New NFD and Ogadenia Perspective!

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Iyo waawaxay Maxaadrobka aad heysatid? Reer Warfaa is a subclan of Maxaadroob.
As a matter of fact Reer Aadan Kheyr mooyaane all of the other Reer Cabdillaha kale oo dhan waa Reer maxaadroob :snoop:
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SamaneAxmad wrote:Ceeb waryaada.
Shisheeye dhaxdooda ayaad isku haysataan damn
war ina adeer soo wixii aad sheegaysay aniga halkan iguma qabsanin maanta oo reer Cabdillihii bahashaba qiimaha ka qaaday hareeraha igama galin. Kolkaa waa inaa is difaaco dee oon runta usheego si miyirku ugu soo noqdo!
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balwarama wrote:
SamaneAxmad wrote:Ceeb waryaada.
Shisheeye dhaxdooda ayaad isku haysataan damn
war ina adeer soo wixii aad sheegaysay aniga halkan iguma qabsanin maanta oo reer Cabdillihii bahashaba qiimaha ka qaaday hareeraha igama galin. Kolkaa waa inaa is difaaco dee oon runta usheego si miyirku ugu soo noqdo!
Dee PM isku qaraaca ma aha nidaam sidan oo kale in aad banaan isku qabsataan.
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Ogadenia is a myth.
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Ogaden majority in NFD is a myth. Ogaden is a majority in Garissa county (with population of around 623,060). In Wajer (with population of around 661,941) Degodia clan is the majority, while the most populous countyof Mandera (1,025,756) has a Garre majority. At the end of the day, they are all Somalis.
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GalliumerianSlayer wrote:Ogadenia is a myth.
Ogaden can do what they want with their own lands
. They shouldn't claim other clans lands tho
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AwBakayle wrote:Ogaden majority in NFD is a myth. Ogaden is a majority in Garissa county (with population of around 623,060). In Wajer (with population of around 661,941) Degodia clan is the majority, while the most populous countyof Mandera (1,025,756) has a Garre majority. At the end of the day, they are all Somalis.
What about Murule and ajuuraan?
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Murulle lives in Mandera while Ajuuraan is in Wajer
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By default, all Somali clans exaggerate their numbers. Ogaadeen is not more than 30 % of NFD population. In Jubbaland, I would estimate 10%-15%
.. DDSI about 50%
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Somalis like other communities in Kenya grossly inflated their numbers for a myriad of reasons especially in Mandera County. They say they've got a population of over a million people! That's not true. I am familiar with all three Somali counties. Even though not very instructive, the number of votes in each county tells a lot.

The three counties have roughly the same population and Garissa Town is by far the largest town in NFD. And the most well-developed and most connected to the rest of the country.

In terms of qabiil numbers, I'd estimate the Ogaden to be the largest Somali in the whole of NFD, around 35 per cent followed by Garre and Degodia.

1. Mandera: The largest clan is Garre, a second distant is Murule, then Degodia and corner tribes (Asharaf, Sheikhal, Marehan, Rahanweyn, Badcad Absame, etc).

2. Wajir: the largest clan is the Somali Degodia especially the Fai and the Reer Mohamud. A close second is Ogaden (Mohamed Subeer, Maqabuul [these two are almost same size], Bah Geri, and Geeri Kombe (though the latter is not OG, but is included for historical reason :P ) and Ajuuraan...The corner tribes are small by from different Somali clans.

3. Garissa: It is Ogaadeen and some corner triber (Boran, Ajuuran, Degodia, all within Garissa town only). The Ogadeen clans here are Abudwaak (the richest clan among the OG in Kenya and very numerous), the mighty Cawlyahan especially the Reer Ali, Afwaax and Afgaab. They have got a long running fued with Abudwaak. And the Abdalla, the Abdalla are mainly in the south of the county and are slightly smaller than the other two.

This is my observation and Allah knows best.
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Lord Diplock wrote:Somalis like other communities in Kenya grossly inflated their numbers for a myriad of reasons especially in Mandera County. They say they've got a population of over a million people! That's not true. I am familiar with all three Somali counties. Even though not very instructive, the number of votes in each county tells a lot.

The three counties have roughly the same population and Garissa Town is by far the largest town in NFD. And the most well-developed and most connected to the rest of the country.

In terms of qabiil numbers, I'd estimate the Ogaden to be the largest Somali in the whole of NFD, around 35 per cent followed by Garre and Degodia.

1. Mandera: The largest clan is Garre, a second distant is Murule, then Degodia and corner tribes (Asharaf, Sheikhal, Marehan, Rahanweyn, Badcad Absame, etc).

2. Wajir: the largest clan is the Somali Degodia especially the Fai and the Reer Mohamud. A close second is Ogaden (Mohamed Subeer, Maqabuul [these two are almost same size], Bah Geri, and Geeri Kombe (though the latter is not OG, but is included for historical reason :P ) and Ajuuraan...The corner tribes are small by from different Somali clans.

3. Garissa: It is Ogaadeen and some corner triber (Boran, Ajuuran, Degodia, all within Garissa town only). The Ogadeen clans here are Abudwaak (the richest clan among the OG in Kenya and very numerous), the mighty Cawlyahan especially the Reer Ali, Afwaax and Afgaab. They have got a long running fued with Abudwaak. And the Abdalla, the Abdalla are mainly in the south of the county and are slightly smaller than the other two.

This is my observation and Allah knows best.
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Very realistic post. Still 35% is not a majority. Even if Ogaadeen is majority in NFD, who cares? Let people live in peace and prosper, and everybody gets their fair share. That's all. Why does every clan has to say we're majority? Only to deny rights of fellow Somali citizens. Majority is not a claim, it has to be verified through real census.

In Kenyan census, Kikuyu is considered one tribe, but Somalis (because of their ignorance) claim their individual clans (Garre, Ogaadeen, Degodia, etc) on the census paper, instead of just being Somalis.
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