the badicadde and gaaljecel were in turn driven out by hawadle

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the badicadde and gaaljecel were in turn driven out by hawadle
like i said before if you deny the pre-hawiye/samaale theory i will deny the hawiye irir theory.RovingMadness wrote:Pre-Hawiye is a theory- a very laughable & unsubstantiated theory with absolutely no historical groundings. Xawadle is not older than Hiraab. It does not even come close.
Xawadle fighting Ajuuraan is a mystery to me. The Gugubdhabe defeated the Ajuuraan in the Middle Shabelle Valley & then they were routed by the Mudulood & pushed down south.
These challenges led to the fragmentation of Ajuran unity; the Abgal (Gurgate Hawiyya) took control of the hinterland of Mogadishu and eventually the town itself; the El-Amir (probably Hirab Hawiyya) assumed power in Merka, the Sil’is (Gurgate) near Afgoy, and the Galjaal and Badi Ado (Guggundabe Hawiyya) along the mid-Shebelle.
The Moobleen went on to conquer new regions alone without the support & participation of the Mudulood family. They had to fight Gaaljecel & Baadicade single-handedly even though they were outnumbered. Traditional Mudulood narratives tell the story of the secluded & inward-looking Moobleen
The magic that is written, the reflection that has been inherited from the fathers, and the reckoning of the genealogies: for these three things the Abgal ‘Isman are noted. Nice greetings, food even nicer, and deceptions to the cost of the people which are being plotted: for these three things the Wa‘dan ‘Isman are noted. To remain in his own house, to cultivate his own field, to refuse hospitality: for these three things the Mobilen are noted.Scorched forehead, light hand, and, if you touch them, they crowd against you: for these three things the Hillibi Darandólla are noted.
“I went to raid the vehemence in the tribe of the Mobilen”
The Mobilen, the singer says, are famous for the qoq, that is, the facility with which they become excited ( qoq ) , in the dialects of the Hawiyya, is properly speaking the period of heat of animals.
It was not until the arrival of Wacdaan Osman Darandoole & Abgaal Osman Darandoole that the Gugubdhabe were pushed & today Moobleen lives in the Middle Shabelle Region in the midst of Wacdaan & Abgaal.
When you say "how can the tiny protect the mighty" I see it as nothing more than silly chest-beating. Are you seriously calling Mudulood tiny & Xawadle mighty? At this point I don't even know if you are being serious or deluded by your stupid attempt to invent a random & fictitious clan history simply to appeal to insecurities. Xawadle are respectable & honorable clan that share history, genealogy & regions with Mudulood. I do not understand what inspires your petty attempt to mischaracterize, attack & invent lies about Mudulood. It's uncalled for & reflects badly upon you & Xawadle. You should be ashamed of yourself
sahal80 wrote:like i said before if you deny the pre-hawiye/samaale theory i will deny the hawiye irir theory.RovingMadness wrote:Pre-Hawiye is a theory- a very laughable & unsubstantiated theory with absolutely no historical groundings. Xawadle is not older than Hiraab. It does not even come close.
Xawadle fighting Ajuuraan is a mystery to me. The Gugubdhabe defeated the Ajuuraan in the Middle Shabelle Valley & then they were routed by the Mudulood & pushed down south.
These challenges led to the fragmentation of Ajuran unity; the Abgal (Gurgate Hawiyya) took control of the hinterland of Mogadishu and eventually the town itself; the El-Amir (probably Hirab Hawiyya) assumed power in Merka, the Sil’is (Gurgate) near Afgoy, and the Galjaal and Badi Ado (Guggundabe Hawiyya) along the mid-Shebelle.
The Moobleen went on to conquer new regions alone without the support & participation of the Mudulood family. They had to fight Gaaljecel & Baadicade single-handedly even though they were outnumbered. Traditional Mudulood narratives tell the story of the secluded & inward-looking Moobleen
The magic that is written, the reflection that has been inherited from the fathers, and the reckoning of the genealogies: for these three things the Abgal ‘Isman are noted. Nice greetings, food even nicer, and deceptions to the cost of the people which are being plotted: for these three things the Wa‘dan ‘Isman are noted. To remain in his own house, to cultivate his own field, to refuse hospitality: for these three things the Mobilen are noted.Scorched forehead, light hand, and, if you touch them, they crowd against you: for these three things the Hillibi Darandólla are noted.
“I went to raid the vehemence in the tribe of the Mobilen”
The Mobilen, the singer says, are famous for the qoq, that is, the facility with which they become excited ( qoq ) , in the dialects of the Hawiyya, is properly speaking the period of heat of animals.
It was not until the arrival of Wacdaan Osman Darandoole & Abgaal Osman Darandoole that the Gugubdhabe were pushed & today Moobleen lives in the Middle Shabelle Region in the midst of Wacdaan & Abgaal.
When you say "how can the tiny protect the mighty" I see it as nothing more than silly chest-beating. Are you seriously calling Mudulood tiny & Xawadle mighty? At this point I don't even know if you are being serious or deluded by your stupid attempt to invent a random & fictitious clan history simply to appeal to insecurities. Xawadle are respectable & honorable clan that share history, genealogy & regions with Mudulood. I do not understand what inspires your petty attempt to mischaracterize, attack & invent lies about Mudulood. It's uncalled for & reflects badly upon you & Xawadle. You should be ashamed of yourself
i had seen alot of complited hawadle history in same facebook but the facebook is not working now for 2 years, i just can tell you what i read that the hiraab was the eternal enemy of hawaadle and was at war with hiraab from the dawn of history so they didnt join the hiraab and gugundhabe coalition againist ajuuraan because ajuuraan had helped xawaadle againist cawramale who first settled in hiiraan before moving into the jubbas.
no i meant the tiny mobileen not the mighty abgaal, you said that it was the mobileen who protected us do you know there was no one mobileen village in hiiraan back in the 1990s and that they had first settled in jawiil back in the early 2000? and that it was the xawaadle ugaas who said let them have their own village? i know they have been scattered in hiiraan and somaligalbeed but this tiny clan has no power to protect hawaadle who made his own road in the middle of different ethnicities.
this is the scattered mobileen.
http://operationoverload.wordpress.com/ ... -mudulood/
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i can post for you others like gardheere, garjente samaale so how come you dont accept these ilmo samaale ancestors and only accept the irir samaale bullshit?Addoow wrote:Roving Madness,Why are Arguing with Something who cant differentiate b.w Moobleen cismaan and ujejen??:lol:
Maayle samaale is a bulls hit theory made up by eelay back in the day.