WHERE IS THAT FOOL SOMALIWEYN??

[AbdiWahab252]

[quote="Somaliweyn"]Fool?

''Ciidamadaasi oo tiradoodu gaaraysay 800 oo askari ..ayaa ciidamadaasi waxay ku soo duuleen Dameero ''

looooooooooooool Look no further, the ones that write such crap and actually believe 800 on donkeys could defeat Aideeds 5000+ army armed with heavy weapons must be a fool.

Thats why I dont debate with kids that rely on written crap on Somali websites.[/quote]

Somaliweyn,

The Marexan Calvary of Magical Burros were fearsome. The hee hawing could be heard in the distance as they trotted on to the battle field chewing their magical Quule berries.

[zackabdul]

Lool I'm going to find out if this is true.. I shall return!

[Voltage]

[quote="AbdiWahab252"][quote="Somaliweyn"]Fool?

''Ciidamadaasi oo tiradoodu gaaraysay 800 oo askari ..ayaa ciidamadaasi waxay ku soo duuleen Dameero ''

looooooooooooool Look no further, the ones that write such crap and actually believe 800 on donkeys could defeat Aideeds 5000+ army armed with heavy weapons must be a fool.

Thats why I dont debate with kids that rely on written crap on Somali websites.[/quote]

Somaliweyn,

The Marexan Calvary of Magical Burros were fearsome. The hee hawing could be heard in the distance as they trotted on to the battle field chewing their magical Quule berries.[/quote]


This is all for the Abgaal foreigners there. Between you and I, there is no need to mention as late as yesterday you were under Mareexaan protection from your own Saleebaan kins.



Zack, do that! This is why I am never opposed to going outside and trying to confirm information here. Those who don't want to fact the truth are the only ones who do not.

[CoolPoisons]

^^Mad_Dogg, U mean Wagerdha protection. Dacas are the slaves of Wagerdha. Siyad Husein enslaved the 3 other Habargidirs but Dacas was the personal slave of Wagerdha.

[AbdiWahab252]

HEE HAW HEE HAW HEE HAW,

The Marexan Calvary are coming !

The Marexan Are Coming

HEE HAW HEE HAW !

[Voltage]

Cool, Wagardhac is a nation. They go from Mudug to Wardheer. The only Wagardhac they see and the group that prevented a massacre of them in Gelinsoor from the Sacad-blood-thirsty Saleebaan was reer Gediid!

[xoogSADE14]

We have recorded historical documents backing up our every claim. The donkeys have on their side what their mankaal filled stomach tells them is true.

Anagaaba gardaran oo dameero iyo shaqaalaheenii Xamar la doodnay.

[Murax]

Voltage,


Sxb really theres no point. Somaliweyn etc. are not debating like men. Facts will be brought forth a convenient excuse etc. will be made. Anisom troops were asked for by Cali Mahid the leader of Abgal and US troops were supported in Xamar by Abgal, yet they came to save Marexaan or Darood. SNF were advancing on Kismayo and UN troops were HOLDING the city for USC/SPM and even shelled Morgan's Marexaan forces when they were advancing! In War theres attacks and counter attacks where enemy areas get captured. Every study the world wars? Also this Somaliweyn guys says there were plenty of high ranking SNF officials killed in battle that meant to the SNF what Shabelle aun meatn to the USC, looool. Why doesn't he name them? Gen Ahmed Warsame, Gen Barre Hiiraale (Both of whom led the Gedo battles) Issaq Bixi, Cabdicasis Barre were the top officials of the SNF and none of them were killed in any war. Kismayo, Gedo, Galkacyo assistance to Xawaadle (material, logistics) in Beledweyn and lastly ensuring that the USC would disintigrate by putting in our puppet Cali Mahdi. Then again Voltage there will always be convenient explanations and exucses for why this stuff happened ofcourse. Its like a somebody You beat one on one and He makes a million excuses.


As for the whole 4 month war, even A/Wahab if He's honest would admit that Cali Mahid and Abgal were used towards the end of the actual fighting to ensure that the USC would not accomplish anything and it worked, as they were both agents that were used by some Darood politicians at the end. Thats just being politically smart. This stupdity is what explains AY sitting in Villa Somalia today with Abgal as his loyal lapdogs.

[Voltage]

You hit the head on the nail wallahi Murax!

[Alchemist]

These type of topics leave you tired at the end without the conviction of anybody else.

The only benefit might be sin...

[Voltage]

[quote="Alchemist"]These type of topics leave you tired at the end without the conviction of anybody else.

The only benefit might be sin...[/quote]


Alchemist, do you have anything to say? When the topic is geared positively towards USC and Aydiid you are the first to clap and when you feel your groups are taking the beating you are the first to bring your dry monotonous self-righteous voice. Get real man -->

[sadeboi]

[quote="Somaliweyn"]The one of Warsheekh, read Italian Colonialism by Robert L. Hess. About the first Somali armed campaign against European colonialism that started 1896 and was launced by Wacdaan read Robert L. Hess
[/quote]

Lol, its quite amazing how people love to spin stories. Somaliweyn do you think people cannot obtain the book and thus will take your word for it?

