Oromos were divided just like Somalis-take a peak

[Khalid Ali]

Ciise and afar share djibouti afar are minority in djibouti ciise and other Somalis have the right to live any where they want in Djibouti. Ciise is a Somali country it has a Somali charesteric culture. And afars are Close group related to Somalis if you you to talk about expansion. Oromo took allot of land from Somalis WE want those lands back one day we will push you back and retake our lands.

[St8OuttaDirree]

Ciise and afar share djibouti afar are minority in djibouti ciise and other Somalis have the right to live any where they want in Djibouti. Ciise is a Somali country it has a Somali charesteric culture. And afars are Close group related to Somalis if you you to talk about expansion. Oromo took allot of land from Somalis WE want those lands back one day we will push you back and retake our lands.

Fallback, we did not take anyones land.

The debate is in regards to issa and Afar relations.
Nothing to do with Oromo and Somali.

We have our land, you have yours. Keep it this way. We may dispute time to time, but that is only natural when we have a border of cross breed flipflopping clans.

You deal with the Afar as you like. Issa and Afar both have rights to Jabuuti as that is their land. No reason we will ever get involved because we have our own problems to deal with, let alone warra alaga.

Oromia is our concern and interest, and that is it.

Me myself love the Somali people, and have nothing but respect for you. But your relations have nothing to do with us, unless it’s an issue we both are part of. We recently had innocent Somalis killed in Hararge for no reason. And we’ve had innocent Oromo killed and displaced as well, all political tactics to divide us.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Oromo Is not homogeneous group. Oromos differ in culture and tradition more than any other cushitic group. Because oromos captured allot of different ethnic groups and assimilated them. Besides the term galla was given to oromos by somali particularly isaaq. Because we couldnt place oromos in a religious cultural group. So we called you gaala madow. The black pagans. The habashas pickt it up later from us and started calling you gallas and those refused to become amhara and Christian. Were banned from Abyssinia altogether and fled into Sudan or into SomalI territories

Khalid if Oromos is not homogenous wachis can argue that even Isaaq is not homogenous. Because the Isaaq nation is comprised of Abesha,Dir,Arab,Oromo and midgan groups having integrated.

You must be mistaking Idoor for your hunter-gatherer Darood tribes. Awliyahan was it? Or was it Biciidyahan?. Isaaq are geeljires and merchants. We don't have midgaan and ormo hunters in our tribe. Isaaq has only one origin and one aim.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Ciise and afar share djibouti afar are minority in djibouti ciise and other Somalis have the right to live any where they want in Djibouti. Ciise is a Somali country it has a Somali charesteric culture. And afars are Close group related to Somalis if you you to talk about expansion. Oromo took allot of land from Somalis WE want those lands back one day we will push you back and retake our lands.

Fallback, we did not take anyones land.

The debate is in regards to issa and Afar relations.
Nothing to do with Oromo and Somali.

We have our land, you have yours. Keep it this way. We may dispute time to time, but that is only natural when we have a border of cross breed flipflopping clans.

You deal with the Afar as you like. Issa and Afar both have rights to Jabuuti as that is their land. No reason we will ever get involved because we have our own problems to deal with, let alone warra alaga.

Oromia is our concern and interest, and that is it.

Me myself love the Somali people, and have nothing but respect for you. But your relations have nothing to do with us, unless it’s an issue we both are part of. We recently had innocent Somalis killed in Hararge for no reason. And we’ve had innocent Oromo killed and displaced as well, all political tactics to divide us.

No offense, but you don't know what you're talking about. Somalia traditional homeland stretched from the Indian ocean to the Bale mountains. Ormos are newcomers from southern Ethiopia/northern Kenya. You guys took advantage of the exhaustion after the Muslim-Christian wars in the middle ages and migrated north into central and northern Ethiopia. That's why you guys are numbering 40 million. That's why Boranas are dark and Nilotic looking, while the northern oromos look habashi. You've absorbed land and people that don't belong to you.

