeyney ee warka kle ma hesa . its clear the lunatics have taking over the asylum.
let make clear for u muse and garaxjis wey iska yaqaanan. waa wiil iyo abtigi. waan is dhalay waney is dilaan meelna kam taagay. 65000 voting for one xisib , macal daki dhimtey baa codey.

on xisbi wadani, its clear for u and for ummada somaliland. that we won the election , cirro is most softspoken calool furan, aqoonyan in the this election . his adab , deen his politics have united all of somaliland.even people in jabuti, moqisho , nfd, and caalamka were congratulted us for brining a forward thinking , candidate who could unite all somalilanders and make trade and agreements with neighbors. he is a candidate that work for economic future of all somalilanders instead of qabylaad . we won the moral victory , and that will always be our political legacy.
we do not want our country to burn , as we know in our heart cadaalad will win one day.
how can jeeegan of Sacmuse and Hj be bigger than the rest of somaliland . isbehaeysi samaaron supported wadani, all of arab all of cidagle, all of hy all of dhul and war plus alot of some hj. want u people want is to take us back to 1980s well today is 2017 30 years after dagaal snm iyo afweyne. the youth need more than dalka la xoreeyey. what people need is jobs, marriage,a lacag in thier pockets and a future. not 100 year old saleban gaal and his generation in our face . how can a man born in 1930 or 1940 and a young person born in 1990s related ?. silaanyo and his generation.
he and his buddies should have packed their stuff adn gone like the soviet union .
they are the reason for the hight number of young people leaving this country.

[X.Playa]

I assume you are talking about Gacan Libaax?

Gacan Libaax includes: Cabaaye (A Mikaahiil/Sacad Muuse neighbourhood), Half of 150ka (Nuux Ismaaciil and Ciise Muuse), Sheekh Madar and Laba Nuux (Ciise Muuse/Sacad Muuse mix), Daami (Gabooye), Sheekh Nuur (Poor families from all clans), Sheekh Mubaarik (Poor SM families).

Every single accusation you’ve made has had an explanation or was proved false.

I suspect you know all of this.

It begs the question when you become a fundementally dishonest man, or have you always been the dishonest HY extremist
hiding under a veneer of respectability?

Look at this total madness are you telling us now sacad muse are majority in Gacan Libaax? Ciise muse lived in Daami that we know but since when sacad muse became a majority in even Gacan Libaax?

You are something else - You distort what I've said and ignored other points and then proceed to answer a distorted version of my statement.

Let me break it down to you old man!

Point 1 - I did NOT state that Sacad Muuse are the majority in Gacan Libaax

Point 2 - The reason why Kulmiye got 10,000 votes out of 23,000 in Gacan Libaax was probably DUE TO (Seeing as this election was entirely along clan lines - Worst campaign ever!) the fact that Gacan Libaax contains Cabaaye, Sheekh Madar, Laba Nuux, half of 150ka, Sheekh Mubaarik, Daami and Sheekh Nuur (Aka Kililka Shanaad).

Point 3 - Those neighbourhoods I've mentioned are mostly Sacad Muuse, Ciise Muuse and Gabooye, Seeing as the election was clan based (Not condoning it - Clannism is at its worst ever) this explains why Kulmiye did OK in Gacan Libaax.

Point 4 - THEREFORE Gacan Libaax is NOT entirely HY, like you and your HY extremist friends have claimed here and Kulmiye did not steal votes from a "HY district" - Another nail in the coffin of your many bloody conspiracy theories.

Point 5 - Here is a map where somebody has roughly tried to demarcate and point out neighbourhoods in H-town (Probably has a lot of inaccuracies - But it is a start).

Cabaaye, Sheekh Mubaarik, Sheekh Nuur (Kililka Shanaad) and Beertii Aw Aadan are shown - All these places are in Gacan Libaax.



http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=9.572 ... h=hargeisa

It doesn't take a genius to question these outrageous numbers.

Gacanlibaax the traditional sections of HY has more Sacad Muuse then HY its ridiculous. 10k sacad muuse. And 13k HY. If we factor out the Gabooye from Gacalibaax at least several thousands which all voted Wadani the result is a Sacad Muuse majority in Gacanlibaax.

Which is total bull shit. Are you telling us the same HY who elected the same numbers of Hargaysa councils as the habar awal are all of sudden outnumbered by the habar awal 4 to 1? More then 30k habar awal vote vs less 10k HY vote lool.