Page 65, Chapter Three, Italian Colonialism in Somalia:

"Within ten days he [Italian investigator Sorrentino] had determined that Lafole incident [the one our friend Somaliweyn speaks off] was neither the precursor of a general uprising against the Italians nor an Ethiopian ambush but an isolated case of action by Wadan tribesmen and the tribes of Geladi, who had been SPURRED TO THE ACT BY TWO ARABS FROM MUQDISHO. Upon closer inspection Dulio and Sorrentino discovered that Abu Bakr bin Awod, Filonardi's [Italian commander] interpreter, and a certain Islam bin Muhammad were the two Arabs responsible for INSTIGATING the massacre. THEIR MOTIVE HAD BEEN FEAR OF LOSING THE PROFITABLE POSITION THEY HELD UNDER THE FILONARDI ADMINSTRATION."

Page 66, Chapter Three, Italian Colonialism in Somalia:

"When reinforcements of two companies of Eritrean askaris finally arrived in March, the Italians completed their plans for the PUNITIVE expedition against the Wadan and Gedladi. On April 20, Sorrentino led his expedition inland burned Lafole and several other villages. The encounter with the Italians SUBDUED the Sultan of Gedladi, WHO QUICKLY SIGNED A TREATY OF PEACE AND PLEDGED OBEDIENCE TO THE ITALIAN GOVERNMENT. "

My friends this was described to us by certain lads on here as an epic battle of freedom fighters against colonialist, mind you, this was a case of use and abuse. Two Arabs, a mere two Arab men, outsmarted the wacdan clan into fighting the Italians because the Arabs were afraid of losing their interpretor job and wanted Filonardi to die so they can keep the job; reinforces the common Somali conception of "caqli abgaal" eh lol? Mind you, the mudulood clan never fought against the Italians before the Arabs convinced them to fight, except for when two Italians were killed by abgaals, when the Italians first step foot in Somalia by boat, after the killing of the two men the Mudulood and other clans signed peace treaty and that was it no more "resistance" [page 31 of the book.] Back to the "epic battle" that "sparked the longest resistance struggles in Southern Somalia" and which was "SECOND to Sayyid Abdulle Hasans and his darawiish," after the wacdan killed those Italians so the Arabs can secure their jobs the Italians took action to PUNISH the clan -- the word used in the book is quite amusing, PUNITIVE, see even the Italians thought they were used that this was not something they came up with and that they just needed to be PUNISHED so they won't follow any more people lol-- lafole and other villages were burnt and the Geladi Sultan, who is also the Sultan of Wacdan since they have an alliance and one sultan, signed a pledge and OBEDIENCE to the Italians.

[sadeboi]

Now lets look at how Somaliweyn saw that event:

"This event sparked one of the longest resistance struggles in Southern Somalia (Benadir) against Italian penetration and occupation of Somalia. THIS LONG RESISTANCE IS ONLY SECOND TO THE HEROIC GREAT STRUGLLE OF Sayyid Muhammed Abdulle Hassan and his darawish army.


This episode in Somali history is perhaps the least known, although it had crucial impact on the future of Somalia."

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=134391&hilit=Axad

[sadeboi]

Lets read more from this book, page 90:

"Cheifs of the Shidle, Hawadleh, and MOBILEEN Somali began to swear allegiance to the colonial power. After the SUBMISSION of these cheifs and of several WADAN chiefs, the Somali enemies of the Bimal and the Wadam tribes petitioned Carletti to move forces inland."

MY GOD, lets continue, this is on page 91, and this is a letter governor Carletti wrote to the Italian Foreign Minster:

"With naive guile they [THE SOMALI CLANS MENTIONED] seek to prick my amour propre to make me move without delay. I have a sheaf of letters in which they DO NOTHING BUT REPEAT: WHY DON'T YOU COME, YOU HAVE RIFLES? YOU HAVE CANONS, WHAT DO YOU FEAR? YOU ARE AFRAID...MUHAMMED ABDULLAH HAS FORBIDDEN YOU TO MOVE"

La xowla wala quwata illa billah, here we have letters from mudulood clans and co. taunting the Carletti so they he might fight the Sayid, to the point that the governor is annoyed.

Wow, so much history in this lets continue and read, page 158:

About the "annexation" of JUbbaland

"In the northern zone, where the Marehan and the Aulihan lived, there had never been political or administrative organization of any sort. The tribes there were as FREE AS ALL SOMALI HAD BEEN BEFORE THE ARRIVAL OF THE BRITISH AND THE ITALIANS THIRTY-FIVE YEARS EARLIER."


So, Somaliweyn, how can you, who hails from mudulood, speak to and question SADEs about history, leadership, or anything else of that sort.

[xoogSADE14]

loooooooooooool@ SB & Murax

We shall now wait for our resident donkeys to come in here talking out of their arses (as usual) after a heavy feast of mankaal.