[Waachis]

Ciise and afar share djibouti afar are minority in djibouti ciise and other Somalis have the right to live any where they want in Djibouti. Ciise is a Somali country it has a Somali charesteric culture. And afars are Close group related to Somalis if you you to talk about expansion. Oromo took allot of land from Somalis WE want those lands back one day we will push you back and retake our lands.

I know issa are majority in Djibouti but they don't share power at all according to Afar. I hope things are better now. Somalis have multiple countries and can't even share one in which their afar cousins make up 30 percent of? How fair is that?
I just always respect them because when tplf paid issa to hunt down oromo refugees, afar protected those oromo and that put them in danger too. Oromo always remember those who helped us and will return the favor when we get more power in Ethiopia.
To be honest, you gotta respect oromo. Habasha used the Christian card and got guns from Europe, somali used the Muslim card and got guns from the Turkish before, oromo had no outside help and held their own against both groups who had guns and cannon, all we had were spears, Shields, horses, and a fearless heart.
Oromo never depended on outsiders to win wars rather we had our own armies and our own people only as support. We conquered land just like everyone else did at the time, no? Somalis always brag about their expansion skills, which is fine, but why cry if someone else conquers too? That's life and Somalis would have kept going to Tanzania if the opportunity presented itself, lol.....

[Jabuutawi]

Wachi, ignorance is a bliss at times but you have become a nuisance who doesn't know when to stop until you get whipped into submission like a good uncle Tom. As I said before, stay in your Dinka lane and see to it that your local affairs in Jumboland are in order before you delve into issues above your pay grade.

I know issa are majority in Djibouti but they don't share power at all according to Afar.

Who are these ungrateful Afars? Have you even been to Djibouti?

Djibouti government is split in half (50/50%). Afars refused to share with others and Isse shared their seats with other Somalis, Arabs and even a Habashi or two.

Do you follow thus far?

There are more Afar officials than Isse in the government. The PM is an Afar; Parliament Speaker is an Afar; Minister of Transportation is an Afar; The Defense Minister is an Afar. Fact is half of the ministers are Afars, and half of the parliamentarians are Afars.

If these uppity Afars do not stop with their disinformation, they will soon regret they ever lived in Djibouti. The only country they have any meaningful governance. Ask them if they want to trade places with their cousins in Eritrea or Ethiopia.

And who the hell are you to tell us how to run our country? Yeah, we live deep into Awash RIver and neither Afars nor your sorry Galla ass can do much about it.

Speaking of stooges, aren't your clan the epitome of capitulation by waving the white flag without Minelik firing one shot. Eunuchs!

[St8OuttaDirree]

Ciise and afar share djibouti afar are minority in djibouti ciise and other Somalis have the right to live any where they want in Djibouti. Ciise is a Somali country it has a Somali charesteric culture. And afars are Close group related to Somalis if you you to talk about expansion. Oromo took allot of land from Somalis WE want those lands back one day we will push you back and retake our lands.

Fallback, we did not take anyones land.

The debate is in regards to issa and Afar relations.
Nothing to do with Oromo and Somali.

We have our land, you have yours. Keep it this way. We may dispute time to time, but that is only natural when we have a border of cross breed flipflopping clans.

You deal with the Afar as you like. Issa and Afar both have rights to Jabuuti as that is their land. No reason we will ever get involved because we have our own problems to deal with, let alone warra alaga.

Oromia is our concern and interest, and that is it.

Me myself love the Somali people, and have nothing but respect for you. But your relations have nothing to do with us, unless it’s an issue we both are part of. We recently had innocent Somalis killed in Hararge for no reason. And we’ve had innocent Oromo killed and displaced as well, all political tactics to divide us.

No offense, but you don't know what you're talking about. Somalia traditional homeland stretched from the Indian ocean to the Bale mountains. Ormos are newcomers from southern Ethiopia/northern Kenya. You guys took advantage of the exhaustion after the Muslim-Christian wars in the middle ages and migrated north into central and northern Ethiopia. That's why you guys are numbering 40 million. That's why Boranas are dark and Nilotic looking, while the northern oromos look habashi. You've absorbed land and people that don't belong to you.

