Did you know Sayid Muhammad Abdulla Hassan was a sufi?

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Re: Did you know Sayid Muhammad Abdulla Hassan was a sufi?

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khalid ali wrote:Mohammad Abdullah hassan cannot be called a sufi he was a sufi as in the saalihiya order follower of Mohammad ibn salah but he developed his own little form of Salihiya he was ousted from the saalihiya order by Mohammad ibn salih , The crazy Mullah became later a takfiri which was contradicting with Mohammad ibn salihs saliyaha order.
Ibn Saalix had no clue what was going on in Somalia. The entire somali tribes, except a few, were allied either with the british, the ethiopians, or the italians.
Even his own tribe, the majority (maxamed subeer) were gainst him and even tried to kill him. They invited him for counsel trying to ambush him, and so knowing their treachery his sent out Abbas, one of his favorite colonels that look like him. THe maxamed subeer then killed Cabbas thinking they had killed the Sayyid until later they found out he was still alive.

To pay back, he told them that they were his "Children" and wronged, and that he had forgiven them for their wrong doings. The gullible ones attended a grand ceremony in which majority of them had their hands and feet cut off and left in the wilderness. Waxaa loo bixiyey kala kicii iyo gurdumi.

Later, the Sayyid tried to make peace with them knowing he needed fighters. He sent out 70 of his men on peace delegation from Eyl and all 70 were killed and thrown in a well in the ogaden heartland.

So his "takfiirism" had to do with the hypocritical nature of the somali tribes who allied whomever they thought was stronger and care little for Islam.
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Re: Did you know Sayid Muhammad Abdulla Hassan was a sufi?

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:? :?If" Crazy Mulllah" and "Canibalism" is not trashing, I don't know what else is trashing... :? :?
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Re: Did you know Sayid Muhammad Abdulla Hassan was a sufi?

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Talo alle udaa wrote:Ibn Saalix had no clue what was going on in Somalia. The entire somali tribes, except a few, were allied either with the british, the ethiopians, or the italians.
Even his own tribe, the majority (maxamed subeer) were gainst him and even tried to kill him. They invited him for counsel trying to ambush him, and so knowing their treachery his sent out Abbas, one of his favorite colonels that look like him. THe maxamed subeer then killed Cabbas thinking they had killed the Sayyid until later they found out he was still alive.

To pay back, he told them that they were his "Children" and wronged, and that he had forgiven them for their wrong doings. The gullible ones attended a grand ceremony in which majority of them had their hands and feet cut off and left in the wilderness. Waxaa loo bixiyey kala kicii iyo gurdumi.

Later, the Sayyid tried to make peace with them knowing he needed fighters. He sent out 70 of his men on peace delegation from Eyl and all 70 were killed and thrown in a well in the ogaden heartland.

So his "takfiirism" had to do with the hypocritical nature of the somali tribes who allied whomever they thought was stronger and care little for Islam.
Is there a biography about Sayidka that includes the intricate details you've mentioned?
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Re: Did you know Sayid Muhammad Abdulla Hassan was a sufi?

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I don't have anything of substance to add to the discussion but this...awesome name :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Did you know Sayid Muhammad Abdulla Hassan was a sufi?

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Learned quite a bit from reading through this thread, thanks guys
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Re: Did you know Sayid Muhammad Abdulla Hassan was a sufi?

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he's was a kind of sufi but the kind that would be unrecognisable to today's docile mushrik sufis. in fact back then he's hostile to the dominate somali sufi order for being docile and kuffar lackeys like today's sufis. nonetheless, without taking anything from his jihad, he's was still a sufi; and, as such, practised bidah.
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Re: Did you know Sayid Muhammad Abdulla Hassan was a sufi?

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@lamagodle no. baardheere jameeca were from daafeet, some rahanwen shaykh called sheekh ibrahim jibirow has founded them. also shaykh abdirahman al zaili3i the shaykh of shaykh awees was a rahanween but he was born in warshikh.
all the leading shaykhs were from south.
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Re: Did you know Sayid Muhammad Abdulla Hassan was a sufi?

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kambuli wrote::? :?If" Crazy Mulllah" and "Canibalism" is not trashing, I don't know what else is trashing... :? :?
You are over reacting old woman!!!!
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