ADOPTING: Somali Kids

Xplosive · Post by **Xplosive** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:24 am

[quote="optimist_1"]owh shit duq Xplosive is Pedo Shocked

[/quote]

Typical hutu way of thinking.. were you abused as a child?

fagash_killer · Post by **fagash_killer** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:11 am

i would do its not haraam for the ppl who says that the gaalo are smart wallahi they adopt other ppl the best thing the like to adopt are the muslims they will them lies and shit and hey they become free masonry ore christians they are playing smart whatever it is god really love them for doing shit like that ore helping sick animals the africans ore muslims would like to kill animals but didnt god said if you want to see me just look to the animals the humans and the world than you will see part of me its looks like the free masonry ppl changed some things in the hadith and we muslims are to blind sometimes to see

michael_ital · Post by **michael_ital** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:16 pm

Fatwa No. : 1251
Fatwa Title : Adoption in Islam
Fatwa Date : 26 Sha'ban 1422
Question

If someone doesn't have baby can he adopt an orphan baby? Cite Fatwa regarding this?

Fatwa

Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds; and blessings and peace be upon our Prophet Muhammad and upon all his Family and Companions.
If the questioner means by "Adopting an orphan" taking care of him, looking after his affairs, raising him, bearing his expenditures and tracing him back to his original father, then this is a very desirable act. Allah promises a great reward for the one who does so, Allah Says (interpretation of meaning): {Worship AllÃƒÂ¢h and join none with Him (in worship). and do good to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, Al-MasÃƒÂ¢kin (the poor), the neighbour who is near of kin, the neighbour who is a stranger, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (you meet), and those (slaves) whom your right hands possess. Verily, AllÃƒÂ¢h does not like such as are proud and boastful;}[4: 36].
The Prophet said: "I and the person who looks after an orphan and provides for him, will be in Paradise like this, "putting his index and middle fingers together". Among the best and loveliest house of Muslims near Allah is a house in which an orphan lives and the householders deal with him kindly and respectfully. The Prophet said: "The best house of Muslims is the house where an orphan lives in kindness and respect. The worst house of Muslims is the house where an orphan lives and he is ill-treated". The Prophet said: "The most desirable house to Allah is the one where an orphan lives with respect".
If by adoption the questioner means the adopting parent may claim the child as his natural born child, such practice is forbidden in Islam. Allah Says (interpretation of meaning): {AllÃƒÂ¢h has not put for any man two hearts inside his body. Neither has He made your wives whom you declare to be like your mothers' backs, your real mothers. [AzÃ‚ÂZihÃƒÂ¢r is the saying of a husband to his wife, "You are to me like the back of my mother" i.e. You are unlawful for me to approach.], nor has He made your adopted sons your real sons. That is but your saying with your mouths. But AllÃƒÂ¢h says the truth, and He guides to the (Right) Way. }[33: 4].
Allah establishes in this Ayah that adopting a child does not make him child of the one who adopts him and that this practice does not have any weight in Sharia.
In the following Ayah, Allah commands the Muslims to trace back every child to his original father. Allah Says (interpretation of meaning): {Call them (adopted sons) by (the names of) their fathers, that is more just with AllÃƒÂ¢h. But if you know not their father's (names, call them) your brothers in faith and MawÃƒÂ¢lÃƒÂ®kum (your freed slaves). And there is no sin on you if you make a mistake therein, except in regard to what your hearts deliberately intend. And AllÃƒÂ¢h is Ever OftÃ‚ÂForgiving, Most Merciful.}[33: 5].
Allah knows best.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Therefore, from this, I deduce that it is NOT xaraam to adopt, providing that the adopter does not give the adoptee his/her name. And that the child be informed of his lineage. However, adopting in the fashion of kufaar, where they usually adopt an infant orphan, and raise them as their own, IS xaraam.

The Law26 · Post by **The Law26** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:27 pm

[quote="X.Playa"]The Law,

Slave?? and what does that has to do with the facts? Are you telling me if Mohamed would have captured you in a war he has the inalienable right to cuckold you and take your wife?

