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Re: Do you have individual Somalis you admire

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:28 pm
by gemini07
XimanJaale wrote:
gemini07 wrote:dr. abdiweli mohamed ali and his wife dr. hodan isse.
ur were told to name a individual not a couple :lol: :lol:
they get a pass because they're a power couple.

Re: Do you have individual Somalis you admire

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:32 pm
by XimanJaale
gemini07 wrote:
XimanJaale wrote:
gemini07 wrote:dr. abdiweli mohamed ali and his wife dr. hodan isse.
ur were told to name a individual not a couple :lol: :lol:
they get a pass because they're a power couple.
:lol: :lol: ooh woow

Re: Do you have individual Somalis you admire

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:36 pm
by Arabmann
Grant wrote:The Sahaba may have had a few families in a few coastal towns. Omanis controlled the coastal towns when their ships were in port. It was not in their interest to have Muslims among the slaved populations. Islam reached the inland parts of southern Somalia only in Sheik Aweys' time.

It was his writings that were so important, especially in combating the influences of Christian missionaries and ending the Arab branch of the slave trade.

Of course, I'm sure you will take the position of the Salihiya, that Aweys, as a Sufi and a member of the Banidiir Ulema, was a purveyor of shirk and should properly be ignored. I disagree.
I dunno where you got the incorrect infos. For instance, the following excerpt contradicts what you claimed about Aweys combating the influences of Christian missionaries:
One response was to stress a return to orthodox Muslim traditions and to oppose Westernization totally. The Sufi brotherhoods were at the forefront of this movement, personified in Somalia by Mohammed Abdullah Hassan in the early 1900s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_S ... _and_after

The following is the only line mentioned about Aweys in the entire article:
Outstanding figures of the Qadiriyah in Somalia included Shaykh Awes Mahammad Baraawi (d. 1909), who spread the teaching of the Sufi order in the southern interior. He wrote much devotional poetry in Arabic and attempted to translate traditional hymns from Arabic into Somali, working out his own phonetic system.
He only spread the teaching of the Sufi order in the Southern interior; no mention about converting non-Muslims. No mention at all about him combating the influences of Christian missionaries. Furthermore, the Ajuuraan state*, which was an Islamic state, controlled a large swath of Somalia's interior, including the two rivers and surroundings; a clear proof Islam reached hinterland Somalis way before Aweys' time.

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajuuraan_State

Re: Do you have individual Somalis you admire

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:06 am
by daiman
So many people!
There are some people mentioned here who I never heard of like nabees buundo (Shirib, this is on your list).
I am stuck here. I cannot think of anyone and that is shame! may be I have not got to know a good person :lol:

Re: Do you have individual Somalis you admire

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:10 am
by Enlightened~Sista
hyperactive wrote:none, good somali is dead somali!

:lol: :lol:

Re: Do you have individual Somalis you admire

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 7:10 am
by AbdiWahab252
Hassan Aden Samatar 8-)

Re: Do you have individual Somalis you admire

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 7:39 am
by Enlightened~Sista
BlackVelvet wrote:

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Meet Dr. Hawa Abdi Dhiblawe, a 60-year-old family doctor who has treated, often for no charge, thousands of poor women and children in Somalia for over quarter of a century. She runs the Dr. Hawa Abdi clinic, located between Mogadishu and Afgoye.

Joining Dr. Dhiblawe’s family clinic are her two young daughters, Dr. Amina Mohamed Abdi, and most recently, Dr. Deqa Mohamed Abdi. All three now work in the clinic.
Hawa Abdi Foundation


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The Hawa Abdi Foundation was one of the first NGOs to open in Somalia, and aims to provide quality health care, education that the local nurses and midwives need, and aid the empowerment of women in their communities.

The goal of Dr. Hawa Abdi, the driving force behind the Hawa Abdi Foundation and Hawa Abdi Village, was to help women in Somalia, and especially in the Lower Shabelle area to have better access to health care and education. When the war started, she started to try to provide safety to those seeking shelter on her land.


The only individuals worth admiring. :up: :up: kuwa kale maba garaneyyo. :?

Re: Do you have individual Somalis you admire

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 8:34 am
by The_Emperior5
President Siilanyo
President Cigaal
Sheikh Adan Siiro
President Adan Cabdulla Cismaan
Imam Axmed Ibrahim Al ghazi
Salax malaydiray
Sultan Diiriye
Ali Jamaac Haabil
Ismaciil xayd Aflow
Sheikh Bashiir Yusuf
Axmed Guray Xuseyn
President Abdirashid ali sharmarke
General Maxammad farax caydiid
Sultaan Timacade
Axmed Jimcaale
Xiino Xiiray Jamac
Xaaji Muuse Farax Igare.

Re: Do you have individual Somalis you admire

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 8:37 am
by CaynabaX
Mudane Madaxweyne Siilaanyo
Sheekh Bashiir
Maxamuud Cali Fadal
Maxamed Nuur Fadal
Gammuute
Dhuux Baraar
Salaan Carrabey
Salebaan Gaal
Kite Fiqi
Ina Sanweyne
Xirsi cali xaaji xasan

Re: Do you have individual Somalis you admire

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 9:59 am
by Shirib
daiman wrote:So many people!
There are some people mentioned here who I never heard of like nabees buundo (Shirib, this is on your list).
I am stuck here. I cannot think of anyone and that is shame! may be I have not got to know a good person :lol:
Nasiib Bunto was an anti colonialist, he fought against the Italians and established a resistance movement and a settlement in Gosha. I believe the Italians ended up killing him. There was a street in Xamar named after him. Allah ha u naxriisto.

