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Abdalle, simple question state the school and educational background of that Somali man you speak of. Where did he learn the medical procedures that you speak of?

Qahira

let me ask you a question. Do you agree with my statement that somalis like to exaggerate?
Just a few hours ago somebody said 'war somalida iska dhaafe calaamka oo dhan baa yaqano'

I wanted to start an inspirational thread about active Somali scientists. So i was googling them and accidently came across a physician by the name of Elmi Ahmed Du'ale who's today the permanent representative of Somalia at the World health organisation. I saw his wiki and it says that he graduated from an Italian University in 1960 with a doctor of Medicine, that's three years before we allegedly produced our first physician. He served as minister of health between 1963 and 1968.

As you know somalis are biased to the bone and claim that he also is the first physician.

Dr. Cilmi wuxuu ku sifoobay takhtarkii ugu horeeyay ee loo soo tababaro qaranka isla markaasna u adeegay qaranka horaantii 1960kii. Dr. Cilmi wuxuu horay uga soo shaqeeyay isbitaalkii caanka ahaa ee “De Martino ee Muqdisho. Sidoo kale, wuxuu ahaa Agaasimihii Guud ee ugu horeeyay ee Wasaaradda Caafimaadka ka dib xuriyaddii qaranka ee Luulyo 1960. Waxaa xusid mudan in Dr. Cilmi uu ahaa Hormuudkii ugu horeeyay ee Kuliyadda Caafimaad ee Jaamacadda Qaranka ee Soomaaliya isla markaana uu ka ahaa Macallin Sare.

http://www.hiiraan.com/2005/july/Dr_Elmi_UN_SOM.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elmi_Ahmed_Duale

Here's speaking at the UN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OpvrdQjc2g

My logic has never failed me alxamdulilaah nor am i clan motivated if it concerns individuals. Beesha sade owe me apologies

^^ cuqdad u dhimo naannaabka ceeb

Even BBC calls him the first somali surgeon and this dhabyaco wuxu la yimid an unknown doctor that works in a isbitaal in Somalia. my uncle's a doctor who also works in Somalia. U should compare it with him not with a former Somali minister and the father of Somali medicine



* Wuxuu ku dhashay dhulka howdka looyaqaan agagaarka Galaadi korkeeda sannadkii 1936.
waxaa asaga oo 5 jirah lakeenay magalada Mogadishu halakaas oo dugsi ka bilaabay.
* Macallin buu noqday ayada oo dalka Talyaaniga waxabarasho oo u aaday horrantii 1950dii.
* wuxuu jaamicadda Rome ka bartay Dhaqtarnimo asaga oo dalka ku soo noqday 1963, noqdayna dhaqtarkii ugu horreyey oo Soomaali ah oo dadka qala (First Somali Surgeon) asaga oo ka shaqeyeynjiray Isbitaal Martini & Digfer

http://www.bbc.co.uk/somali/war/2010/10 ... eikh.shtml

abdalla11 wrote:I wanted to start an inspirational thread about active Somali scientists. So i was googling them and accidently came across a physician by the name of Elmi Ahmed Du'ale who's today the permanent representative of Somalia at the World health organisation. I saw his wiki and it says that he graduated from an Italian University in 1960 with a doctor of Medicine, that's three years before we allegedly produced our first physician. He served as minister of health between 1963 and 1968.

As you know somalis are biased to the bone and claim that he also is the first physician.

Dr. Cilmi wuxuu ku sifoobay takhtarkii ugu horeeyay ee loo soo tababaro qaranka isla markaasna u adeegay qaranka horaantii 1960kii. Dr. Cilmi wuxuu horay uga soo shaqeeyay isbitaalkii caanka ahaa ee “De Martino ee Muqdisho. Sidoo kale, wuxuu ahaa Agaasimihii Guud ee ugu horeeyay ee Wasaaradda Caafimaadka ka dib xuriyaddii qaranka ee Luulyo 1960. Waxaa xusid mudan in Dr. Cilmi uu ahaa Hormuudkii ugu horeeyay ee Kuliyadda Caafimaad ee Jaamacadda Qaranka ee Soomaaliya isla markaana uu ka ahaa Macallin Sare.

