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jalaaludin5 wrote:

Musa26 wrote:

jalaaludin5 wrote:
Even before SM kulaha. Sxb I have never heard of anyone making an argument for Isaxaaq when it comes to the natives of Hargeysa. It's always been Ciidagale and SM.

Isaxaq and muusa cabdale are not natives of the cities they currently live in.
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typical sacad muuse logic. you actually said its always been ciidagale and sacad muuse as if arap and isaxaaq live in the clouds. technically speaking hargaysa should fall under the ciidagaleweyne umbrella which isaxaaq and arap are part of. sacad muuse moved to hargeysa when the place was already settled.

sacad muuse added alot to the place tho, marka ku soo dhawaw gurigina labaad, but bulaxar is your first home always

But at least you accept the fact that Isaxaaq and muusa cabdale were part of the great exodus called...kabtey meeday

Hear is some of the poem by Yawle

Isxaaq waxuu ununufaa, uurku-taalada'e 
Bal eegoo Afmeer bay galbeed, uga arooraane
Markay idin arkaan geelashaa, uubka loo ridi' 
Iman mayso Habar Yoonistaad u alwanaysaane !

Awal raace Muuse Cabadlana, odayadoodiiye 
Waa aawadiin waxa ku furay, Awdal iyo Shiikhe
Haduu gugu Aboorray ka da'o, ay ma soo galo'e 
Iman mayso Habar Yoonistaad u alwanaysaane !

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you call it an exodus and i call it an expansion but both describe one thing at the end of the day and thats dhul balaadhsi

There are 2 stories about the Isxaaq and their history in Hargeysa what we do know is that, Sultan Magan became fugitive and found refuge inside Isxaaq Land. Suldaan Farax when he was In saaxil region in berbera for a few days, His brother magan heard about Suldan farax Visiting Berbera., Magan With 40 horsemen went to the isxaaaq camp and said Sultan farax is preparing for battle , be aware he wants to strike at night ,Magan bin suldaan Guled then said to the isxaaq Aha I know you guys are afraid of My brother Suldaan farax indho libaax the nick name of sultan farax , Dul guduud became Angry an Isxaaq warrior and said you think we are afraid of your brother , Dul guduud leading an army of horse men towards Suldaan farax And attacked The Sultan And killed him, Magan left Isxaaq territory when his brother got killed. When the sultan was killed the Sultanate Agreed to kill Magan and his family his sons They were all murdered By the Ciidagalle Sultanate Magan said in a poem Maliga leh Rabinayo iyo muuna kici waaga , one of magans wifes Was ogaden She fled Towards ogaden Reer Haarun area She was pregnant , her son would come back later, And be the same rebel Against sultanate. Another version is that the Isxaaq fled from Sultan Xirsi amaan the most powerful Habaryoonis sultan in the 1800s this story is weak some say because the story of Sultan Farax and Dal guduud was 50 years before that, my conclusion is that segments of the Isxaaq clans fled indeed from the HY sultan to Hargeysa but Isxaaq was present in Hargeysa before that. Another isxaaq told me something about an issue when dul guduud killed the Ciidagale Sultan that the cabdalle Isxaaq said they prefer to come under the HY sultan in Burco Sultan Diiriye and wanted to pay tribute to him instead of the sons of Sultan Guleed. Any way after dul killed the ciidagalle sultan this was when the Isxaaq became independent and not under the Ciidagalle weyne the Arab stayed another 120 years under the Ciidagalle enslavement



As for the Sacad Muse the Reer Axmed were the most richest ruled much of Berbera since the 17 century had many contacts with Middle east the original Kabadhe iidoor the Ciidagalle reer Guleed sultans and caaqils liked always how the reer axmed conducted Bussiness Sultan diiriye even once suggested that he wanted to move and Be in berbera prior to the British and said it is better to rule the Land from Here on the red sea what people dont know the reer axmed and the reer guleed ama ilma ciise ba dhamaantood had great contacts before the Sacad Muse Mullas came from Harar remember Sheikh madar came from Harar Ethiopia the Sacad Muse wave of moving to Hargeysa took many directions.
the reer samatar reer Axmed Cabdalle and Bah gobe have always lived in and around Hargeysa herer the Bah gobe




Some where in the mid 1700s the Kingdom of the Sultan guleed attacked the xaraf Area with a destructive raid using full force they were Pushed Back and some of his luitenants were killed and Many of the Sultanates Military leaders were ambushed and assassinated it was in the time the Bah Gobe were the Habr Awal Sultans Sultan Guleed was offended that there was another Man Claiming A sultan in his Kingdom 5 km where he was toga herer so he attacked Xaraf a sacadmuse stronghold Xaraf is where the Habar awal used to Crown their Sultans any how the story goes that after the war and both sides lost many men the wife of Sultaan Guleed Cambaro Sugule meecaad] composed a poem i have a few lines of that poem she was deliberately insulting the Sultanate of sultaan Guleed because of what they Committed in the Sacad muse territories in western hargeysa after some of his advisors heard about this poem they advised Sultaan guleed you should Kill this Woman she is making mockery of your Sultanate he refused to Kill her any how the poems goes as this.

