We Have more In Common with Arabs Than Africans

[The Nomad]

Warsangeli xunoo aad dhagax moodo ba ku odhanaya jamaican bey noqdeen ciyaalkiini

Real talk, you don't live in the UK, you're not qualified to comment on what ciyaal Isaaq are drawn to. I've seen it with my own eyes, go take a look at the UK section if you want proof.

Tolkaa waxay dhulkan aan joogo ku yihin ma ku sheega anigu

Wax ma sheegi kartid, is why, lakiin you can find Dumarka Somaliland whoring themselves out on Youtube, it's not concealed. Faux-indignation won't bring them back to Islam, instead of throwing out weak jibes about mothers, go help your women

[dawwa9]

Somalis are even closer to Indians and Sri Lankans than to most Africans, in Bantu culture two men don't hold each other's hand as a sign of friendship yet in South Asia they do . Those guys also wear Macawiis and eat Sambuusi.

Somalis closer to Indians than to most Africans?

[Shams al- Dawla]

Wax ma sheegi kartid ?

Abaha aqli dhagaxa ka wase , waxaad sheegato iyo waxaad ku hadasho baan is lahayn .
Wallahi oo billahi baa ku dhaaranaya inaan magac iyoo magaalada ay joogan ku siin kara , maxaan se ka fa'idaya ? bal ii sheeg ?
Tacbaan sun beerka u fadhido baad tahay , adiga oo kale ha ii moodin naaye.
Qandhuuf baan weligey ku tufi jiray adigoo kale the nomad ma'ogtahay ?

[GeoDesic]

Hi,
Arab/Somali connection is a recurrent subject among Somalis.
I somewhere read the present day Somalia once being part of the Khalifat
(James Dahl the abtirsi guy assert that); it can be a BA thesis;

I think one should first identify wat Muslim Arab culture is.
How this culture is different from "Islamic culture" if that ever exist ?
Is there a drift toward arabic culture wherever Muslim radicalism is in action? Or is this peculiar to Somalis?
Could Somali culture be only defined by Islam?
Arent we equating Arab Culture=Islamic Culture?

B.

You eloquently posed good questions. The similarities between Arabs and Somalis I can note are : A- Both are Nomadic in Heritage B- Camel Herding was/is essential part of the culture. C- Oral societies that value/valued poetry. These aspects predate Islam. In that sense, Somalis may have some common ties with Arabs by comparison in terms of culture. This will be true for any African or nonafrican whose heritage is derived from Nomadic tradition, so it wouldn't be only somalis who share something with Arabs culture-wise. Beyond that I am somali and I have no blood ties to Arabs. Both of my parents are Somalis.

[The Nomad]

Wax ma sheegi kartid ?

That's what I said, you're about to prove it with the nonsense you write below:

Wallahi oo billahi baa ku dhaaranaya inaan magac iyoo magaalada ay joogan ku siin kara , maxaan se ka fa'idaya ? ba ii sheeg ?

The walahi of a scorned Isaaq is meaningless, you won't gain anything, but let's both be honest here. Even if you can name a few people from my clan who're in need of dhaqan celis, it's incomparable to the problems afflicting Beesha Isaaq here and in Canada.

Are we going to pretend there aren't pictures of gabdo Isaaq with S/Land pendants around their necks being groped by madow just a click away?

Qandhuuf baan weligey ku tufi jiray adigoo kale the nomad ma'ogtahay ?

Really? Whatever floats your boat To me that screams uncouth, but if it's what you people do...

[surrender]

Salaam Murax how you been? I totally disagree I am up for the religion bit, I have more in common with anyone that is Muslim, anyone, reverts, black Asian, Africans, I can relate to them if they Muslim. Religion is the only thing that keeps me close to Arabs. But when it comes to culture, politics I have more in common with Africans I can relate to them about social situations, Arabs in my opinion and I can be wrong are arrogant, racist and full of themselves. They think we Africans are bunch of useless dark skin people. The Arab students at my university first of all are from rich families so probably don’t represent all Arabs but walahi when we talking about race, politics, poverty and economy, is like we in different worlds. But when we talking about marriage, arranged marriage, beauty and religion we seem to have lot in common, now to each of his own but to me politics race and poverty is more important than arranged marriage and anyone who is feeling what I am feeling about poverty corruption, elite taking over the world, that person is the person I can relate to.

[GENERAL_SNM]

Warsangeli xunoo aad dhagax moodo ba ku odhanaya jamaican bey noqdeen ciyaalkiini

Real talk, you don't live in the UK, you're not qualified to comment on what ciyaal Isaaq are drawn to. I've seen it with my own eyes, go take a look at the UK section if you want proof.