Sxb miyaynu isku ciyaaraynaa? Do you take us like the ciidagale buffoon..

If you look closely at neighborhood votes the ciidagale and Arab have more vote then the entire HY lool.

[X.Playa]

Xplaya , this debate wa weeyan bila micno. sabato wwaa clear, just like riyaale kahin rigged the 2003 election for udub. this time silaanyo riged the election for his xisbi. silaanyo iyo seleban gaal macal hadey 100 jir gaadhan qablyaad kama dhamaadan. marka udaa ciyaale niyad ha ku dhistaan iney badiyan. even markan jarneey the tele communication , marki waan ogaaney , this payback for udub time. dib male le ee ninke samira baa guusha helya ugu dambeyn.

Don't be sore loser bro. You're one of the most reasonable posters on this forum and represent your tribe very well.

The election was lost from the moment two major tribes decided to pool their resources full together.

The leadership of Wadani failed strategically to offset this union, instead they placed all their eggs on picking votes from smaller tribes. This was a bad calculation which resulted in these tribes being half in half out.

The leadership of Wadani are not doctors who cure tribal sickness. Surely you can't blame HJ traditional incurable hate on Wadani party.

[SuldaanMaplesyrup]

It doesn't take a genius to question these outrageous numbers.

Gacanlibaax the traditional sections of HY has more Sacad Muuse then HY its ridiculous. 10k sacad muuse. And 13k HY. If we factor out the Gabooye from Gacalibaax at least several thousands which all voted Wadani the result is a Sacad Muuse majority in Gacanlibaax.

Which is total bull shit. Are you telling us the same HY who elected the same numbers of Hargaysa councils as the habar awal are all of sudden outnumbered by the habar awal 4 to 1? More then 30k habar awal vote vs less 10k HY vote lool.

Sxb miyaynu isku ciyaaraynaa? Do you take us like the ciidagale buttons.

Gabooye were split





From these polling stations: 518 Kulmiye, 911 Wadani

[abdikarim86]

here we go again, no garaxjis live in xafada HA ee hargeisa, but suddenlya all sacmuse have suddenly moved to deenta garxajis. and even more surprising , gabiley , the small farming tuulo have more 1000,00 people living ther and . the world have gone , and i wanna get off. its clear that ina awsaciid, silaanyo , selebaan gaal iyo zamzam corrupted this election laakin do not come and insult our intelligence. meeshan waa afrika iney dolwada ku shubeyso waa caaaidi wan taan sugeyney ee warka kle ma hesa . its clear the lunatics have taking over the asylum.
let make clear for u muse and garaxjis wey iska yaqaanan. waa wiil iyo abtigi. waan is dhalay waney is dilaan meelna kam taagay. 65000 voting for one xisib.

on xisbi wadani, its clear for u and for ummada somaliland. that we won the election , cirro is most softspoken calool furan, aqoonyan in the this election . his adab , deen his politics have united all of somaliland.even people in jabuti, moqisho , nfd, and caalamka were congratulted us for brining a forward thinking , candidate who could unite all somalilanders and make trade and agreements with neighbors. he is a candidate that work for economic future of all somalilanders instead of qabylaad . we won the moral victory , and that will always be our political legacy.
we do not want our country to burn , as we know in our heart cadaalad will win one day.

Another soppy statement dripping with emotion, cuqdad, and outright lies.

Gabiley is a district - It is not the town only you bloody fool - As it contains Wajaale, Arabsiyo and numerous little villages, its density
is there for all to see in Google Earth. And who said it had 100,000 voters. Barely 46,000 voted - That is 3 neighborhoods of Bristol.

Nobody and I mean NOBODY made the statement that There are no HY in the HA side of town and there are lots of HA in the HY side of town.

The only way you could make that utterly stupid statement is if you truly believe Gacan Libaax is entirely HY. It would be if it did not contain Cabaaye, Sh.Mubaarik, Sh. Nuur, Sh. Madar, Daami etc.

Putting out random names does NOT change any facts on the ground. You did not put together an alliance, as you believed your clan make up half the SL population - And only when it was too late did you attempt an alliance, the fact that Samaroon, Ciidagale and Arab were split in their votes prooves this.

The election was FREE and FAIR - The reasons for voting and that unholy alliance concocted in Burco were terrible.

You need to face that - And stop with the focking emotion and caadifad you've put yourself in.

[X.Playa]

It doesn't take a genius to question these outrageous numbers.

