Not a Good Idea!!!

[Transformer]

@Transformers - I have nothing against MJs however Puntland isn't the most trustworthy party out there. MJs are welcomed to do as they wish in the region but the leadership roles are for The House. When an Ogadeni gets a high position in Puntland, so will an MJ in Jubbaland. Until then The House shall continue its reign over the deep south.

From "who in their right mind would trust MJs" to "I have nothing against MJ." Whatever happen to consistence sxb.

And if I may ask what exactly are your reasons for Puntland being untrustworthy?

Who settles where in Puntland is very well established the Harti, Lelkase, Awrtable, the Arab Salah, etc. have all been given their fair share of representation in all levels of governments local and state. Anyhow once the democratization process is complete come 2014 it won't be business as usual since the geographic distribution of representatives will depend upon voter turnout in all eight regions. Who knows maybe in 20 years down the road from now Bosaso might have a Ogaden mayor, I would definitely not object to it. Puntland has all along been hitting the right notes, it strongly believes in empowering the locals as opposed to the central government among many other things, it's just that individuals such as yourself are easily blindsided with Khalid Ali, Hutuking, etc. usual one liners which is a shame about "the arrest of the two ONLF Officials," which may I remind you remains the first and last only unfortunate even since the arrest in 2008. They really don't hesitate to drop in with that line like a broken record every time we put aside our differences and look to the future hand in hand.

I have no ill feelings toward Ogaden and neither should you. Dangirl and Ina Adan have been good ambassadors and I can only hope to fill their shoes.

[Talo alle udaa]

Camanje Yogol wuxuu ahaa gabayaa muctarif ah oo tixihiisu ku baaheen aadna looga xiiseeyo dhammaan degaanada Soomaalida Galbeed, kuwa Waqooyi iyo inta la ollaga ah. Sidoo kale Camanje wuxuu ahaa aftahan geed-ka-hadal, nin kaftan badan oo ragga ay isu gabyaan kaftan kale oo caadi ahi u dhexeeyo iyo nin miyi iyo magaalaba ku dhaqan oo labada nololoodba ehel u ah.

Marbay waxay kaftameen niman reer bari ah oo askar Talyaani ahaa oo Jigjiga yimid xilliggii Talyanku Itoobiya qabsaday. Kaftankii hadalka caadiga ahaa ayaa gadaal mid gabay isu rogoy. Camanje nimankii gabay kulul ayuu u mariyey, waxaana gabaygaa naga soo gaadhay meerisyadan hoose. Wuxuu yidhi:

Namiimnimo Majeerteen miyaan wali ka niibkeenin
Ma nifaaqii oo buuxiyuu xalayto nooleeyey
Naxliga iyo nuxuustii miyaa naari soo kiciyey

Nasri miyuu ka sugi Eebahay saw ma nici doono
Iyagiyo Namruud saw Janadu kama nijaasoobin
Nayroobi iyo Xamar horraad nag uga siiseene

Dhulbahantaa naflaha kuugu xigga nabadse kaa waaye
Warsangalina nabarkaad barteen nadigu iimeeye
Adduunkii nagaa idinka iyo naagahaa rogaye
Nasabkiinu meel buu ahaa nuridu waa iine
Nacallaa Majeerteen ku yaal nolol ma haystaane

I have highlighted the relevant part I wanted to bring forth, which is, the MJs have been accused even a century ago, of having beef with their harti brethren (dhulos and warsengeli)
by OG poets. Today we see what state the Harti family is in.

[Transformer]

^And all are blameless except MJ's. You can go ahead and throw that OG poet's poem into the garbage since neither he or any of the clans he speaks in favor were saints.

[EEGA9]

stop the bacaac

Puntland and Jubbaland

[GIJaamac]

I wonder when this "Jubbaland" myth will turn to reality ? We've been waiting for a half decade now .

[Murax]

Jubbaland if it ever comes to fruition will be a OG/MR powersharing deal since 70% of the districts are inhabited by them, with the other groups getting something. Its not qablaayad but I think those two groups need to be appeased as they can enforce a peace.

[AbdiWahab252]

Jubbaland if it ever comes to fruition will be a OG/MR powersharing deal since 70% of the districts are inhabited by them, with the other groups getting something. Its not qablaayad but I think those two groups need to be appeased as they can enforce a peace.

