when Sheikh Isaxaaq died...

[BLUE RUSH]

bisinka iyo yasinka biko u retarded son of bitch stupid reer miye am disgusted that you can even say h.y from your diseased h.a mouth. your tribe get raped by ethopians. your a fool bloody bastard how dare you chat so much shit listen to this nacas

[DawladSade]

Xplaya that was actully good read.

[Ugaas Diini]

[quote]Iam sure its the same for the Habar Gidir , not all Habar Gidir sections are from Gidiro[/quote]

You are right. Ceyr is not even the son of Gidiro but since the other three are, they are automatically considered Habargedir.



[quote]later was used by all somali clans in grouping small sections of a tribe for defense and 'dia' paying group. [/quote]

True. I know examples from clan xitaa. Baho Guuleed.

Thanks for the explaination.

By the way, what are the original 8 sons of Isxaaq besides Ismaciil?

[DawladSade]

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[Ugaas Diini]

[quote]Cayr and Saruur are from Habartii Gidir and her second husband while Sacad and Saleebaan have the same mother but while Sacad is...well not known, Saleebaan is the product of a marriage between Sacad's mom and the second husband of Gidir who fathered Cayr and Saruur. [/quote]

That does not make sense. Read it one more time.

[DawladSade]

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[X.Playa]

yes i got confused there too, he wrote it in a haste.

8 sons are from the eldest:

1- Axmed

2- Ayuub

3- Cabdiraxmaan

4- Ismaaciil (Garxajis)

5- Cali (Arab)

6- Ibraahin

7- Maxamed

8- Muuse

[Ugaas Diini]

Never mind dude. So where does Madarkicis fit into that picture? I always thought Gedir was a woman.

[DawladSade]

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[X.Playa]

markaas miyuu dumaalay oo walaalo bay ahaayeen?

[Ugaas Diini]

You said Gedir was a 'she' and then said Gedir is the brother of Murasade Karanle? Waa wareersanahay weli wallahi. Abdiwahab said it differently man.

He said Madarkicis had Ceyr and after that he married Gedir who had Sacad by an Ajuuran man and she had Saleebaan and Saruur for him.

[DawladSade]

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[X.Playa]

Abgaal Cismaan Dalandoodle Mudulood Hiraab
harti=warsangali,agoonyar,obokor(Imaamka)

wacbuudhan= reer mataan, celi cumar,maxamed
muuse,daauud,kabaale iyo kuwa kale(Ugaas=Daauud)

warculus= Wacaysle
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Dagaan

Wacaysle= Galguduud waxay la dagaan Saruurka.
Harti= between Galaguduud and Xamar.
Wacbuudhan south of Xamar to Marka.
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Hiraab

1- Abgaan Cismaan
2-Wacdaan Cismaan
3-Moobleen Cismaan
4-Ilway Cismaan

iyo Adeerkood Hilebi Dalandoodle Mudulood Hiiraab.

Ciise Mudulood Hiraab= Udeejeen.

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Madarkicis Hiraab

1- Maxamed Madarkicis oo cayr ah
2- Ibraahim madarkicis saruur ah
3-sacad madarkicis(Cabdalle iyo
Cawareere waa inta kale Cabdalle halkiisaas)

4-saleebaan madarkicis(Farax iyo Dashame)
iyo adeerkood oo ah maxamuud hiraab = Duduble(Ajuran)

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iyo Karanle Hawiye oo Murusade ah. ooy walalo yihiin
Gorgaarte Hawiye oo inta kale oo dhan dhalay iyo Xaskul
Hawiye:

1-Daame Gorgaarte( Hiraab)
2-Wadaan Gorgaarte
3-Silcis Gorgaarte

[DawladSade]

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[X.Playa]

Thats what i wrote while back from a Habar Gidir freind. So Gidir was a man but when saying Habar Gidir it deson't mean the wife of Gidir it just means the lady Gidir was from Karanle clan. She was married to Madarkicis Hiraab.

But did he got all the 4 kids from Gidiro alone ? thats the point.