Gacanlibaax the traditional sections of HY has more Sacad Muuse then HY its ridiculous. 10k sacad muuse. And 13k HY. If we factor out the Gabooye from Gacalibaax at least several thousands which all voted Wadani the result is a Sacad Muuse majority in Gacanlibaax.

Which is total bull shit. Are you telling us the same HY who elected the same numbers of Hargaysa councils as the habar awal are all of sudden outnumbered by the habar awal 4 to 1? More then 30k habar awal vote vs less 10k HY vote lool.

Sxb miyaynu isku ciyaaraynaa? Do you take us like the ciidagale buttons.

Gabooye were split





From these polling stations: 518 Kulmiye, 911 Wadani

Still it doesn't change anything if the total vote in Gacanlibaax was 24k with almost half habar awal and 26 June 24k all habar awal that's 4 times as much habar awal vote then HY vote.

Also compare the Arab and Ciidagale vote and you will see even these small tribes outnumbered HY in these result.

[X.Playa]

Gabilay is total fraud more sacad muuse voted in that tiny village then in Hargaysa complete madness. But the Maryo Alool are beyond reason.

38,000 sacad muuse at sub-clan vote in Gabilay more vote then all Habar Awal vote in Hargaysa combined

[SuldaanMaplesyrup]

It doesn't take a genius to question these outrageous numbers.

Gacanlibaax the traditional sections of HY has more Sacad Muuse then HY its ridiculous. 10k sacad muuse. And 13k HY. If we factor out the Gabooye from Gacalibaax at least several thousands which all voted Wadani the result is a Sacad Muuse majority in Gacanlibaax.

Which is total bull shit. Are you telling us the same HY who elected the same numbers of Hargaysa councils as the habar awal are all of sudden outnumbered by the habar awal 4 to 1? More then 30k habar awal vote vs less 10k HY vote lool.

Sxb miyaynu isku ciyaaraynaa? Do you take us like the ciidagale buttons.

Gabooye were split





From these polling stations: 518 Kulmiye, 911 Wadani

Still it doesn't change anything if the total vote in Gacanlibaax was 24k with almost half habar awal and 26 June 24k all habar awal that's 4 times as much habar awal vote then HY vote.

Also compare the Arab and Ciidagale vote and you will see even these small tribes outnumbered HY in these result.

You said all Gabooye voted for Wadani, which I showed was factually incorrect.

The problem is you assume every Isxaaq/HY in Gacan Libaax voted for Wadani. Have you not considered that there may have been some that voted for Kulmiye? Especially considering how they’ve eaten good for the past 7 years with various cabinet positions?

While voting numbers don’t necessarily = total population, HY outnumbering Ciidagale or Arab in Hargeisa is

[abdikarim86]

It doesn't take a genius to question these outrageous numbers.

Gacanlibaax the traditional sections of HY has more Sacad Muuse then HY its ridiculous. 10k sacad muuse. And 13k HY. If we factor out the Gabooye from Gacalibaax at least several thousands which all voted Wadani the result is a Sacad Muuse majority in Gacanlibaax.

Which is total bull shit. Are you telling us the same HY who elected the same numbers of Hargaysa councils as the habar awal are all of sudden outnumbered by the habar awal 4 to 1? More then 30k habar awal vote vs less 10k HY vote lool.

Sxb miyaynu isku ciyaaraynaa? Do you take us like the ciidagale buffoon..

If you look closely at neighborhood votes the ciidagale and Arab have more vote then the entire HY lool.

You argue for the sake of it - You must be willing to take certain facts on board before we can proceed, otherwise we would be going in circles.

Who said anything about 10K SM voters?

Point 1 - You must accept that Cabaaye, Sh. Nuur Sh. Madar, Sh. Mubaarik, Ina Aw Aadaan, Daami etc. are in Gacan Libaax. The SL goverment considers these areas to be part of Gacan Libaax.

Point 2 - These areas are thought of as not being HY neighbourhoods (HA and Gabooye mix from what I have heard/experienced) - I have no proof other than anecdotal evidence and the election results (Where the votes were largely along clan lines).

Point 3 - These areas are quite populated as that Wikimapia link to H-town and its neighbourhoods shows.

A final point

873,000 registered - I believe there were very few double registrations BUT only 555,000 voted. This is a turnout of 63%
Is it not plausible that some areas voted more than other areas? Which may explain some of the discrepancies.