70% ? Jeberti factiods

[Murax]

Jubbaland if it ever comes to fruition will be a OG/MR powersharing deal since 70% of the districts are inhabited by them, with the other groups getting something. Its not qablaayad but I think those two groups need to be appeased as they can enforce a peace.

70% ? Jeberti factiods

Gedo alone is 6 districts.

[AbdiWahab252]

Murax,

Well, you guys claim Gedo, HG claims Shabelle Hoose, lets split Jubbada Hoose & Dhexe and call it a day.

[Osob101]

HG Claiming Shabeele Hoose waa ii Kow unless you mean the Moryaam that came with The JVA and now have left

[AbdiWahab252]

HG Claiming Shabeele Hoose waa ii Kow unless you mean the Moryaam that came with The JVA and now have left

We have always been there. We had HG settling there since before the Italians. Secondly, if Darood want to take Kismayo, whats your problem with HG taking Shabeele Hoose, 1/2 of the Jubbas ?

[Nomand]

jubbaland power sharing

50% =sade

25%= ogadeen

25%= bantu

[illuminatizz]

HG Claiming Shabeele Hoose waa ii Kow unless you mean the Moryaam that came with The JVA and now have left

I Think What AW was referring was the presence of CAYR in marka town which they have settled In 1974 Just the Og were settled in Lower jubba in large Numbers by the 1970s,So,Stop Dwelling on AW`s Posts because at the end of the Day Sh.hose Remains a sovereign Hawiye Territory with other Various Clans living As equals in peace and prosperity.

[AbdiWahab252]

HG Claiming Shabeele Hoose waa ii Kow unless you mean the Moryaam that came with The JVA and now have left

I Think What AW was referring was the presence of CAYR in marka town which they have settled In 1974 Just the Og were settled in Lower jubba in large Numbers by the 1970s,So,Stop Dwelling on AW`s Posts because at the end of the Day Sh.hose Remains a sovereign Hawiye Territory with other Various Clans living As equals in peace and prosperity.

There were also plenty of Sacad in Kismayo, Jilib, Bulo Xawo, Luuq, Ceelwaq for decades. They were merchants there and even larger numbers resided in Ismamuulka Somalida Ethiopia in Qalafo, Mustaxil, Kebridahare (the vast majority of the stores there were owned by Sacad/HG and Sacad Muse/HA.)

[FarIyoAlif]

Camanje Yogol wuxuu ahaa gabayaa muctarif ah oo tixihiisu ku baaheen aadna looga xiiseeyo dhammaan degaanada Soomaalida Galbeed, kuwa Waqooyi iyo inta la ollaga ah. Sidoo kale Camanje wuxuu ahaa aftahan geed-ka-hadal, nin kaftan badan oo ragga ay isu gabyaan kaftan kale oo caadi ahi u dhexeeyo iyo nin miyi iyo magaalaba ku dhaqan oo labada nololoodba ehel u ah.

Marbay waxay kaftameen niman reer bari ah oo askar Talyaani ahaa oo Jigjiga yimid xilliggii Talyanku Itoobiya qabsaday. Kaftankii hadalka caadiga ahaa ayaa gadaal mid gabay isu rogoy. Camanje nimankii gabay kulul ayuu u mariyey, waxaana gabaygaa naga soo gaadhay meerisyadan hoose. Wuxuu yidhi:

Namiimnimo Majeerteen miyaan wali ka niibkeenin
Ma nifaaqii oo buuxiyuu xalayto nooleeyey
Naxliga iyo nuxuustii miyaa naari soo kiciyey

Nasri miyuu ka sugi Eebahay saw ma nici doono
Iyagiyo Namruud saw Janadu kama nijaasoobin
Nayroobi iyo Xamar horraad nag uga siiseene

Dhulbahantaa naflaha kuugu xigga nabadse kaa waaye
Warsangalina nabarkaad barteen nadigu iimeeye
Adduunkii nagaa idinka iyo naagahaa rogaye
Nasabkiinu meel buu ahaa nuridu waa iine
Nacallaa Majeerteen ku yaal nolol ma haystaane

I have highlighted the relevant part I wanted to bring forth, which is, the MJs have been accused even a century ago, of having beef with their harti brethren (dhulos and warsengeli)
by OG poets. Today we see what state the Harti family is in.

The harti/kablalax card cida u baahan ama ku danaysata wa la yaqaanaa