Tolkaa waxay dhulkan aan joogo ku yihin ma ku sheega anigu

Wax ma sheegi kartid, is why, lakiin you can find Dumarka Somaliland whoring themselves out on Youtube, it's not concealed. Faux-indignation won't bring them back to Islam, instead of throwing out weak jibes about mothers, go help your women

Fishhead you back to your most insecure best. You need to get our name, Isaaq, out of your Tunehead mouth. Your people aint sh!t in the UK and for your information I know tons of whores from every tribe, including the 6 warsegelis in the UK.

[Shams al- Dawla]

The nomad

but let's both be honest here. Even if you can name a few people from my clan who're in need of dhaqan celis, it's incomparable to the problems afflicting Beesha Isaaq here and in Canada.

Wax sidii naagaha uu doodaya baan nin rag ah mooday . mar waa iga geli , mar waa iga daa ,mar waa Canada , mar waa UK ... fukin tuna head , aqli adoon weeye nacdal ku dhacday -du

[The Nomad]

Wax sidii naagaha uu doodaya baan nin rag ah mooday . mar waa iga geli , mar waa iga daa ,mar waa Canada , mar waa UK ... fukin tuna head , aqli adoon weeye nacdal ku dhacday -du

Idoor ma ka hadlaya 'Caqli adoon', with something like 90% of Isaaq (according to the BBC) having immediate Jamaican ancestry? It's called cultivation and versatility, you construe it as 'flip-flopping'. I talk to you in a mild manner for example, as children react poorly to abrasive speech. Psychology, waryaa.

Gen. SNM,

Get the fuck out of here. I only entertain one invalid at a time.

[Ganjaweed]

Come on we are somalis, we have nothing in common with africans (minus muslims) except skin colour, and we have very little if anything to do with arabs.

Yes we are nomads, but so are mongols, tuaregs, rendille etc but none of those people are culturally close to somalis.
Yes we have oral poetry, but I can say we arent the only ones in the world who have that.
Yes we have a heavy arabic influence in somali, but so does persian, turkish and swahili to name a few.

My point is that somalis anre somali and we are muslim just leave it at that.


P.S. It is very obvious Razzberry suffers from a big inferiority complex, which she is trying to project onto somalis. It must be a legacy from the age of slavery .

[razzberry]

It is very obvious Razzberry suffers from a big inferiority complex, which she is trying to project onto somalis. It must be a legacy from the age of slavery .

And how do you figure that

[Ganjaweed]

It is very obvious Razzberry suffers from a big inferiority complex, which she is trying to project onto somalis. It must be a legacy from the age of slavery .

And how do you figure that

Well your always mentioning people looking down on black people. I recall a previous topic you made about some indian shop assistant or whatever treating white people better than you. I thought to myself "Who notices things like that? Do you find racial prejudice...or do you look for it?". I have to put your story about meeting a somali in doubt, as well. This is because had you met a somali, you would have understood in a fraction of a second , that we consider ourselves perfection incarnate. Somalia is the most wretched country on earth, but to me it is still heaven. I have never been to place I have enjoyed more (and I have been to quite a few lovely places dubai, egypt, USA, Turkey to name a few). This is not because somalia is economically superior to other countries, in fact the opposite the reality, but that I consider my people (with all their faults) head and shoulders above the rest of the world. Anyway, let me move back to the topic at hand. The point is that somalis dont care what arabs think of them because we considered ourselves always superior throughout history. Somalis calling themselves arab is a new phenomenon, due to "globalisation", arab league, economic and political gains, cultural similarities (mostly due to islam) and geographic proximity etc. While an african american has had a history of being oppressed and told that they are "beneath" their white "superiors". The fact that most AA and africans dont associate somalis with africa or worse consider us "half-breeds" should tell you the image they have of africa pounded into their heads by the white "master".

[Sir-Luggoyo]

I think Somalis are unique. Nothing in common (except of course Islam) with Eyrabs and likewise, nothing in common with Bantus, we are our own, waxaan nahay budo gaar u tuman.

Ina Cabdille Xassan recited a belittling poem to the Eyrabs when asked to seek support from them. A poem that alludes and classifies them as inferior, remarked about their unmanly sonsumation of the meat and concluded that they are the least aid in warring times

[Ganjaweed]

^^ Is it the "carabi waa naag" poem?

[Cumar-Labasuul]

I disagree with you Murax that we are more closer to Arabs, I also disagree with the notion that we are more closer to Africans. First of all you have to be more specific with who you are referring to in regards to 'Arabs', because I strongly believe that the only Arabs we are very similar to are from Yemen and to a smaller extent Sudan(North specifically). With that said I also believe that we somalis are more comfortable around sudanese and yemenis as opposed to khaliij arabs and africans - with the exception of canfar, oromo, cadari/harari. I base this on my experiences with arabs in saudi where the khaliij, not all but most, look down their noses on africans, asians and even non-khaliij arabs such as yemenis, sudanis and some north africans.
The reason I said we are not similar to africans is because culturally we are totally different and even the muslims ones we have nothing culturally in common.