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[quote="Mochatanya"]Back in the days of the Prophet, 9 year olds had the mentality and maturity of 20 year old. Some will say 'But Aysha played with a doll'... So what? That was the entertainment of young ladies in those days. [quote]
Playing with dolls is STILL something children do, NOT mature 20 year old women. So what gives?
Aisha was a child both mentally and physically in the days of the Mohammed. Humans were weaker, smaller and slower physically back those days then they are today. A fact amply supported by every record-breaking feats achieved by athletes in the olympics. In every olympic event, new track & field and weight lifting records are set. Humans of today wear bigger shoes and larger clothes then they did 100 years ago. All the result of better diet and health care.
The only difference between the times of Mohammed and the present is the value placed on children. The independent variable being life expectancy for children. Children didn't seldom survive childhood. Consequently families had more children then today and children had to earn their living during their childhood. The chances of them reaching adulthood were very low. They would be employed to do work earn the family some income or be married off to some1. This view of children is still true in the third world, where child marriages are still the norm.
So you are right, Mohammed's marriage to Aisha at age 6 wasn't something unusual for its time. It was common occurance for his time for a common man. Not a 'prophet' of God for all times. Which is what he was. That I never disagreed with.
[quote] Only because we are Muslim, the chosen people, we are constantly harrassed, when our religion was the one who gave you friggin' idiots right in the first place. You would have still been burying your baby girls and inheriting your mothers had our religion not come to exist. Be grateful.[/quote]
What rights are you talking about? With the exception of ending infanticide, I'm hard pressed to find anything Islam 'gave' to women (if that can be considered a right that is).
Playing with dolls is STILL something children do, NOT mature 20 year old women. So what gives?
Aisha was a child both mentally and physically in the days of the Mohammed. Humans were weaker, smaller and slower physically back those days then they are today. A fact amply supported by every record-breaking feats achieved by athletes in the olympics. In every olympic event, new track & field and weight lifting records are set. Humans of today wear bigger shoes and larger clothes then they did 100 years ago. All the result of better diet and health care.
The only difference between the times of Mohammed and the present is the value placed on children. The independent variable being life expectancy for children. Children didn't seldom survive childhood. Consequently families had more children then today and children had to earn their living during their childhood. The chances of them reaching adulthood were very low. They would be employed to do work earn the family some income or be married off to some1. This view of children is still true in the third world, where child marriages are still the norm.
So you are right, Mohammed's marriage to Aisha at age 6 wasn't something unusual for its time. It was common occurance for his time for a common man. Not a 'prophet' of God for all times. Which is what he was. That I never disagreed with.
[quote] Only because we are Muslim, the chosen people, we are constantly harrassed, when our religion was the one who gave you friggin' idiots right in the first place. You would have still been burying your baby girls and inheriting your mothers had our religion not come to exist. Be grateful.[/quote]
What rights are you talking about? With the exception of ending infanticide, I'm hard pressed to find anything Islam 'gave' to women (if that can be considered a right that is).
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[quote]So you are right, Mohammed's marriage to Aisha at age 6 wasn't something unusual for its time. It was common occurance for his time for a common man. Not a 'prophet' of God for all times. Which is what he was. That I never disagreed with. [/quote]
Don dijibouti, my dear, according to your above a statement, i take it, living in a wahabi inspired muslim world as we have today, that the custom of the prophet is considered sunni, and the "way of life " now how can you tell me that the man was behaving properly for his time, if men of all time are to mimick his good behavior? considering the popularity of his hadiths(the so called hearsay collections of Bukhari and friends)
....as for a fact, the prophet spoke only words of god, any custom or personal behavior was basic human behavior, what he did in his life was naration from those not close to him, all 4 caliphas forbade any wriiten text claiming the prophet's habits and tendencies(if you look back in history, all hadith circulation and collection began after the 3rd caliphy) becauseTHEY ARE ALL VOID AND FULL OF CONTRADITION and there was to be no other teachings contradicting & competing with the holy quran. The most credible hadiths are those written by a man born 200 years after his death( Bukhari).
If we base all our knowlegde about the prophet on some sayings by random losers from turkey and aboard, we risk our foundation of faith.
...while human societies change sociopathical tendencies rather quickly, and while pediphile societies die off and give way to homosexuals and other bizare practices, it is in no way possible to claim that the prophet practiced such customs.
.....just keep that in mind religious masses of confused islam.
Don dijibouti, my dear, according to your above a statement, i take it, living in a wahabi inspired muslim world as we have today, that the custom of the prophet is considered sunni, and the "way of life " now how can you tell me that the man was behaving properly for his time, if men of all time are to mimick his good behavior? considering the popularity of his hadiths(the so called hearsay collections of Bukhari and friends)
....as for a fact, the prophet spoke only words of god, any custom or personal behavior was basic human behavior, what he did in his life was naration from those not close to him, all 4 caliphas forbade any wriiten text claiming the prophet's habits and tendencies(if you look back in history, all hadith circulation and collection began after the 3rd caliphy) becauseTHEY ARE ALL VOID AND FULL OF CONTRADITION and there was to be no other teachings contradicting & competing with the holy quran. The most credible hadiths are those written by a man born 200 years after his death( Bukhari).
If we base all our knowlegde about the prophet on some sayings by random losers from turkey and aboard, we risk our foundation of faith.

