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Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:41 am
by Luq_Ganane
Spragga, here is my pecking order. Keep in mind, that for people giving up power this is very generous. And Ogaden are EXTREMELY fortunate for getting a post, due to their betrayal TWICE of Darod. In '91 and '06.
_ Lower Jubba governor - Sade
_ Lower Jubba deputy governor - Majerten
_ Kismayo mayor - Gaaljeceel
_ Kismayo deputy mayor - Majerten-
_ Airport chief - Majerten
_ Port chief - Sade
_ Police Chief - Absame
Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:42 am
by DawladSade
_ Lower Jubba governor - ABSAME
_ Lower Jubba deputy governor - SADE
_ Kismayo mayor - SADE
_ Kismayo deputy mayor - GAALJECEL
_ Airport chief - CAWRMALE
_ Port chief - SADE
_ Police Chief - SADE
_Co-Airport Chief - HARTI
_Co-Port Chief - BAAJUUN
_Co-Police Chief - Shiiqaal
Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:42 am
by DawladSade
[quote="Luq_Ganane"]Spragga, here is my pecking order. Keep in mind, that for people giving up power this is very generous. And Ogaden are EXTREMELY fortunate for getting a post, due to their betrayal TWICE of Darod. In '91 and '06.
_ Lower Jubba governor - Sade
_ Lower Jubba deputy governor - Majerten
_ Kismayo mayor - Gaaljeceel
_ Kismayo deputy mayor - Majerten-
_ Airport chief - Majerten
_ Port chief - Sade
_ Police Chief - Absame[/quote]
lUQ-gANANE ISKA NASO SXB, WAAD WAREERTAY

Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:45 am
by Luq_Ganane
Dawlad, WTF are you doing giving Absame TWO posts? What have they done to deserve it? The two power brokers in this are Sade and MJ (From a dawlad aspect), and OG's have been brutal to both. Give the other post to Gaaljecel. WTF, these guys kill our wounded (one of them was my reer apti) and you give them two spots?
Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:49 am
by DawladSade
Luq-Ganane, whatever our position is dude Ogaadeen will forever be a competitor for titles. It's not their waxqabad but their tirsi. Dude in Bu'aale, one of the 5 guys they killed is very close to Mom, a third cousin sxb ninkii Habar Ciise ay dileen.
With that said, you gave Majeerteen vice-governor of Lower Jubba (

), vice-mayor (

) AND airport (

). What in the world sxb, siyaasad ileen hada waa kuu bilow?
Even the Maxakiim who were going by kitaabka qur'aanka (maamula were built by sheikhyada in xamar) gave majeerteen one lower, junior municipal position. Hadalkaan and Abdullahi Yusuf's tribal actions ha arkin, the reality on the ground is much different then what we think.
Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:58 am
by Warsame101
President of Jubbaland = Mareexaan
Vice-president = Absame
2nd Vice-President = Harti/Gaaljecel
Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:02 pm
by Luq_Ganane
Dawlad, I was just going by the importance of the positions. The Governer, and Port are the most important position. The Governer of the region basically overseas everything. Correct me if I'm wrong. We also get the port which is the economic hub. So we have legislation for the whole region, and the economic force of the region. We can't have everything. Also, I think I've been very,very fair to Ogaden. All these guys have done is collaborate with our enemies, and brutilize their ehel at every turn. Infact they really don't deserve anything.
Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:15 pm
by Luq_Ganane
Dawlad, horta whats up with you? I think a 6'0 Ogadeni girl with long hair, and nice skin baa kaa wale these dayz.

You have done a total about face these past couple of weeks on Absame, and I know you don't have Absame blood.

Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:46 pm
by zackabdul
Governor of the region will never go to Mareexan and you have to understand that. You are not the majority in the region and as far as I know, the OGs out number anyone else.. I really doubt MR even surpass 50% of the population in Kismaayo but nonetheless a significant amount do live there..
Luq, regardless of what they have done or not, as one of your kinfolk said before 'majority rule' so DS I don't know why you would name MR the Governor of Lower Jubba.. your being hypocritical ina adeer.

Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:02 pm
by Luq_Ganane
Zackapul, Sade will never, ever accept being subordinates to OG's, never. I could really care less if there the majority or not, because quite frankly they don't have the guns to do anything about it. These savages, masakimin, dhawac ah, aye layeen. That is totally unheard of, and even Hawiye wouldn't do something like that. Now that we have the upper hand over them, do you think we'll allow for them to rule over us, and abuse us for a third time? They robbed our Qaxooti in '91, fought against us in '91, helped overthrow the president when he was good to them, Fought against us again in '06, and then added insult to injury when they killed wounded masakimin, when they were in their hospital. I think I've made myself very clear on this matter. Also keep in mind that Marehan if they wanted to, could have straight up settled old scores when they came back to Kismayo, but left them alone. As I stated earlier, I'm willing to give them an important post still, and MJ's get very, very fair representation. Perhaps too much.
Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:04 pm
by DawladSade
Waryaa Luq, sxb no there is no Ogadeni on the side but we have to be fair, they have tirsi, the OG in Jubba. I am 6'1 myself sxb so I would never even take a second look at 6'0 female, she has to be 5'9 or shorter (btw 5'9 to 5'6) for me to have the ideal couple look I like.
Zak I didn't sxb. Did you read mines?
_ Lower Jubba governor - ABSAME
_ Lower Jubba deputy governor - SADE
_ Kismayo mayor - SADE
_ Kismayo deputy mayor - GAALJECEL
_ Airport chief - CAWRMALE
_ Port chief - SADE
_ Police Chief - SADE
_Co-Airport Chief - HARTI
_Co-Port Chief - BAAJUUN
_Co-Police Chief - Shiiqaal
Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:08 pm
by Luq_Ganane
Dawlad,
Do not push me to start a Reer Ali Hussien/Reer Ugas Insurgency.

Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:15 pm
by zackabdul
DS,
You quoted Luq and I didn't look at that..
Do you honestly believe Gaaljecel out number Harti in J/Hoose or in Kismayo for that matter?
Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:17 pm
by zackabdul
DS,
Who do you think is larger J/Hoose country side, Sade or Harti?
Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:18 pm
by Luq_Ganane
Zackapul, everything else is open to negotiation. I didn't say I have the perfect mamul. But OG's are not going to run shyt.
