Khaatumo Somaliland open peace dialogue

[ramzy2277]

I would never believe these people, they broke their word back in 1991 and 1993 when all dholos including this cali bele were all present and agreed to regain their sovereignty from konforta .

look at this double face lier cali bele confirming he was their yet denying agreeing on Somaliland re-independence while the whole propose of the meeting was to elect a first Somaliland government after abdirahman tuur, AUN, provisional intern government 1991-1993.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNYntNmTy7E

Cale khalif aka cale bele was even running for vice president post.

There is something happening behind the scenes, ALLAH knows best what the two sides have agreed on,but I am pretty sure those khatomo seeg were pushed by the international community to come to the peace table.

what makes me wonder is the the timing of this so called peace talks..!!.

Somaliland electrorial process now adays has reached a very critical point, where the parliamentarian election is facing the most difficult hurdle that lasted for almost 12 years now which is the SAAMI QAAYBSI of the 82 parliamentarian seats .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1x6NvD_FgQ

awdal MPs have boycotted the parliament for quite some time now ,protesting they only got 13 Seats out of 82, and isaaq have the majority of seats.

however, this will hurt Somaliland's quest for free and fair elections based on ONE MAN ONE VOTE, not QUOTA or SAAMI QAAYBSI then we are no different that somalia with their 4.5 quota system..!!

the funny thing is Dholos left Somaliland back in 1998 when ,president Mohamed ibrahim cigal, AUN, selected dahir riyaale as his vice president and adopted the 3 party system and one man one vote instead of SAAMI QAAYBSI that was in effect since 1993.....and as i remember garad abdi gani protested that cigaal,AUN, chose samaroon over dholos. .

I saw in the news vote registration is going smooth in Sool , seems dholos want to show their numbers and compete with awdal on vice president's post .

[Raganimo]

The likes of Yusuuf are not only fake but they enjoy washing the rear end of Dhulos.

We know what he says about Isse Musse too.

There will not be any demilitarisation of any section of the eastern front.

We know Dhulos try all kinds of begging methods and flip back a week or month later.

These useless talks with useless Dhulos will not yield anything just like all the other talks.

The army is not built only to be disbanded to appease reero.

It is permanent solution until someone else defeats them and makes their own in the same manner our SNM won and formed this forces.



I'm the winner and btches should obey my law. Go fight, win or join are the only two options.

There is nothing else on the table.

Real talk.

Lol this guy is talking as if Somaliland is this super strong empire, as if it's not just another poor African state.

Go somewhere else with that fake bravado. You can't bully anybody sxb. All out war is not in your interests and that's just how it is.

[Raganimo]

I find it fascinating that the two qabiils (dooros and hutu) that have sidelined Isaaq politically from the Somali Republic, want to talk about more enfranchisement and representation for qurjiiles.

You will be dead before you get autonomy. The land is part of Somaliland, whether your dusty arse likes it or not.

There are people who actually live on the land. No people, no land.

Again, you guys need stop with this fake bravado and become more pragmatic. Isaaq chauvinism has not worked in your favor so far and it will not work in your favor in the future. You're not Germany so you might as well forget about this "final solution" that you keep dreaming of while you're in the comfort of your home.

The fact that some of you actually advocate genocide is pretty disturbing even if that is very unlikely to happen.

[ramzy2277]

what a typical doofar mutually exclusive behavior.....when ur likes came to power, ur kin always committed genocides toward Somali people,and when ur kin loose power they play possum to deceit the IC like kalshaale fiasco .

if isaaq wanted genocide against ur ppl, they would have done that back in 1991 when we destroyed the faqash regime and u lost ur dady,but we played the big brother role and healed our wounds and chose to build our people and lands .

ur ppl will not get any better treatment in SL ,infact they will be last in the queue of progress and development, other communities chose peace 25 years ago , so instead of throwing meaningless advises to the isaaq, try to catch up with the other SL clans who are registering their voters to get a bigger role in SL democracy. ( One man One Vote) where other Somalis failed to implement it so far.

[theyuusuf143]

The likes of Yusuuf are not only fake but they enjoy washing the rear end of Dhulos.

We know what he says about Isse Musse too.

There will not be any demilitarisation of any section of the eastern front.

We know Dhulos try all kinds of begging methods and flip back a week or month later.

These useless talks with useless Dhulos will not yield anything just like all the other talks.

The army is not built only to be disbanded to appease reero.

It is permanent solution until someone else defeats them and makes their own in the same manner our SNM won and formed this forces.



I'm the winner and btches should obey my law. Go fight, win or join are the only two options.

There is nothing else on the table.

Real talk.

