NSUM emerge with SSC

[gurey25]

In that case stick with "Dhulbahante lands" and stop parading around with "Sanaag & Sool" When infact there is many tribes who live there.

My people's side of Sanaag & Sool are content with Somaliland.

how hard is it to get this? ssc claims only dhulbahante territoriesonly .we dont claim ceel afweyne of sanaag or caynaba of sool.our bordrs are based on tribal ones and not regional.

dont lie, look at blues comments , above you..
he is talking about keeping all of sanaag and sool becuase he believes in majority rules.!!
While i have no problem with clan border demarcation..

and cheerleading outsiders like voltage continue to make snide remarks like triangle and burco, berbera hargiesa....

I very much doubt that you will be satisfied with your clan borders, you want too keep a united somalia,
so do those that support your from the outside...

they see this as an excuse to defeat isaaq..

I am telling you that we are the only ones interested in peace, because we will accept clan borders for recognition,
but the truth is , the rest of somalis will not..

and this means war, and you will be the unfortunate victims becuase isaaq and gadabursi will not see any fighting on their lands, it will be you....


If you are sincere about peace, you should push for clan borders and accept seperation of somaliland..

[samadoon-waaxid]

In that case stick with "Dhulbahante lands" and stop parading around with "Sanaag & Sool" When infact there is many tribes who live there.

My people's side of Sanaag & Sool are content with Somaliland.

how hard is it to get this? ssc claims only dhulbahante territoriesonly .we dont claim ceel afweyne of sanaag or caynaba of sool.our bordrs are based on tribal ones and not regional.

dont lie, look at blues comments , above you..
he is talking about keeping all of sanaag and sool becuase he believes in majority rules.!!
While i have no problem with clan border demarcation..

and cheerleading outsiders like voltage continue to make snide remarks like triangle and burco, berbera hargiesa....

I very much doubt that you will be satisfied with your clan borders, you want too keep a united somalia,
so do those that support your from the outside...

they see this as an excuse to defeat isaaq..

I am telling you that we are the only ones interested in peace, because we will accept clan borders for recognition,
but the truth is , the rest of somalis will not..

and this means war, and you will be the unfortunate victims becuase isaaq and gadabursi will not see any fighting on their lands, it will be you....


If you are sincere about peace, you should push for clan borders and accept seperation of somaliland..

Blue is Gidibiirsi,the man was stating his personal opinion.
your feelings are misplaced,Dhulbahante have a clean track record of not invading neighboring clans territories,even during the MOD era,when we could abuse power.we were never interested in it.
again,you contradicting yourself.how could you be expansionist in the name of recognition and believe in clans border demarcation(which is what we as SSC are seeking) in the same time.I'm not really sure u really understand the issue at hand here.

[gurey25]

what is it that you dont understand?
i have been very clear..

We want recognition of our independance, Colonial borders are a vehicle for this..
Its not our intention to conquer your land, if it was, we would let the clan millitias loose and it will be like the south were clan borders are unstable...

NOw i have said that if it means that the dhulos and warsangeli wish to join somalia, you will take with you your own clan lands. Eastern sool and eastern sanaag.


is that too much to understand???

The problem i am pointing out is that this solution will be accepted by Isaaq but not by any somali government,
meaning we are all wasting our time here,...

the problem is not isaaq its everyone else..

Indepenance is non negotiable.

[samadoon-waaxid]

what is it that you dont understand?
i have been very clear..

We want recognition of our independance, Colonial borders are a vehicle for this..
Its not our intention to conquer your land, if it was, we would let the clan millitias loose and it will be like the south were clan borders are unstable...

NOw i have said that if it means that the dhulos and warsangeli wish to join somalia, you will take with you your own clan lands. Eastern sool and eastern sanaag.


is that too much to understand???

The problem i am pointing out is that this solution will be accepted by Isaaq but not by any somali government,
meaning we are all wasting our time here,...

the problem is not isaaq its everyone else..

Indepenance is non negotiable.

I was referinig to ur earlier comments in support of maintaining colonial powers,before u withdraw to a border demarcation stance.and making ur case with your triangle territories is ur issue,ssc has nothing to do with it.in fact did it occur to you the fact that your elders look for ictiraaf in Addis and london instead of xamar why ur case never fell to a listening ears? its no brainer.somaliland's first stop for ictiraaf is coming in peaceful terms with the ssc people and withdrawing their militas then forging good relationshiop with villa somalia.thats THE only way to go

[gurey25]

what villa somalia,,, there is no somalia..

when you get a functioning government that controls somalia, call us.