Re: Do you have individual Somalis you admire

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 10:15 am
by Hepburn
I truly admire my grandfather and father. :up:

Re: Do you have individual Somalis you admire

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 10:26 am
by Shirib
Hepburn wrote:I truly admire my grandfather and father. :up:
and you admire Shirib, don't lie to the people

Re: Do you have individual Somalis you admire

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 10:33 am
by waryaa
Iman

Re: Do you have individual Somalis you admire

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 11:07 am
by Grant
Arabman wrote:
Grant wrote:The Sahaba may have had a few families in a few coastal towns. Omanis controlled the coastal towns when their ships were in port. It was not in their interest to have Muslims among the slaved populations. Islam reached the inland parts of southern Somalia only in Sheik Aweys' time.

It was his writings that were so important, especially in combating the influences of Christian missionaries and ending the Arab branch of the slave trade.

Of course, I'm sure you will take the position of the Salihiya, that Aweys, as a Sufi and a member of the Banidiir Ulema, was a purveyor of shirk and should properly be ignored. I disagree.
I dunno where you got the incorrect infos. For instance, the following excerpt contradicts what you claimed about Aweys combating the influences of Christian missionaries:
One response was to stress a return to orthodox Muslim traditions and to oppose Westernization totally. The Sufi brotherhoods were at the forefront of this movement, personified in Somalia by Mohammed Abdullah Hassan in the early 1900s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_S ... _and_after

The following is the only line mentioned about Aweys in the entire article:
Outstanding figures of the Qadiriyah in Somalia included Shaykh Awes Mahammad Baraawi (d. 1909), who spread the teaching of the Sufi order in the southern interior. He wrote much devotional poetry in Arabic and attempted to translate traditional hymns from Arabic into Somali, working out his own phonetic system.
He only spread the teaching of the Sufi order in the Southern interior; no mention about converting non-Muslims. No mention at all about him combating the influences of Christian missionaries. Furthermore, the Ajuuraan state*, which was an Islamic state, controlled a large swath of Somalia's interior, including the two rivers and surroundings; a clear proof Islam reached hinterland Somalis way before Aweys' time.

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajuuraan_State
:lol: The Salihiya vs. the Qadiriya. The 60's Somali state tried to make a national hero out of MAH, which we know today was made up malarky. MAH was a Dhulbahante leader much influenced by the Najdian philosophy. Aweys was broadly educated in the Sudan and Iraq, wrote extensively, and even developed a script to translate Arabic into Somali. MAH had Aweys murdered in 1909, after an exchange of derogatory remarks in which Mah accused Aweys of shirk and Aweys accused Mah of womanizing and other unIslamic behavior. They were both vying for the top religious position in Somalia, and they couldn't have been more opposed. And, of course, there is a difference of opinion today.

Here's an article typical of those describing Aweys from the perspective of the Qadiriya"

http://ashaacira.wordpress.com/taariikh ... th-afrika/

You will kindly notice, that, in spite of the attitude of the government and international scholars that promoted MAH as a national hero at Aweys' expense, a million visitors a year perform siyarro at his grave in Biyooley every year.

Also note this quote from a Southerner on the occasion of the handover of Afgoe to the ICU:

http://ashaacira.wordpress.com/taariikh ... th-afrika/

"The wishy-washy attitude of the ICU towards the Lower Shabelle region is a clear sign of the ICU’s weakness towards distinguishing between faith and clan loyalty. The lower Shabelle is known to have the highest religious scholars in any region of Somalia. For those of you who are not aware, I like to jog your memory that SHEIKH AWEYS AL-QADIRI- the father of Islam in Somalia was born and raised in Lower Shabelle. Cities like Merca and Barawe in the Lower Shabelle used to be or are still the Mecca of Islam in Somalia."

Distinguishing between Islamic teaching and Sufi teaching in the interior of southern Somalia during Aweys day is a subtle piece of misdirection. The nearest and best educated Somalis were Sufis. The interior was largely still Waaqist and escaped animist slaves from the Geledi plantations. For Muslims, the same choices exist today that existed then. You have the Salihiya, represented by the Shabaab, and the Sufis, represented by Ahlu Sunna wahl Jama'a.

Don't confuse your own political choices with reality. Here's the history:

http://beeshadireed.blogspot.co.uk/2011 ... a-and.html

Re: Do you have individual Somalis you admire

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 11:17 am
by daiman
The_Emperior5 wrote: Sheikh Adan Siiro
President Adan Cabdulla Cismaan
Imam Axmed Ibrahim Al ghazi
President Abdirashid ali sharmarke
Sultaan Timacade
.

(Salax malaydiray
Sultan Diiriye
Ali Jamaac Haabil
Ismaciil xayd Aflow
Sheikh Bashiir Yusuf
Axmed Guray Xuseyn
Axmed Jimcaale
Xiino Xiiray Jamac
Xaaji Muuse Farax Igare)

No clue who they were, but i edited the rest of your list :lol:

Shirib,
Thanks for the info.

Waryaa,

I am sure there is something to admire about Imaan--her beauty- :lol: I really mean it.