The issue of the Niqab.

[Voltage]

Please make a coherent holistic argument rather than the childish response to ever phrase and sentence. Also rather than resorting to mere articles written by individuals resort to more established consensus of highest scholars as brother Hyper has done. If bin Laden says something, there are also people who would follow him So far most of the major Islamic scholars, as brother Hyper has mentioned, are of the argument it is not compulsory at all nor necessarily sunnah but rather "allowed".

[Shirib]

The idea of it being a security risk is a flaw in your argument.

Syria didn't ban the niqab because of security issues. They banned it because it was becoming mainstream especially among more younger and educated women. The last thing the Alawi's in Syria want is a population who are conservative Muslims.

France banned it cause they ban everything to do with religion, and want a totally secular country.

[Voltage]

I know why they banned but those motivations I have described are still relevant. In the context of our own nation, I don't know how you could it call it "flawed".

[Shirib]

There is no evidence to suggest that the niqaab adds to security concerns. Its more of an excuse then reality.

[Voltage]

And somehow your statement is rooted in intelligent observation? I think even in this topic, multiple people have brought up those amorous relationships in Baydhabo with guys using hijab and the suicide bombings in Mogadishu. But be that as it may, if the Niqab is not rooted in the Qur'an or Sunnah, I think it is up to Islamic society's social laws. Personally I don't think it should be worn but that is me and in fact should be banned for the loss of identity and security threats it presents. Also, there are multiple hadiths the prophet talks about being moderate in action, character, etc and I do not think the Niqab is moderate by any nature.

[Shirib]

And somehow your statement is rooted in intelligent observation? I think even in this topic, multiple people have brought up those amorous relationships in Baydhabo with guys using hijab and the suicide bombings in Mogadishu. But be that as it may, if the Niqab is not rooted in the Qur'an or Sunnah, I think it is up to Islamic society's social laws. Personally I don't think it should be worn but that is me and in fact should be banned for the loss of identity and security threats it presents. Also, there are multiple hadiths the prophet talks about being moderate in action, character, etc and I do not think the Niqab is moderate by any nature.

The hotel shaamo suicide bombing in Muqdisho was fishy as hell. The man they said "blew himself up" was still in one piece yet the bombing killed dozens, so its hardly believable at all.
Where is the wide spread security threat that niqaab presents?

Niqaab has been widely accepted in Islam, many scholars consider it sunnah, and if a woman wants to do so, it is in her right.

Your excuse of security threat is not a real one. Gets rid of identity, u can know someone without seeing their face. Sometimes better, than if u actually did see their face.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Surely it sucks to be wife of wahabi guy because during the summers you wear niqab while he is wearing summer clothes.

Hijab is the only thing i accept in accordance with quran and hadith

[waryaa]

There is no evidence to suggest that the niqaab adds to security concerns. Its more of an excuse then reality.

Bro Shirib, A relative of mine lives in a not so safe area of the city. He was in downtown in one evening when his wife told him there was a niqabi woman going around their home. She thought the woman was sent by men who wanted to harm her husband. The man decided not to go home that night. The neighbors confronted her the next time she was spotted. Then she started to run, throwing pieces of the niqab as she goes faster and faster. It was confirmed that the person in the neqab was not a woman but a man. I am sure if you were a police commissioner here you'd be telling people to stay away from people who hide their faces.

In my opinion, all heavy dresses with or without face cover should be banned in war zones or at least regulated. Do you know that the AK47 is so small it can be perfectly hidden in such a dress?

By the way, the word niqab is new to me - I call it heavy hijab.

[samadoon-waaxid]

hutuking:what a donkey you are,if you think niqab came from whabis,then do you also think prophet mohamed was a wahabi? since his wife Aisha wore a one eyed niqab?i bet u didnt even know that
lol @ waryaa and heavy jilbaab,was that in bosaso? btw,i'm curious if any of elder assasinations in PL lately have been carried out by a niqabi?

vol:that security argument is what the neocons say,syria and Egypt are doing proxy hijab war for the west and it wont be long before even hijab in those countries are banned,which will be the end of thos regimes.mark my word.
not to mention that the issue can be taken care off simply by having female officers and officials identify niqabis entering important or governement buildings,there is no harm in such a thing.but banning niqab all together is waaay over the board and the first thing islam haters would like to see happening.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

^ the story which says prophet's(pbuh) wives wore one eyed niqab is daeef. I doubt they did that because another hadith the prophet pbuh commanded believing women to cover their body except the face and hands. That is also what Allah swt said in quran.
So are u saying there is contradiction in the hadiths?

Ps u are the donkey by following wahabism blindly, and ignoring to use ur own brains.

[samadoon-waaxid]

^ the story which says prophet's(pbuh) wives wore one eyed niqab is daeef. I doubt they did that because another hadith the prophet pbuh commanded believing women to cover their body except the face and hands. That is also what Allah swt said in quran.
So are u saying there is contradiction in the hadiths?

Ps u are the donkey by following wahabism blindly, and ignoring to use ur own brains.

not only you are a donkey,you are a dimwit.how do you know its daeef warye.proof it. and no there is no contradiction,she was the mothers of all muslims and had a special statues.but why am I even expecting you to fathom this.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

I cant help an blind follower who is taking all hadiths to be sahih because such and such shiikh said so.
Ninyahow i only follow quran and the hadith which does not contradict quran . So women should dress how the prophet pbuh told them to do so.

May Allah open your eyes.

Because of that hadith it makes sense why niqab should be banned. Its an lie made by some men to hinder believing women from following prophet's command, also to make their lives an hell.

[samadoon-waaxid]

I cant help an blind follower who is taking all hadiths to be sahih because such and such shiikh said so.
Ninyahow i only follow quran and the hadith which does not contradict quran . So women should dress how the prophet pbuh told them to do so.

May Allah open your eyes.

Because of that hadith it makes sense why niqab should be banned. Its an lie made by some men to hinder believing women from following prophet's command, also to make their lives an hell.

what a munaafiq you are,your said it was weak so why dont you prove it waryee? or you felt cornered when you were caught lying red handed.even Dr.Yalaxow makes more sense than you.go research the dress code of the sahaba women and the prophet's wives and then we will talk.

[qoraxeey]

walaaleeyaal

niqaab is not sunnah ... its enought to cover your *cawra* .. and the face & hands can be free

Nabi Muxammad SAW said its not needed to cover the face & hands

[RuralMan08]

Women shouldn't be given a choice of what to wear when they are outside as they have no clue about their provocative nature. The niqab is a preventive measure against any indecency that can take place. They should be told to wear it from the age of 14.