The Return of the Jebertis

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Re: The Return of the Jebertis

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Are you really this dense or do you play a retard online?

Reread your post and spot the irony, and then my jokes will all make sense inshallah.

If not, I suggest an intensive remedial course of hooked on phonics :up:
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What irony so now azania is a real clan state that exists elaborate Based udubland has more credibility :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The Return of the Jebertis

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Jesus Christ

I refuse to believe you're this dumb :lol:
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Based wrote:Jesus Christ

I refuse to believe you're this dumb :lol:
:lol: you are trying to reason with people that doesnt reason well.
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Based wrote:Jesus Christ

I refuse to believe you're this dumb :lol:
:lol: you are trying to reason with people that doesnt reason well.
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Re: The Return of the Jebertis

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Guys lets go back to the topic and forget about the imaginary clan state called azania :lol:

The returns of the jebertis and the reaction of the Hawiye kingdom
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Re: The Return of the Jebertis

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xamar is the capital, all of our money is invested in the capital and foreign investors will come to xamar to do business so we want our piece of the pie. xamar is a shared, however u wont find a single jeberti in hobyo :lol: :lol: :lol:.
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khalid ali wrote:Abdisamad that would've all been nice but hey Somalis do not trust each other and as long there is no trust there is no Somalia every one is suspicious of his neighbor.For instance Imam Hutuking doesnt trust people from you're tribe and tribesmen from you're tribe dont trust imam hutuking just read the comments of FBI Somalia if its readable.Thats why murax wants to move away some where far :lol: from Xamar and hawiyes. Somalis need to work on the trust here we have meto who talks about civilization while his clan created an imaginary clan state called Azania ama kuwi siineystey and as the welcome the most disgusting bantus Kenyan into the lower juba doing their ritual dhaanto dance for the Kikuyos Yet he talks about civilization while he wants to screw his own kin using Kenyans :lol:
in an ideal world Somalia is enough for every one heck there was even a time 60% of the Somali population lived in xamar. But as long as there is no trust you have nothing no nation no unity no Somalia.

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Re: The Return of the Jebertis

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Avicenna,

I get Your points but I think more in the present. All the things You say cosmopolitan, advanced infrastructure over the rest of Somalia among other things are different now. Where Has before Xamar was the hub and the rest of Somali towns spokes, today You have hubs in other parts of Somalia that rival if not surpass Xamar. The eye of the 21 years and counting civil war was Xamar and how to pacify it. The old saying goes 'If it ain't broke, then don't fix it'. The only point I'm saying is Yea its broke, and we better damn fix it.
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Re: The Return of the Jebertis

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Avicenna You might think this is crackpot theory but its not as crazy as it looks, and it is not unprecedented at all. Nigeria moved their Capital from Lagos (Notoriously, and still today one of the most dangerous cities in Nigeria, Ring a bell?) to Abuja. Allah knows the issues cited here for Lagos 'lack of location centrality, lack of cosmopolitan orientation' are far from Xamars only woes.



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Historical Development: Changing a nation's capital to a new place is an issue that is considered as part of an evolutionary


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life of a nation. Countries like Brazil, Australia and Cote D'lvoire have, for instance, thought it necessary to have their capitals shifted to Brasilia. Canberra and Yamoussoukuro respectively, in order to address the apparent inadequacies of the traditional capital cities of the respective countries.

In Nigeria, many had for long observed that Lagos as a federal capital suffered several drawbacks which made its continued existence as Nigeria's capital untenable (NIBC, 1998). Reasons for this include: inadequate land for expansion, urban crises, lack of proper cosmopolitan orientation, lack of locational centrality and urban congestion. It was however, only in 1975 that the Federal Government thought it timely enough to initiate a process towards finding a lasting solution to these problems.


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Precisely on 9th August, 1975, the then Head of State, General Murtala Mohammed, set up a panel to examine the issue of a new federal capital for Nigeria. The seven man panel (Dr. Akinola Aguda, Chairman; Chief E. E. Nsefik, Secretary; Dr. Tai Solarin, Professor 0. K. Ogan, Colonel M. P.Professor A. Gandonu, Members) that was set up after collecting memoranda and extensive deliberations, submitted a unanimous recommendation to the Government for siting the new federal capital at Abuja. Less than two months after its submission, the Panel's recommendation was accepted by the Federal Government, formally accepting Abuja as the new Federal Capital.

However, in order to avoid confusion since this name was already being borne s Government renamed the latter town/emirate as Suleja. On 3rd February 1976, General Mohammed made a historic national broadcast on the issue and on 5th February, 1976, Decree No. 6 of 1976 was promulgated by the Federal Government establishing the Federal Capital Development Authority (FCDA). The Decree charged the FCDA with the responsibility for planning, designing and developing the Federal Capital Territory (FCT).


