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Re: The Land belongs to Israel?
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:41 pm
by gurey25
thats Sultan Abdulhamids riegn
and your source is inaccurate it doesnt mention the start of the restrictions
Sultan abdulhamid was frightened and basically freaked out when the scope of the project dawned on him.
They were basically financially blackmailing him and it was not something that came all of sudden, it was a well drawnout plan.
Sultan Abdulhamid simply tried his best to stave off zionism as much as he could
till the coup d'etat of 1908..
after 1908 the Ottoman empire existed only on paper it was not independant at all
and at its head were anti muslim, zionist supported and funded revolutionaries.
i wouldnt be surprised to discover that the restriction re from 1895/96 onwards.
after that there was unrestricted jewish immigration andthe zionist programm was in full swing.
Kemal attaturk although much maligned by muslims was the best of them,
he was a nationalist first and foremost, and he subsequently turned on and defeated his
former zionist sponsers and his own revolutionary colleuges and kept around him only those that held Nationalist interests first.
Re: The Land belongs to Israel?
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:30 pm
by Sadaam_Mariixmaan
The Modern Day Israeli ain't really ethnically Hebrew but Khazars Turcoman and Slav descendants, they just converted to the Jewish faith
This will explain further
http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/51247
Re: The Land belongs to Israel?
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:36 pm
by fagash_killer
[quote="Quadratic"]^ You didn't make sense sambac yohow, iska aamus.[/quote]
how didnt i make sense? prove me wrong
Re: The Land belongs to Israel?
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:04 pm
by Grant
Strange. With all the conversions over all the years, 50% of all Askenazi and Sephardic men have the Cohanim marker, exclusive to the Jewish priestly class going clear back to Aaron (Haroun). They were just Levites, not even from Judah, Benjamin or the Joseph tribes. Explain that!
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/israel/familycohanim.html
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/israel/familylemba.html
Re: The Land belongs to Israel?
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:52 am
by gurey25
this needs more research but i believe most of the ashkhenazim are really jews.
this khazar thing is not going to fly becuase khazar turks look more european than allot of
askhanazim.
Re: The Land belongs to Israel?
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:30 pm
by ModerateMuslim
ethics would dictated that the land belongs to the philestinian.
in reality the land belongs to whomever lives there, right now. the survival of the fits 101.
but the cursed race that's the jews, must stop with their: "we must never forget" BS - every damn second. they've no morals or principles to speak of. they're despicable, greedy and inhumane in nature. and i don't consider them to be humans at all.
fock their cursed history - i don't want to know of it.

Re: The Land belongs to Israel?
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:31 pm
by qardasay
Prophet Yusuf was the son of Prophet Yaqub son of Prophet Ibrahim
Prophet Yusuf (scw) had 11 brothers. Jews are not descendants of Prophet Yusuf (scw). Jews are descendants of the jealous brothers
Re: The Land belongs to Israel?
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 9:59 am
by Grant
Qardasay,
Actually, the Joseph tribes, Ephraim and Menassah, were located in the hills around Jerusalem in the same general area as Benjamin. They were not from Judah, but, just like the Levites and those of Benjamin, many of them became "Jews".
Re: The Land belongs to Israel?
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 3:09 pm
by qardasay
Grant wrote:Qardasay,
Actually, the Joseph tribes, Ephraim and Menassah, were located in the hills around Jerusalem in the same general area as Benjamin. They were not from Judah, but, just like the Levites and those of Benjamin, many of them became "Jews".
Ephraim and Menasseh known as the Ten Lost Tribes they were Gentiles, they were never part of racist Juda religion. joseph was blessed but the brothers = evil jews
Re: The Land belongs to Israel?
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 3:31 pm
by Grant
Qardasay,
The twelve tribes are:
Reuven, Shimon, Levi, Yehuda, Issachar, Zevulun, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Joseph, Benjamin.
In Egypt Pharoah made Joseph vizier, and gave him Asenath, the daughter of Potipherah priest of On, as his wife. He had two sons by Asenath, Ephraim and Manasseh.
Later, the entire tribe of Levi were consecrated to the service of the tabernacle and the Joseph tribes were split to keep the number of tribes at twelve. (Edited to clarify: There were twelve land-holding tribes. The Levites did not hold land.)
Judah and Benjamin were included in the Kindom of Judah as entire tribes. Parts especially of Ephraim and Manasseh since they were close, and fragments of other northern tribes fleeing the Assyrians, escaped south and joined Judah.
Here's a pretty good background article:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/israel/losttribes.html