Shirib, Meet Ur New Leader
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Re: Shirib, Meet Ur New Leader
In the map by Somaliwayne, Saad and Yasmin, Suleyman, and Daud are all subclans of Biomaal, the brothers of Isaaq.
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Re: Shirib, Meet Ur New Leader
''So those Central Somalis of Hiiraan extraction have claim to the land for without certain Hiiraab, outsiders will come back to colonize.''
After the ousting of the Ajuraans, the different Hawiye subclans took different parts of these Ajuraans-ruled regions. For example, some went to Hiiraan and established their own rule there, others stayed around Mudug and took over Hobyo city which was an important Ajuraan city, and others went to Benadir and took over Mogadishu and established their own rule.
If we followed your logic, then those from Benadir have a claim to Hobyo too, since Hiiraab alliance ousted the Ajuraans from that ancient city. Also, the chief Kenadiid was ousted from that city when the Italians armed different clans of the Hiiraab like HG, Waceysle Abgaal, Sheekhaal etc. So again, a right claim to that city.
Since that is not possible in the current situation, it becomes logical that the different Hawiye subclans rule at least the regions/lands they have lived on since the ousting of the Ajuraans. Hence why HG should focus on Mudug/Galgaduud, while those of Benadir focus on Benadir region, and those from Hiiraan on Hiiraan etc etc.
But at the end of the day, all these regions future are linked: an occupied Benadir or Mudug has the same negative effect on the interest and security of Hawiye in general.
After the ousting of the Ajuraans, the different Hawiye subclans took different parts of these Ajuraans-ruled regions. For example, some went to Hiiraan and established their own rule there, others stayed around Mudug and took over Hobyo city which was an important Ajuraan city, and others went to Benadir and took over Mogadishu and established their own rule.
If we followed your logic, then those from Benadir have a claim to Hobyo too, since Hiiraab alliance ousted the Ajuraans from that ancient city. Also, the chief Kenadiid was ousted from that city when the Italians armed different clans of the Hiiraab like HG, Waceysle Abgaal, Sheekhaal etc. So again, a right claim to that city.
Since that is not possible in the current situation, it becomes logical that the different Hawiye subclans rule at least the regions/lands they have lived on since the ousting of the Ajuraans. Hence why HG should focus on Mudug/Galgaduud, while those of Benadir focus on Benadir region, and those from Hiiraan on Hiiraan etc etc.
But at the end of the day, all these regions future are linked: an occupied Benadir or Mudug has the same negative effect on the interest and security of Hawiye in general.
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