...while human societies change sociopathical tendencies rather quickly, and while pediphile societies die off and give way to homosexuals and other bizare practices, it is in no way possible to claim that the prophet practiced such customs.
.....just keep that in mind religious masses of confused islam.
Bismillah,
Yaa Akhii The Don of Djibouti,
It is un healthy to respond back and forth to the worthless outcasted kaafir. For the reason that they are nothing but Irrelevant, dump and deaf who don't see the light of the righteounes. It is the better for the dignitory believers to ignore such group.
May Allah SWT guide the lost souls to the righteous path.
Wa Billaahi Towfiiq
Yaa Akhii The Don of Djibouti,
It is un healthy to respond back and forth to the worthless outcasted kaafir. For the reason that they are nothing but Irrelevant, dump and deaf who don't see the light of the righteounes. It is the better for the dignitory believers to ignore such group.
May Allah SWT guide the lost souls to the righteous path.
Wa Billaahi Towfiiq
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Wallaal Thanks for the advise.
Although I understand your fair point however I have chosen to play the game of the kaffir.
As long as I am insulting him and not his family.
I will reply in a derogatory way to this stupid assho1l.
They know what our point of view is and then what is the point of arguing.
I would honour them and shower them with xaar
Although I understand your fair point however I have chosen to play the game of the kaffir.
As long as I am insulting him and not his family.
I will reply in a derogatory way to this stupid assho1l.
They know what our point of view is and then what is the point of arguing.
I would honour them and shower them with xaar
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[quote]They know what our point of view is and then what is the point of arguing.
I would honour them and shower them with xaar[/quote]
Don Dijibouti, i will tell you the point of our argument, unlike you hadith drunken, quran illiterate fools, some of us can read and we can THINK!, we don't walk around babling reglious cliche zombie words, we sit back and observe God's universe, from this we have come to understand: WHILE MAN IS FLAWED, GOD IS NOT" , BUT you go sit there and explain patheically that the prophet WAS a man of old times with old customs, yet miraclously he is the prophet of all time before the world ends.
MAN JUST SHUT UP,
GO PICK UP THE KITAB, AND READ SOME VERSES, SOME OF YOU REGLIOUS PEOPLE INSULT HUMAN INTELLIGENCE!!! 
I would honour them and shower them with xaar[/quote]
Don Dijibouti, i will tell you the point of our argument, unlike you hadith drunken, quran illiterate fools, some of us can read and we can THINK!, we don't walk around babling reglious cliche zombie words, we sit back and observe God's universe, from this we have come to understand: WHILE MAN IS FLAWED, GOD IS NOT" , BUT you go sit there and explain patheically that the prophet WAS a man of old times with old customs, yet miraclously he is the prophet of all time before the world ends.

MAN JUST SHUT UP,


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[quote]It is un healthy to respond back and forth to the worthless outcasted kaafir. For the reason that they are nothing but Irrelevant, dump and deaf who don't see the light of the righteounes. It is the better for the dignitory believers to ignore such group[/quote]
AIMAN, IN THE QURAN ALLAH ASKS MAN TO [b]THINK [/b]A COUPLE OF HUNDRED TIMES, NOW IF YOU ARE INTELLECTUALY CHALLENGED OR YOU JUST ARE AFRAID TO FIND THE TRUTH,THATS FINE!!
BUT DON'T GIVE ME YOUR HAFIZ ILLERATE BULSHIT ABOUT WHO U THINK IS KAFIR OR NOT!!
JUST THINK PERHAPS YOUR RIGHTEOUS LIGHT IS NOT REALLY A SOURCE OF LIGHT AT ALL WHAT IF IT WAS A SHINE REFLECTION OR A MIRAGE THE WHOLE TIME?
[b]THINK!!![/b]
AIMAN, IN THE QURAN ALLAH ASKS MAN TO [b]THINK [/b]A COUPLE OF HUNDRED TIMES, NOW IF YOU ARE INTELLECTUALY CHALLENGED OR YOU JUST ARE AFRAID TO FIND THE TRUTH,THATS FINE!!
BUT DON'T GIVE ME YOUR HAFIZ ILLERATE BULSHIT ABOUT WHO U THINK IS KAFIR OR NOT!!
JUST THINK PERHAPS YOUR RIGHTEOUS LIGHT IS NOT REALLY A SOURCE OF LIGHT AT ALL WHAT IF IT WAS A SHINE REFLECTION OR A MIRAGE THE WHOLE TIME?
[b]THINK!!![/b]
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