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Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:19 pm
by zackabdul
In my opinion, I'd remove the MJ mayor that's there right now and replace him with a Bajuun. I doubt anyones going to question why we picked a Bajuun. Shocked

But I doubt that's ever going to happen.. I'm going to make a list of who I believe should have the several posts.. and reasons why.. then you can feel free to ask questions.. give me 5 minutes. Laughing

Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:31 pm
by zackabdul
_ Lower Jubba governor - Absame (The Majority in J/Hoose)
_ Lower Jubba deputy governor - Harti (The 2nd majority in the country side)

_ Kismayo mayor - Harti/Sade - Both majority in the city
_ Kismayo deputy mayor - Harti/Sade - Both majority in the city

If the Mayor was to be Harti then the deputy would be Sade and vice versa..

_ Airport chief - Gaaljecel - I felt like I had to give them something.. Laughing

_ Port chief - Sade - You have no ports and from what I know better businessmen then the Absame.. Gedo would benefit
since it doesn't look like Ogaden lands in Jubboyinka are going anywhere at the moment...

_ Police Chief - Shiekhal - They seem the most neutral in Kismayo.. So no one will feel like one is occupying the other militarily..

Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:54 pm
by sadeboi
Zack were do harti live besides Kismayo?

And don't come with the crap that cawramle are harti. And Harti are less then us in Kismayo, so I feel to see how we are BOTH majorities.

Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:29 pm
by zackabdul
sadeboi,

Harti is the majority in Kismayo's countryside, your cousin DS will tell you that and no one has taken clan statistics in the city so you are just speculating and voicing opinions. I don't believe over 200,000 of Kismaayo's population is Mareexan.

What you people believe:

85% Mareexan
15% Harti, Absame, Gaaljecel, Baajuun, Sheikhal and others.

Do you honestly believe this? Be realistic sxb and stop talking out of your ass.

Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:35 pm
by zackabdul
Cawrmale are Warsangeli and any Warsan will tell you that.

Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:52 pm
by DawladSade
Zak ha u masabidan sxb, Harti does not live in an inch of jubooyinka. Even ask Spragga, Kismaayo nagula dhaga lakin waxaad sheegeesid countryside waa maxay. Laughing Laughing

Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:30 am
by Luq_Ganane
Let me note also, that these concessions are ONLY if we have some sort of benefit from Bossaso, its port and have a couple of seats in THEIR neck of the woods. Cool

Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:38 am
by Spragga Benz
Zack is right, Buulo Xaaji, Xaliimo Cadey etc. are typical Harti villages in the Jubba countryside.

Luq, Boosaaso iska ilow. That's not possible. You're making the concesssions for the sake of peace.

Let's round things up gentlemen. The summer holidays are coming up.

Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:50 am
by sadeboi
cawramle don't even consider themselves warsangali....

Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:55 am
by zackabdul
DS,

Do you know who lives from Kismayo all the way to Ras Kamboni?? Who lives in Kuda, Badhan waamo, Buulo xaaji and raxoole etc..?

Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:57 am
by sadeboi
buulo xaji is a cawramle village... kuda is dhuxul port and ogadens/marehans/majertaan live there....i don't know were raxoole is care to show me a map???

Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:59 am
by sadeboi
p.s

I honestly think the only way we can agree is if you expect that you cannot rule that place...and you can have some position but ruling kismayo with us is sharing bosaaso with you. its asking too much....

Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:05 am
by Padishah
These 'Negotiations' where each side states unworkable solutions is fruitless.

First of all, let's establish a consensus on the populations by clan in descending order.

So...?



As for Bosaso, how many Marehans reside in the place, and how long have they been there?

Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:09 am
by zackabdul
Kuda is the city you guys attacked and then denied it was your kinsmen until you found out they captured some.. Kuda is 100% Cusman Maxmuud city don't try to tell me Mareexan live there.

[quote="sadeboi"]nd you can have some position but ruling kismayo with us is sharing bosaaso with you. its asking too much....[/quote]

Sxb we live in Kismayo and you don't in Bosaso.. so how is that the same thing? You came a decade ago we were there for over a century...

Re: Intellectual question: Gaalshireedle-Majeerteen rivalry.

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:12 am
by sadeboi
you guys are a small percentage in kismayo...wagerdhac live in mudug..yet do they have a seat in puntland???


padishah what do you think would be a workable situation??