The war over Daroor 1901- Garhajis Hawd vs Ogaden Hawd

[HaragWafi85]

Shift it wasn't a stalemate because you lost the land.

[The_Emperior5]

Shift, Emperior waa HA, ragan kale na waa HY. ama o tiri Emperior indhobadan, ama raga HY Iska celi, o wax soo tur..

You do not understand the political Culture in the hawd , Shift is reer cabdulle the whole point of the discussion Cali iyo haarun fought Garxajis, a reer Cabulle man will not take credit for what a reer isaaq did calashan wuxu ku leeyahay waxanu nahay waarso iyo naato oo kala dawlado ah wax fahan dee

[Shift]

Waa runtaa oo atleast we can agree we store history in our memory bank,but that bank once in blue moon gets raided,you know who the theive is When we say reer isaaq vs garxajis than turn around and compare garxajis to kablalax,we are keeping things in perspective suldaan.On one hand we are right as history teaches us mar na waa cali vs garxajis marna waa haruun vs garxajis.On the other hand garxajis while in bar with kablalax abtirsi ahaan is inferior otherwise.

Haadaad iso fahmaysa laakin meel ba wali wax kaga dhimanyihin markay reer isaaq iyo garxajis sidad adigu u dhigtay ay is dirirayan,, ma gudboona abtirisin sax, laakin markay la simanyihin garxajis wa kablalax. kablalax na wa darood badankisa , Xisaabtan is qabanayn marka ma calashan waxanu u dhigi karna garxajiska hawd dega waxay is fooda is daran cali iyo haaarun iyo cabdilliyo makahil sanadaha qaar , markay doonana Bicidyahan, dhanka kale na harti wa is galan kolkey doonaan, Marka Kablalax laftigeeda way is arkeen, Maan didiin inad taqanin sida geela loo dhaco waad taqanin qolyaha kale na wa yaqanin. taasi wa caadi laakin waxaynu ka hadlayni sida la isku galo oo fooda la is daro.

Ha iga sugin inaan kablalax iyo isaaq isku meel dhigo anoo maxamed subeer vs isaaq diidan,what got me started is tariikhda sida foosha xun loo kufsan.I like to think of my self as one who rescues history when it falls into the hands of pedo.
Dhul la igama qaadan geelna la igama qaadan,to this day nin aan i oran 'abti macaan" shaah ilama cabo,and you know its the honest truth.

Honest,

Caano beele waxba haku riixin sacad muuse ceeb iyo daawasho waad wada qabteen ee.
Indhobadane ma cirkaan soo mariyey mise dhulka hoostiisa?,didnt i drive it through idoor land?,maxuu garxajis uga danqan waayey?ILAX.

[HaragWafi85]

Daaroodka qaarkood ayaa leh waxa dagaalamayay Garxajis iyo Reer Isaaq. Haye, kabasoo qaada inay Garxajis iyo Reer Isaaq dagaalamayeen. Reer Isaaq miyaanay tol lahayn? hadday tol leeyihiin maxaa loo caawin waayay?
Garxajis markay 1870 dhul balaadhsiga bilaabeen xuduuda ma dhaafsiisnayn laakiin waxay qabsadeen ilaa doollo, danood, Awaare iyo Daroor. Waa dhul 500 km xuduuda somaliland ka baxsan. Dhulka intaa baaxadiisu leegtahay marka reer Isaaq laga qaadayay Ogadenka kale iyo Daarood maxay ugu gurman waayeen? Daarodow beenta iyo khayaaliga iska daaya Ogaden oo dhan ayaa dagaalamayay laakiin waa laga xoog batay oo dhulkaa xoog ayaa lagu qabsaday.

Well put Kaliil.

[razer]

darood and isaaq are not even close..most isaaq have on average 25 abtiriso to sh Isaaq when the darood it varies but average atleast 35 generations.all somali clans have assimilated some clans but the Qabiil most noted for doing this and creating members is Darood.Back to the topic from my own analysis isaaq specifically espeacially gerxagis took large swathes of land from the ogaden in that war and subsequent ones but they did not hold to all of it but its still a win cause they increased the lands.

And every ogaden i meet know that if their not kidding themselves you guys with the help of the Somali government and army tried to get revenge by resetlling in the millions and trying to take over Isaaq territory covertly but that failed and know it seems you guys have given up on your fight for freedom but opted for self rule within ethiopia.