Suldaanow bal aan kuso gaadho guul ma hele

Aliyo sacad muse samada lagala dirir

Hadaad salay tidhi saymo kaga bexe

hadaad xaraf iyo tidha hubka iyo heensaha ka hoyo

hadaad ubaale tidha uubo kaga bexe

i have her Abtirsi


1Cambaro

2Sugulle

3Meecaad

4Gedid

5Yoniis

6Nuux

7ismacil

8Jabriil

9Hussein

10Abubakr

11isxaaq

12sacad

13Muse

14Subeer

15Awal

16 Sh isxaaq


She lost 3 of her brothers in the war and an uncle of hers

kkkkk khalid ali you're a f-king legend sxb

Khalid Ali wrote:the Arab stayed another 120 years under the Ciidagalle enslavement

^ and that ladies & gentlemen is how you divide brothers

This what I know about Isxaaq within the H.Yoonis nomadic politics , the Isxaaq Care border the ismaaciil Care so any time they fight with a Ismaaciil Care sub clan the poor beggars gets stumped by the larger ismaaciil care. Between 1890-1892 a mini war took place intitally between the Qaasim and the Gumbuur, the Gumbuur came to the wels of Siig near Cadaadley today led by one of their warriors Aar Qasaali, the Isxaaq refused water to the Gumbuur , a poetic dual ensued near the well and the Isxaaq poet boasted :

Haddaan geela bogdhoomay (haraaday)
Biyaa kaaga waraabsho
Anagaa bokhranayniyo
baanisii ma la Dayn.

and Aaar Qasaali answerd on these lines:

Haddii hashu oonto
oo hadhuub galka Guntiisa
habeeda iskugu gayso
gaban mayno Ogaadaay!

the Isxaaq again began:

Ceelku waa biyo gaab
Fardahaaba u guula
Nimankiina Gumbuuroow
Idinkaa gacmo weyne
Goodi ceel ka qaraacda:

The dual took a serious tone and the Isxaaq refused to budge , and Aaar Qasaali recited a geeraar meesage to the wider Habar Yoonis through a man called Daahir Geeraare:

Daahirow Intiqaalka aad arroorta u baxayso
Arrinka aan ku faraayo xafidoo iga gee
Meel aroori dhexdeeda oo
Aareeyihii Cawad Gaal
Ninkii Aadan Jugle
Guuleed Xaaji agtiisa
Meel intaasiba joogto
Urur weyne ka sheeg
Haddii aanad ka sheegin
Aakhiro oon la hurayniniyo
Ifka waa kugu qaan

Ceelkeenii abadaa ee Ismaaciilba ogaa
Yay iga oominayaan
Abtirsiimada guud yaan ku adkaysanayaaye
Inaadeer kuma waaye
ma anigaan Ab la ahayn

Afartii Isaxaaq iyo Arabkii ku dhafnaaba
ayaxay isku noqdeen
oo uu uudii u horaysayna
faro laygu asqee
Abtirsiimada guud baan ku adkaysanayaaye
Inaadeer kuma waaye ma anigaan ab la ahayn

Adhigii iyo geelii iyo umushii
noo cabi wayday
Abitirsiimada guud baan ku adkaysanayaaye
Inaadeer ma anigaan abtir la ahayn
Amintaa aminteeda iyo Idaha haysimadooda
Col Axmaaro la moodiyo
Haddii uuro la waayo
Ismaaciilka maqnaadoow isma
eegno dhahaada.

Cawad Gaal , Guuleed Xaaji , Adan Jugale ( father of Faacuul and grandfather of Suusle) these men were the men that had the H.Yoonis ears , As soon as he finished the Isxaaq killed Aar Qasaali. Then the Ismaaciil Care ( western Ismaaciil Care) heared about the incidents and the poem , Sultaan Nuur collected the Ismaaciil Care Habar Yoonis, when he enquired only the Muuse Cabddale was missing , and sultan Nuur said lets begin with the Muuse Cabdalle , just before the attack the Muuse Cabdalle horsemen arrived one Muuse cabdalle horsemn asked Nuur Dheere " Suldaanow colka ma la caawinayaa mise waa ku cabays" isn't recorded what Nuur said , but just before they attacked the Isxaaq (Qaasin ) Guuleed Xaaji ordered the Ismaaciil Care not to kill certain Isxaaqs among them Qaasin's ( Axmed Ismaaciil Diiriye) grandfather Diiriye. The battle began and the Isxaaq and the Arab were dislodged from Siig ,, after the battle an Ugaadh Cumar said these lines:

Isaxaaq afka day
Diini oorada (siigo) day
Arabkii ku dhafnaana
abtiyaal na daaya
ilmo weynida day

The Isxaaq replied

Adoo waayo gadooday
haddii wayd lagu siiyo
waxtarkeedu ma fiicnee
wabaxaad ku disha
wadartii Sugulliyo
haddaan waayay Gumbuur
Ugaadh kaan war-wareemay
waxba ii tari maayo
warmaha uun ku cas casee

After the battle , the Ugaadh Cumar began to sing

Nin barooran lahaa
iyo nin baal goosan
Buurmadow nin la'


Then and there Gulleed Xaaji knew that they have killed Diiriye , Guuleed Xaaji cursed the Ugaadh Cumar "labaatan tarmaa idinka dhaley-lixdan jir taliyaa idin kama dhasho".

The Isxaaq animosity towards Sultan Nuur oginated during that war , in 1899 when Nuur was agitating for the Dervish cause , the Isxaaq (Qaasin) were among his most ardent opponent , they sided with Xaaji Muuse of Xaaxi . In September 1899 when the Dervish attached Oodweyne area sultan Nuur made sure the Isxaaq suffered the most , he ordered their elders to be flogged.

watch for the three piglets squeal now ,

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X.Playa wrote: Cawad Gaal , Guuleed Xaaji , Adan Jugale

Cawad Gaal maxaad isku tihiin ?