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Re: Saudi Clerics Advocate Adult Breast-Feeding

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Paddington Bear wrote:
rosyspecs wrote:A case of cherry-picking gone massively wrong. Honestly this fatwa goes contrary to logic, Islam is a logical religion, these Saudi sheiks have made us the laughing stocks of the west not cool :down:
You're worried about being the laughing stock of the west? :mrgreen:

There is nothing wrong with the fatwa and the logic that was employed to reach it. Like all fatwas, it's a case or take it or leave it.

Who says 'it is a take or leave case'? my goodness. No, it is the most stupidest sickest thing I ever heard.
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Paddington Bear wrote:Some of you need to understand the meaning of the word 'fatwa'. :mrgreen:
Paddington Bear wrote:
rosyspecs wrote:A case of cherry-picking gone massively wrong. Honestly this fatwa goes contrary to logic, Islam is a logical religion, these Saudi sheiks have made us the laughing stocks of the west not cool :down:
You're worried about being the laughing stock of the west? :mrgreen:

There is nothing wrong with the fatwa and the logic that was employed to reach it. Like all fatwas, it's a case or take it or leave it.
Ader, dont confuse these people. (here is mr green)
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Walaashiis wrote:
Paddington Bear wrote:
rosyspecs wrote:A case of cherry-picking gone massively wrong. Honestly this fatwa goes contrary to logic, Islam is a logical religion, these Saudi sheiks have made us the laughing stocks of the west not cool :down:
You're worried about being the laughing stock of the west? :mrgreen:

There is nothing wrong with the fatwa and the logic that was employed to reach it. Like all fatwas, it's a case or take it or leave it.

Who says 'it is a take or leave case'? my goodness. No, it is the most stupidest sickest thing I ever heard.
But it is a take it or leave it case, my friend. That's the whole point of fatwas (they are non binding). :mrgreen:
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samadoon-waaxid wrote:
rosyspecs wrote:A case of cherry-picking gone massively wrong. Honestly this fatwa goes contrary to logic, Islam is a logical religion, these Saudi sheiks have made us the laughing stocks of the west not cool :down:
you talk what goes along with you "logic"? and u leave the rest? now who is cherry picking,u or the saudi Ulema? :mrgreen:
lol
Well it's not necessarily 'my' logic it doesn't take a fool to realise this so called 'fatwa' couldn't be implemented without completely going against Islamic teachings. I mean when you think about it what boundaries could you lay down with a fatwa like that? Any Tom ceeb or Harry could go around asking to suckle non-muhram females for the cause of 'appropriate gender segregation' :down:
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paddigam bear:u know what the syrians say? فالج لا تعالج :mrgreen:
however u explain it these girls would think they are binded by the fatwa to suckle their co-worker,mid walba acuudu bilahi bey la soo boodesaa :(
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samadoon-waaxid wrote:paddigam bear:u know what the syrians say? فالج لا تعالج :mrgreen:
however u explain it these girls would think they are binded by the fatwa to suckle their co-worker,mid walba acuudu bilahi bey la soo boodesaa :(
:mrgreen:

It is actually a shame that they believe such fatwas to be a bad thing. The recent intellectual explosion in Saudi Arabia has been a breath of fresh air and (in the long term) promises to improve the livelihood of women in that kingdom.
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Paddington Bear wrote:
rosyspecs wrote:A case of cherry-picking gone massively wrong. Honestly this fatwa goes contrary to logic, Islam is a logical religion, these Saudi sheiks have made us the laughing stocks of the west not cool :down:
You're worried about being the laughing stock of the west? :mrgreen:

There is nothing wrong with the fatwa and the logic that was employed to reach it. Like all fatwas, it's a case or take it or leave it.
Yeah true but It's just giving unecessary fodder to all the anti-islam bigots of the world, making ridiculous fatwas like these, and extrapolating the lesson learnt from one hadith of exceptional circumstance to an entirely different situation.

Apparently this fatwa has been made before and subsequently retracted too: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6681511.stm
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Sheikh Abdul Mohsen al-Obeikan, a top advisor in the court of King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz.

In the first fatwa, Obeikan said an adult man is considered a woman’s son if she breastfeeds him. So, if gender mixing is to be allowed in Islam women should breastfeed men to create a family-like environment and minimize chances of unauthorized sexual relations.

The issue of adult breastfeeding, loosely based on a story from the early Islamic era, has infuriated both conservatives and liberals alike and was also condemned by women rights activists. The fatwa was also seen as a way of getting around the ban on mixing of unrelated men and women.

Obeikan, who is known for promoting a milder approach to religion, also angered conservatives when he said that noon and afternoon prayers can be combined together at times of scathing heat. Temperature in the kingdom exceeds 50 degrees Celsius in the summer.

Conservatives argued that combining prayers could only be done under very specific circumstances such as travelling and insisted that they were against issuing such a general rule that applies to
adultbreastfeeding :up: :up: basraaa would you breat feed me? i feel hungryyyyyyyy :D :D :D :D
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Paddington Bear wrote:
samadoon-waaxid wrote:paddigam bear:u know what the syrians say? فالج لا تعالج :mrgreen:
however u explain it these girls would think they are binded by the fatwa to suckle their co-worker,mid walba acuudu bilahi bey la soo boodesaa :(
:mrgreen:

It is actually a shame that they believe such fatwas to be a bad thing. The recent intellectual explosion in Saudi Arabia has been a breath of fresh air and (in the long term) promises to improve the livelihood of women in that kingdom.

