Wonderful world of radical Islam

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this joke is so old


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why can't i say "we" to an army my tax dollars support?

[grandpakhalif]

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All muslims who respond below this line is being trolled this guy is arguing for the sake of argument and knows full well what the muslim stance is on the xuduud of Allah and his messenger, I repeat do not argue with this mujrim who seeks to cast doubt in muslim hearts. This warning goes to the other one DR.YALAXOOW who argues purely out of his desires and seeks to mislead innocent muslims.

Thank you.

[kadarre]

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this joke is so old


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why can't i say "we" to an army my tax dollars support?

Your Black and a Muslim the lowest of Western society.

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Black man leads the free world.

[abdalla11]

LOL@ cutting hands is metaphorical. Go right a letter to Obama using that metaphor and see how the CIA interprets it
The punishment for those who spread mischief and corruption is that their hands and feet be cut off from alternate sides

[Shirib]

LOL@ cutting hands is metaphorical. Go right a letter to Obama using that metaphor and see how the CIA interprets it
The punishment for those who spread mischief and corruption is that their hands and feet be cut off from alternate sides

aduunyo gadoon is near saaxib

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"Don't cut off a person's limbs intentionally"....is that really turning your world upside down?

Wahabists really live in the 5th century.

[FAH1223]

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp? ... 95&CATE=12

The punishment for stealing has a process.

Allah Most High says:

�In the law of retaliation there is (saving of) life to you, O you men of understanding� (Surah al-Baqarah, 179).

Due to the idea behind these various penalties being imposed not to make an individual suffer, rather to create a better society as a whole, the Shariah laid down certain strict rules and conditions in order for the punishment to be established or enforced. These strict conditions can be seen in all the various penalties that have been imposed.

The case with theft and stealing is the same in that certain conditions have been laid down for the penalty to be imposed. If the conditions are met, only then will such a penalty be enforced.

Conditions for the penalty of theft:

The following are the conditions which must be met in order to establish the penalty of theft:

1) The one who steals is sane

2) He has reached puberty

3) He steals equivalent to the amount (nisab) or more. The Nisab is one Dinar or ten Dirhams (i.e. 4.374 grams of gold). The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said:

�There is no cutting (of hands) for stealing that is less then ten Dirhams� (Musnad Ahmad).

Sayyidah Aisha (Allah be pleased with her) reports that �The hands were not cut in the time of the Messenger of Allah for stealing worthless things� (Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah).

Aisha (Allah be pleased with her) narrates that: �The hand of a thief was not cut off during the lifetime of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give peace) except for stealing something equal to a shield in value� (Sahih al-Bukhari, 6792, & Sahih Muslim, 1685).

A shield was worth one Dinar at that time, as narrated by Ibn Abbas in Sunan Abu Dawud & Sunan Nasa�i.

4) He steals the article from a place that meets the requirements of security and safeguarding. This security is considered when the article is safeguarded by a guard or by it being locked in a place.

5) The article is in the ownership of another person

6) There is no confusion in it (as to whether he took it by way of theft or for some other reason).

7) It was stolen secretly (not by force, etc�).

If any of the above conditions are not met, then the penalty of theft will not be established.

Allah Most High says:

�As to the thief, male of female, cut off his or her hands. A punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime�  (Surah al-Ma�idah, 38).

As far as the evidence and testimony is concerned, stealing will be established by self admittance once or by the testimony of two adult males. The witnesses will be asked the details of the incident, as not to make an error.

A person�s hand is not amputated when he steals less than the equivalent of 4.374 grams of gold, from place that does not meet the requirements of security, something that is useless, something that is in general ownership such as water in the river, sticks from the wood, etc�, food that rots very quickly such as milk, meat, fruits, etc�, articles that are unlawful due to the possibility that one had an intention of getting rid of it, such as musical instruments.

The penalty:

The penalty for the one who steals (when the above conditions are met) is that his/her right arm is amputated. If a person steals a second time, his left foot is amputated; if a third time, then he will be imprisoned until he repents, but no further amputation will take place.

Sayyiduna Ali (Allah be pleased with him) says:

�I feel guilty in front of Allah if I leave him without hands (i.e. amputating both) by which he eats, and feet, by which he walks� (Sunan Darqutni, al-Bayhaqi & Musannaf ibn Abi Shayba).

The above are some of the important aspects relating to the penalty of theft. It has been primarily based on the famous Hanafi work al-Ikhtiyar li ta�lil al-Mukhtar, P341-351).

And Allah knows best

Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari
Darul Iftaa, Leicester, UK
http://www.daruliftaa.co.uk

[Hussein53]

WALLAHI Union is MURTAD

Why dont you just do as your cousin (Ayaan Hirsi) and proclaim your apostasy openly and insult Islam, at-least then the somali layman can see you for who you really are.