Says the man with the Stockholm syndrome who loves Ethiopia wholeheartedly despite its intermittent genocide against his own people. you failed Ethiopian politics I don't think you can do better in Somaliland politics. Horta arrogance and acting tough does not work in the negotiation process, I didn't agree total Demilitarization in dhulos territory, I demanded that dhulos should first lay down their weapons against the military, then there should be strong local police force after that the military can be relocated to the border lines. I am talking about yoocada the right place they were supposed to be at the first place. What is wrong with that ?

Dhulos and ciise muuse are not the same to me. One is just making trouble in the periphery areas (Tribal region) where there is no much economy value. The other is trying to challenge Somaliland Rule of law right in the heart/core of the country. The later can not be tolerated other ways the whole Somaliland functionality will Vanish in a matter of days not even months or years. Letting the monkeys to play over Berbera port is like Pakistan letting pashtun Taliban's to control the port of Karachi instead of the Baluchistan mountains. I have nothing against the monkeys as clan but I won't let them spoil Berbera. They are free to go mad in guban mountains if they like but not in Berbera.

[original dervish]

The talks will flesh out an agreement that will leave Dhulbahante in total control of what is above and below our lands.
We can negotiate with the iidoors.......everything must be on the table.
The return to armed conflict throughout the region, and the I.C outcry, must be ever present in the minds of s/l.

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

I told Awrastale and the Anti Dhulos Idoors on here, you want to have a peaceful, progressive independent nation. You must accept others, you can't preach daily the Land is Somaliland. but someone owns that land. If you want war there is a rightful war right across the border in Ethiopia, how can they worship Xabasha and bombard us with Amxaaro, Tigre and Oromo History & tell us we can't have talks. There will be talks wether you like it or not, Dhulbahante will vote and elect their members no need for Sami Qaybsi in Parliament, but it will take for a while for the people to be all convinced.

I suggest you do your country a favor, and support Peace. Some of my people are saying how can we forget the past, I say the past is gone, the dead are gone, and the future is for the living.

[Siciid85]

OD, you talk tough for a Naaleeye Ahmed. If you were Jamac Siyad or Rer Hagar, we might have taken your threats little seriously

[AwRastaale]

TheYusuuf,

There is no love in politics. Just because I know fair bit about Ethiopian history, which is far more interesting than the tribal mayhem you guys talk about 24/7.

But along with your bottle, we can also say you have soft spot for Dhulo. Maybe one of your alcohol is called Dhulowalker.

I can't take a sakhraan serious.

[NomadicSoul1]

The Somali media has boon boonied the border tuulo of buuhoodle. The already seen protests against the so called meetings and makes me wonder what fuels this principle or just plain hate against anything remotely Isaaq. Other dhulbahnate communities are progressively catching up with the rest of Somaliland and claiming the share which is righfuly theirs but some from this area seem to be stuck in limbo. The talks should continue and be positive guys.

[Siciid85]

I think Buhoodle has always been its own little island. They never were truly part of Khatumo, they only tolerate it. Rer Buhoodle are Rer Hawd, nin Geeljire Ahna siday wax u fahmaan way adag tahay

[original dervish]

Furthermore, we should also hold meetings with the new SFG in Xamar, letting them know we are considering officially joining S/L.
The SFG is the biggest opponent to s/l recognition, and we should use this leverage to gain prominent positions in any future Govt.
If our demands are not met we will return to war.....both politically and militarily.

Prince.......before anything is settled all snm militia must evacuate the Nugaal valley and end the siege of Buhoodle.
We would not need any quotas because Dhulbahante is without doubt one of the largest clans with the most land in the north.

Siciid....this is all about negotiation.....we will achieve our goals one way or another.
S/L cannot afford to have chaos at this stage of their development.
Especially with the SFG looking to sabotage s/l at every turn.

[NomadicSoul1]

You should hold a meeting with the government in Xamar lol war Xamar is trying to sideline Daroods in general why would they meet over this. I always wondered why dhulbahnate always say dowlada Xamar this that like they care about them. I guess being up north you are native and don't know how dirty politics gets in muqdisho unlike the dacaad politics in Somaliland.

[Raganimo]

what a typical doofar mutually exclusive behavior.....when ur likes came to power, ur kin always committed genocides toward Somali people,and when ur kin loose power they play possum to deceit the IC like kalshaale fiasco .

if isaaq wanted genocide against ur ppl, they would have done that back in 1991 when we destroyed the faqash regime and u lost ur dady,but we played the big brother role and healed our wounds and chose to build our people and lands .

ur ppl will not get any better treatment in SL ,infact they will be last in the queue of progress and development, other communities chose peace 25 years ago , so instead of throwing meaningless advises to the isaaq, try to catch up with the other SL clans who are registering their voters to get a bigger role in SL democracy. ( One man One Vote) where other Somalis failed to implement it so far.

Gtfoh with that marfash-dweller tough talk..

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

Original saax cidamadaas have to go to the borders, or other places. It should be in the talks. We can vote with great numbers when we decide to vote and help parties win elections.