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The decree a went ahead to vest the ownership, control and governance of the territory in the hands of the Federal a Government. From that period, construction of the new federal capital began in earnest and since then successive administrations have placed very hiqh priority on making Abuja a reality. In fact, Alhaji Shehu Shagari who ruled the country from 1979 to 1983, made this a fundamental component of his campaign promises, which he however did not fulfil.

It was General lbrahim Babangida, Nigeria's President from 1985 to 1993, that formally and finally moved the seat of Government from Lagos to Abuja on 12th December 1991. Abuja (FCT) covers an area of 8,000 sq. km. This makes it more than twice the area of Lagos State. According to the Aguda panel, this vast area was considered necessary in order to allow room not just for the capital city but also for a city region that will provide most of the needs of the city, including water, forestry, industrial, agricultural, open spaces, defence, air transport and other needs.

As at now, the Federal Capital City (FCC) is planned to cover an area of about 250 sq. kms, while the rest of the Territory of the city region covers about 7,750 sq. kms. The entire Territory itself was carved out from three states, namely, Niger State which contributed seventynine percent of the land area and seventyone percent of the indigenous population, Nassarawa State which contributed sixteen percent and twentyone percent respectively, and Kogi State which made a contribution of five percent and eight percent respectively. Until the creation of the FCT, the area was among the least developed in the country, lacking any form of developmental amenity and infra structure. Things are now changing at a pace hardly matched by any other part of the country.

Administrative Areas: During the precolonial period, the various ethnic groups in the area which now forms the FCT were administered as autonomous kingdoms in their various locations. Such kingdoms had some diverse interethnic, political and economic relations. Such external influences as slave trade, the jihad and colonial administration changed the pattern and structure of this indigenous administration.

With the coming of the colonial administration, administrative heads were created for the various units. Under this set up, commonly referred to as the Native Authority (NA) system, emirates were established with emirs and chiefs as heads of the various administrative units that were designated as emirates. These units were further broken into districts, headed by district heads. Prior to 1996, the FCT had four area councils, namely Abaji, Gwagwalada, Kuje and Municipal. In 1996, two more area councils were created, namely Kwali (from Gwagwalada) and Bwari (from Municipal area Council). Each area council is now headed by an elected Executive Chairman.
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Re: The Return of the Jebertis

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Voltage, Quark, Abdisamad: Thank You. One of the reasons I pretty much gave up political talk on Snet is due to being accused of 'cuqdad' every time You wanna keep it real. Either You have to sit back and not respond to nonsense or become a "cuqdadlaabe". Rational discourse is not a option :lol:



AbgalKing,

Bro Xamar is a nice city, and I think can play a very important role in Somalia. That being said magaalada uma qalanto magaalo madax.


Abdalla11,

Ama meesha caqli soo keen ama fadhlan get out of here with foolish one liners.

Greenday,

Neceb is a strong word. I had a Chevy Cavilier I brought as My first car that broke done on me quickly. If I saw the car was a lemon did I hate the car? No, and just like My Chevy Cavilier was a dissapointment to Me, Xamar as the Capital of Somalia for the past 21 years is and will dissapoint them.
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Re: The Return of the Jebertis

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Murax waa maxay xanaaqa? For months i and other puntlanders have been prophesizing about the relocation of the capital city/the seat of government (which will come true). I was just suprised that you´re a staunch supporter of that idea as well
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Re: The Return of the Jebertis

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abdalla11 wrote:Murax waa maxay xanaaqa? For months i and other puntlanders have been prophesizing about the relocation of the capital city/the seat of government (which will come true). I was just suprised that you´re a staunch supporter of that idea as well

Well I thought You were lending credence to the fake notion that I somehow have it out for Xamar, and am not speaking matter of fact. Since that wasn't the case, then my bad.
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Re: The Return of the Jebertis

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Murax - I will respectfully disagree. Don't believe in fatalism. Nor have I ever had defeatist attitudes.

In time and with a strong central government, Somalia's balance will be restored. It's inevitable and natural for things to resume their origins.

Inshallah.
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Re: The Return of the Jebertis

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Daroods such as Avicenna and Warya are much welcome in the city. They are not destroyed by hatred ama cuqdad.

But problem starts when siyadist dooros like voltage and marax, hardcore punanis like abdalbitch and abdisamad ibn bintilander settles xamar and they are claiming the city.
Then wa rabbal ka3bah, we have a problem.

No way that a city can hold together siyadists/bintilanders and Pan-hawiyists.
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