Instead this devil pretends to be muslim in the attempt to mislead as many ignorant somalis as possible.

PS Nabi Yusuf did not punish his brother because it was him who put the cup in his bag and claimed his brother stole it so he can detain him.
But I bet he knew that but left that vital information out so he can mislead as many muslims as possible.

Union ALLAHs punishment is severe and his FIRE will burn you so fear it; fear a day when you will wish you can return to this world so you can do good deeds.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

WALLAHI Union is MURTAD

Why dont you just do as your cousin (Ayaan Hirsi) and proclaim your apostasy openly and insult Islam, at-least then the somali layman can see you for who you really are.

Instead this devil pretends to be muslim in the attempt to mislead as many ignorant somalis as possible.

PS Nabi Yusuf did not punish his brother because it was him who put the cup in his bag and claimed his brother stole it so he can detain him.
But I bet he knew that but left that vital information out so he can mislead as many muslims as possible.

Union ALLAHs punishment is severe and his FIRE will burn you so fear it; fear a day when you will wish you can return to this world so you can do good deeds.

you stupid idiot what do you use word( walaaahi) do you known whats inside of the minds of people IDIOT?

YOUR commiting majort sin whichs saying i known what people have inside their minds.
your not a god to judge people whos murtad(gaal) and whos not. idiot.

UNION said secular democratic state is better than wahaabi extremist outdated radical islam

yes hes muslim and iam muslim i agree whit him radical muslims are shayaadiins and not real muslims

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WALLAHI Union is MURTAD

Why dont you just do as your cousin (Ayaan Hirsi) and proclaim your apostasy openly and insult Islam, at-least then the somali layman can see you for who you really are.

Instead this devil pretends to be muslim in the attempt to mislead as many ignorant somalis as possible.

PS Nabi Yusuf did not punish his brother because it was him who put the cup in his bag and claimed his brother stole it so he can detain him.
But I bet he knew that but left that vital information out so he can mislead as many muslims as possible.

Union ALLAHs punishment is severe and his FIRE will burn you so fear it; fear a day when you will wish you can return to this world so you can do good deeds.

I don't know what demonic religion you believe in, but I don't follow it. If you think killing innocent, chopping off limbs, stoning women, and bombing crowded markets is proper behavior- then I take refuge from you and whatever you follow.





Once again spot on brother DR-YALAXOOW

[Shirib]

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"Don't cut off a person's limbs intentionally"....is that really turning your world upside down?

Wahabists really live in the 5th century.

what turns my world upside down is this metaphoric cutting off of limbs. Whats next metaphorically pray, and metaphorically fast

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"Don't cut off a person's limbs intentionally"....is that really turning your world upside down?

Wahabists really live in the 5th century.

what turns my world upside down is this metaphoric cutting off of limbs. Whats next metaphorically pray, and metaphorically fast

Hands have always been used as metaphors for means/ability and cutting as well. Only one ayaa in the whole Qu'ran mentions cutting of limbs, and it can be interpreted as metaphorical like my comments before have shown. Regardless, any state that condones the cutting off of limbs is not legitimate and will be fought against.

[Shirib]

dagaalka sii wad unionoow

[Salahuddiin]

Hands have always been used as metaphors for means/ability and cutting as well. Only one ayaa in the whole Qu'ran mentions cutting of limbs, and it can be interpreted as metaphorical like my comments before have shown. Regardless, any state that condones the cutting off of limbs is not legitimate and will be fought against.

Yeah, you metaphorically punish thieves by cutting their hands? That opens a door for questioning every single thing in Qur'an because maybe existence of Allah, prayer, good deeds and everything else is metaphorical and only you know the real meaning and that meaning is exactly the opposite than what Allah said. Here's another aayah about metaphorically killing or metaphorically crucifying and metaphorically cutting of hands and feet:

Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,
(5:33)

Could you please tell what is the real meaning of that? I used to think that Qur'an and Allah's religion were clear, but now you came to change it all with your enlightened intelligence after sitting few years in the school where kuffaar taught you that your father was an ape and you are still half-ape because your curly hair and dark skin and in time your descendants will evolve into a white man. Damn, you should have been there in the time of Prophet (scws) so you could have told him what Allah really meant and could stop him from cutting the hands of thieves. Well, maybe your ancestors were still monkeys in a jungle that time.

If you want to fight against religion and Allah like you said, shouldn't you wait until you evolve into a white man? Your job is quite challenging so I don't recommend that you start it while you are still in incomplete shape.

Lacanakallah ya kafir