Let me say some prayers for myself and the Muslims sister:


Ilaaheyow hadaa jirtid oo diintaada xaq tahey protect us from this kind of abuse.

It is of power when they say 'you would have your rights to go about your daily life when you suckle a strange adult male'. They are abusing their religious authority.

Balaayo idinka dhacdey :twisted:
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Paddington Bear wrote:
samadoon-waaxid wrote:paddigam bear:u know what the syrians say? فالج لا تعالج :mrgreen:
however u explain it these girls would think they are binded by the fatwa to suckle their co-worker,mid walba acuudu bilahi bey la soo boodesaa :(
:mrgreen:

It is actually a shame that they believe such fatwas to be a bad thing. The recent intellectual explosion in Saudi Arabia has been a breath of fresh air and (in the long term) promises to improve the livelihood of women in that kingdom.
lol,apparently I missed out on that intellectual explosion.unless u referring to the meeker liberals who managed to publish one photo of a veil-less woman in saxifat al watan as a token of woman's rights :mrgreen:
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Thanks for the link, Rosy,


''Breast feeding an adult puts an end to the problem of the private meeting, and does not ban marriage," he ruled


What a contradiction! they can be alone together but still can marry each other apparently :evil:
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Walaashiis wrote:Thanks for the link, Rosy,


''Breast feeding an adult puts an end to the problem of the private meeting, and does not ban marriage," he ruled


What a contradiction! they can be alone together but still can marry each other apparently :evil:
go learn the difference between adult breast feeding and child breast feeding before u point to a contradiction that doesnt exist ;)
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samadoon-waaxid wrote:
Walaashiis wrote:Thanks for the link, Rosy,


''Breast feeding an adult puts an end to the problem of the private meeting, and does not ban marriage," he ruled


What a contradiction! they can be alone together but still can marry each other apparently :evil:
go learn the difference between adult breast feeding and child breast feeding before u point to a contradiction that doesnt exist ;)


I do not need to learn this:

waxaan la joogi karaa in private with only male muhrams.

waxaan la joogi karaa anigoon hijaab lahey, sax?

ilmihii aan nuujiyo waxey noqonayaan muxramkeyga, sax. Because that person is regard to be your son/daughter
ayaga iyo kuwa aan dhaleyna isma guursan karnaa because waa walaalo, sax.


marka ii sheeg xagee lagu arkey in la dhaho

nuuji si aad ula shaqeyso so he can be like your son?? then you say it is OK you can marry.

Aniga caqliga dadka islaamka waa nacey marmar waxey iga sameysaa welwell iyo shaki :|
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samadoon-waaxid wrote:
Paddington Bear wrote:
samadoon-waaxid wrote:paddigam bear:u know what the syrians say? فالج لا تعالج :mrgreen:
however u explain it these girls would think they are binded by the fatwa to suckle their co-worker,mid walba acuudu bilahi bey la soo boodesaa :(
:mrgreen:

It is actually a shame that they believe such fatwas to be a bad thing. The recent intellectual explosion in Saudi Arabia has been a breath of fresh air and (in the long term) promises to improve the livelihood of women in that kingdom.
lol,apparently I missed out on that intellectual explosion.unless u referring to the meeker liberals who managed to publish one photo of a veil-less woman in saxifat al watan as a token of woman's rights :mrgreen:
maxaa kale oo iga dambeeyay?
The liberals will never get it their own way (not in that society) but their continuous meddling plays a great part in improving the religious and political discourse. By posing such questions as adult breastfeeding, women driving, music and even jinn to the scholars, they force them to hone their fatwas and put them under the spotlight. As you saw, nowadays, a scholar would make a fatwa on a certain topic only to be confronted with several other scholars who will oppose him and give their own interpretation on the subject. This has got so big that even Al Sudais was forced to comment on it and disparage the spread of weak fatwas. Such things did not happen in the past (fatwas used to be accepted without any complaint).
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Paddington Bear wrote:The liberals will never get it their own way (not in that society) but their continuous meddling plays a great part in improving the religious and political discourse. By posing such questions as adult breastfeeding, women driving, music and even jinn to the scholars, they force them to hone their fatwas and put them under the spotlight. As you saw, nowadays, a scholar would make a fatwa on a certain topic only to be confronted with several other scholars who will oppose him and give their own interpretation on the subject. This has got so big that even Al Sudais was forced to comment on it and disparage the spread of weak fatwas. Such things did not happen in the past (fatwas used to be accepted without any complaint).
lol, only few hand picked schoalrs by al-saud can make public fatwa now a days I think,speaking of the jinns.did that one jinni agree to come to the court for the corruption case :mrgreen: .in fact I was about to make a thread about it now.
I have alot of grieves about the saudi religous establishment niyahow,truth be told, waa very superficial. and they seemed to be in their own lil world still debating the proper way of doing masx calaa al-khifeeyn,and weather proper niqaab has one eye hole or two.they lag behind in offering solutions for the current and real world issues, too accommodating to the fat kings, and they buy too many scholarly loyalty around the world with their petro-dollars.they plummeting the entire Ummah religous discourse if I may say.
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