[Rightwing]

Guray,
I couldn't have said it better myself

is that too much to understand???

The problem i am pointing out is that this solution will be accepted by Isaaq but not by any somali government,
meaning we are all wasting our time here,...

the problem is not isaaq its everyone else..

Indepenance is non negotiable.

[Blue_609]

dont lie, look at blues comments , above you..

i was very clear regarding regional boarders and i made my opinion in response to SL hypocrisy that claims colonial borders against the well of many ppl in certain regions.
look at SL official map do u see any tribal borders? no

is that too much to understand???

The problem i am pointing out is that this solution will be accepted by Isaaq but not by any somali government,
meaning we are all wasting our time here,...

the problem is not isaaq its everyone else..

Indepenance is non negotiable.

why are u correlating SL independence with accepting SSC clan borders ? SL independence from xamar is one thing and SSC is completely a different thing,
regardless whether SL is recognized or not it should not claim or stick to the colonial borders.
the problem is in SL.

[samadoon-waaxid]

dont lie, look at blues comments , above you..

i was very clear regarding regional boarders and i made my opinion in response to SL hypocrisy that claims colonial borders against the well of many ppl in certain regions.
look at SL official map do u see any tribal borders? no

is that too much to understand???

The problem i am pointing out is that this solution will be accepted by Isaaq but not by any somali government,
meaning we are all wasting our time here,...

the problem is not isaaq its everyone else..

Indepenance is non negotiable.

why are u correlating SL independence with accepting SSC clan borders ? SL independence from xamar is one thing and SSC is completely a different thing,
regardless whether SL is recognized or not it should not claim or stick to the colonial borders.
the problem is in SL.

well said bro

[abdikarim86]

dont lie, look at blues comments , above you..

i was very clear regarding regional boarders and i made my opinion in response to SL hypocrisy that claims colonial borders against the well of many ppl in certain regions.
look at SL official map do u see any tribal borders? no

is that too much to understand???

The problem i am pointing out is that this solution will be accepted by Isaaq but not by any somali government,
meaning we are all wasting our time here,...

the problem is not isaaq its everyone else..

Indepenance is non negotiable.

why are u correlating SL independence with accepting SSC clan borders ? SL independence from xamar is one thing and SSC is completely a different thing,
regardless whether SL is recognized or not it should not claim or stick to the colonial borders.
the problem is in SL.

What do you mean the SSC issue and Somaliland don't correlate?

We want independence, and the dhulbahanta rightfully want unity.
Does it not make sense then to demarcate the border
and tie the SSC issue and Somaliland togather?

keep talking like that and dagaal baa meesha lagu kala tagi, no fighting will occur in our lands
only yours

teeda kale don't pretend do be samaroon aabahaa taraafiicda ka wase

[gurey25]

somaliweynists and isaaq haters thought they could corner us with the SSC issue and checkmate us..
but because the fact that we are able to consider border corrections if linked to recognition, we have turned it to an advantage...


ofocurse i do not expect any of this to happen, somalis as a whole and especially southerners are generally unreasonable , even with a case as clearcut and reasonable as this .. and they will not accept this ..the result will probably be war in the future, and we are as good at war as we are at making peace...

[LusciousBella]

My harti cousins are succeeding, GUUL SSC!!!

[Babygirl-]

Why is it so hard to understand we don't want other peoples land you can have your villages and towns..it you who is the problem & claiming our lands because the british ruled them! are you the british?

LOOL @ the war will take place in your lands and not ours! the last time i checked we were neighbours and what happens in our land will spread to yours.

[Siciid85]

sool sanag has no relation to SL since 1- ppl dont want to be part of it 2- SL did nothing for those regions they just claim it to maintain thei 1960 borders and perhaps have a solid case for their recognition.

Are you trying to deny my people's existence in those regions? well tough luck. We live there , have great influence and there is nothing you or your likes can do about it expect delusional talks in cyber.

isdaji why u pissed !
yeah some of your group may live there but what im tryin to say is who can determine the fate of those regions..is it your ppl or the majority ?

There is a reason why Somaliland controls a large portions of those regions since 1991. Don't get it twisted.

[Babygirl-]

Land-

Sanaag 50%-50% (Warsan,Dhulos vs Isaaq)
Sool 90%-10% (Dhulos vs Isaaq)
Cayn 99%-1% Dhulos vs Isaaq)

We don't want your parts only ours clan borders i don't see why this is hard to understand.

[Siciid85]

This is how it looks like Sool without the Isaaq areas (Western Sool & parts of Northern Sool) - Caynabo, Oog, & Bohol areas).