Take your brain out of your colon before coming to debate.[/quote]

Dalol

Zaid wasn't captured in a war by the prophet pbuh. but was bought by Khadiijo ra prior to their marriage and the advent of the Qur'an. Who was Zaid's former wife? That marriage indicates the proper and humanely way that Zaid was treated by the prophet pbuh. All those allegations and smear campaign against our noble prophet pbuh have been proving to be wrong, pagan Dalol, and let us teach you Islam. Do you have further queries?

fagash_killer · Post by **fagash_killer** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:30 pm

i thought that zaid was beeing adopted by prophet muhammed(saw)

The Law26 · Post by **The Law26** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:28 pm

[quote="fagash_killer"]i thought that zaid was beeing adopted by prophet muhammed(saw)[/quote]

faqash-killer

Our prophet pbuh adopted Zaid, but let us wait to hear from the confused pagan mob like Dalol and co., to make up their mind if our prophet pbuh was a slave holder, or a caring figure in a cruel world like Arabia some 1500 years ago. You internalized the western system of adoption, do you know the rules and regulation of adoption in Islam? Were you adopted by a Dutch couple? Before we describe Islamic adoption in details, let us first hear from pagan Dalol and co. Till then, re-read Michael's last post.

Michael

Off course adoption is halal, but it is defined a little differently as understood in a 'western' context. We are allowed to take the responsibility of 'bringing up' a child and acting like a mother and father to such a person. Islam puts greater emphasis in the care and the well being of orphans. Do you know that prophet Mohamed pbuh himself was an orphan? You will find Somalis who grew up in the same house hold (not blood siblings) and in maturity marry each other.

kambuli · Post by **kambuli** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:33 pm

Alla Anisa walaal,

I did not check the link before now. OMG what an adorable kid? Hooyoy saasna manoo dambeysey Sad

X.Playa · Post by **X.Playa** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:37 pm

The Law,

You haven't still answered my question?. Mohamed is god's prophet, supposedly, he was not a plantation owner, your logic is vile. If Micheal Ital had the upper hand, your logic dictates that he should own you and your wife and screw you both.

So let me know , when you take your brains out of your Islamic colon , then we can debate as healthy 21 century humans.

LionHeart-112 · Post by **LionHeart-112** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:42 pm

^^U don't know how to debate. Like the rest of your crew, you resort insults and attacks on religion the minute you feel defeat. If you spent a fraction of your time studying Islam sincerely, you would not be lost. Get a fuccing life. No1 wants to listen to what u have to say...

Being civil is the most important thing in a debate.

Michael....Adoption is not Xaraam in Islam. What's not allowed is adopting a kid, giving him/her your family name/last name or whatever. The child must be told of his family (if you know them) or that he/she is at least adopted. Retaining family name and lineage is extremely important in Islam and that's why some people bring about a debate when the subject of adoption comes up.

The Law26 · Post by **The Law26** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:45 pm

Dalol

How many plantation owners do you know that married their male slave to their female relative and treated them like a member of their family? Give me one name or a link? Otherwise, keep sipping your ale alcoholic beverage till your kydneys explode like your brains.

I got a plane to catch, but will be back Inshallah, and read carefully the advice of Lion, if you want to debate like a 21 century human, have the courtesy and cease using profane pagan language.

LionHeart-112 · Post by **LionHeart-112** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:47 pm

Thelaw....X.playa is Gaylol soo ma ahan? Laughing

LaDy-Qac · Post by **LaDy-Qac** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:57 pm

--Alla Anisa walaal,

I did not check the link before now. OMG what an adorable kid? Hooyoy saasna manoo dambeysey---

Kambuli, i was shocked too walahi. Where are his parents??

kambuli · Post by **kambuli** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:11 pm

Lady qac, quote "Where are his parents"

Alla mooyi walaal, mindhaa waa kuwo duloobey Sad

Walaahay caloosha i hureysa Sad

michael_ital · Post by **michael_ital** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:22 pm

'Heart, that's correct, and that was the reason for my clarification at the bottom of my post. Wink

ladies, could be the child was born out of wedlock, or of an illicit relationship. many scenarios are possible.

SomaliNet Forums

FORUMS ARE BACK TO NORMAL - LIGHTNING FAST TOO

ADOPTING: Somali Kids