Every Oromo clan originated from Mada Walaabu, which is current day Bale. The Borana moved south to the Ethiopian Kenyan Border area, Orma south east, Mecca west, Tulama central and Bareentuma east and north. Yes we’ve moved and conquered these lands. Same way Somalis pushed and conquered the Orma/ warday etc.

As nomads, you tend to move for grazing lands. Somalis a native to northern Somalia. The rest has been conquered through movement. Your population was not large enough to live that distance and be native to that amount of land.

You rightfully own the land you have now, and so do we.

As you stated, today’s Oromos have a high amount of assimilated people. Meaning these people are native to their land, but have had a shift in culture and language.

[Waachis]

Wachi, ignorance is a bliss at times but you have become a nuisance who doesn't know when to stop until you get whipped into submission like a good uncle Tom. As I said before, stay in your Dinka lane and see to it that your local affairs in Jumboland are in order before you delve into issues above your pay grade.

I know issa are majority in Djibouti but they don't share power at all according to Afar.

Who are these ungrateful Afars? Have you even been to Djibouti?

Djibouti government is split in half (50/50%). Afars refused to share with others and Isse shared their seats with other Somalis, Arabs and even a Habashi or two.

Do you follow thus far?

There are more Afar officials than Isse in the government. The PM is an Afar; Parliament Speaker is an Afar; Minister of Transportation is an Afar; The Defense Minister is an Afar. Fact is half of the ministers are Afars, and half of the parliamentarians are Afars.

If these uppity Afars do not stop with their disinformation, they will soon regret they ever lived in Djibouti. The only country they have any meaningful governance. Ask them if they want to trade places with their cousins in Eritrea or Ethiopia.

And who the hell are you to tell us how to run our country? Yeah, we live deep into Awash RIver and neither Afars nor your sorry Galla ass can do much about it.

Speaking of stooges, aren't your clan the epitome of capitulation by waving the white flag without Minelik firing one shot. Eunuchs!

I hope that's true..
Why are issa still expanding.
What is lost by us today can be regained tomorrow.
Ethiopia and Eritrea are bound to make peace again and resume using their assab and massawa ports. Plus Berbera and port Sudan. Djibouti will no longer be able to hold us hostage and we'll be able to help the afar. The French and Americans won't do shit either.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tesfan ... -issa/amp/

https://www.africaintelligence.com/ion/ ... 189344-art

https://ecadforum.com/2014/06/04/the-is ... ash-river/

and the macca thought they were submitting to another oromo and they thought he was building an oromo empire. there's literally proof that the macca only listened to Gobana Dacce the Oromo general of Menelik.
plus in exchange for autonomy, it wasn't a bad deal, they unwittingly were uniting warring oromo clans into one Empire or country. was there a centralized Somalia before Europeans came? no. you had separate sultanates, kingdoms, etc, but not a centralized state that governed all the lands Somalis inhabit.
the Europeans administered you as centralized states, with defined borders, and then eventually you guys United British Somaliand and Italian Somalia as one.

[Django]

Oromo Is not homogeneous group. Oromos differ in culture and tradition more than any other cushitic group. Because oromos captured allot of different ethnic groups and assimilated them. Besides the term galla was given to oromos by somali particularly isaaq. Because we couldnt place oromos in a religious cultural group. So we called you gaala madow. The black pagans. The habashas pickt it up later from us and started calling you gallas and those refused to become amhara and Christian. Were banned from Abyssinia altogether and fled into Sudan or into SomalI territories

Khalid if Oromos is not homogenous wachis can argue that even Isaaq is not homogenous. Because the Isaaq nation is comprised of Abesha,Dir,Arab,Oromo and midgan groups having integrated.

You must be mistaking Idoor for your hunter-gatherer Darood tribes. Awliyahan was it? Or was it Biciidyahan?. Isaaq are geeljires and merchants. We don't have midgaan and ormo hunters in our tribe. Isaaq has only one origin and one aim.

I was talking about bucur baceyr and Guraages.