http://www.hiiraan.com/2005/july/Dr_Elmi_UN_SOM.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elmi_Ahmed_Duale

Here's speaking at the UN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OpvrdQjc2g

My logic has never failed me alxamdulilaah nor am i clan motivated if it concerns individuals. Beesha sade owe me apologies

I hope you understand the difference between a medical doctor, and a surgeon. Dr.Mohamed Aden Shiekh was the first Somali surgeon, not the first physician. Hence, the confusion of you denying him being the first surgeon, yet not proving any before him.

abdalla11 wrote:^Lool Alle nin rag buu ka dhigaye, dabo ruxiska iska daa. Rag is heesta ado pom-poms wadatid lama soo dhex galo

runta ha igu nicin nac nacdaada iyo malaayacnigaaga baan diiday doqonyahay

Dr Cilmi waa nin la yaqaano oo maaha nin qarsoomi kara..No one can deny his credentials But it didn't say" The first Somali surgeon" So Mr. Abdalle maxaad ugu diidi marxuumka darajadiisii adduunka?

abdalla11 wrote:I wanted to start an inspirational thread about active Somali scientists. So i was googling them and accidently came across a physician by the name of Elmi Ahmed Du'ale who's today the permanent representative of Somalia at the World health organisation. I saw his wiki and it says that he graduated from an Italian University in 1960 with a doctor of Medicine, that's three years before we allegedly produced our first physician. He served as minister of health between 1963 and 1968.

Are you so motivated by qabiil and bitterness, you would go all lengths including desecrating a tacsi topic to deny what u assume is the "Marehan boogeyman" firsts? Dr Elmi Ahmed Ducaale is Hawaadle and was a little kid during the time Dr Muhammad was practicing medicine. Dr Ducaale was a former diplomat in Siad Barre government and is now Somalia's ambassador to UN under Sharif. You are an embarrassment wallahi with your bitterness. Dr Mohammed Adan Sheikh was practicing medicine in the early 50's and only assume head surgeon in Martini and Digfeer, Somalia's two largest hospitals, where he was the only qualified Somali surgeon.

ciyaal_warta wrote: runta ha igu nicin nac nacdaada iyo malaayacnigaaga baan diiday doqonyahay

snoop12 wrote:

xoogSADE14 wrote: AUN Dr. Maxamed Aadan Sheekh was given his medical degree by the Kacaan government in 1963

error, Kacaan didnt exist at this time but took government 6 years later where during its term it had imprisoned Dr. Maxamed Aadan Sheekh for a period of 8 years if i remember correctly.

The colonel was being sarcastic, making fun of Abdulle. Because Siad Barre is such a dominating figure in Somalia's modern history, many people forget the pioneering nature of Marehan guys who were the first Somali men to fly, to publish magazines, to write the Somali language, to be doctors and surgeons, etc. He is making fun of Abdulle.

ilaahey ha una xariisto marxuumka

amiin

Ilaahey ha u naxariisto

"Marehan boogeyman"

Nimankan ilkayar ilmihi somalinet wadnahey kala baxeen,take it easy guys and let the young adults be.boogeyman kulahaa

alle ha u naxariisto a sad loss.

Coolcaaq, sidii lo'da cooska iska cun. Don't let me slap you like the other guy.

ciyaal_warta wrote:

abdalla11 wrote:^Lool Alle nin rag buu ka dhigaye, dabo ruxiska iska daa. Rag is heesta ado pom-poms wadatid lama soo dhex galo

runta ha igu nicin nac nacdaada iyo malaayacnigaaga baan diiday doqonyahay

you're cool expect when you perform one hell of a niiko for other guys, alle rag buu ka dhigay faca haa u niikin

kambuli wrote:Dr Cilmi waa nin la yaqaano oo maaha nin qarsoomi kara..No one can deny his credentials But it didn't say" The first Somali surgeon" So Mr. Abdalle maxaad ugu diidi marxuumka darajadiisii adduunka?

kambuli, waxaan u diiday marxuumka maleh. Some were refuting my statement 'somalis like to exaggerate' and were clan motivated when they were refuting that realistic statement

Voltage wrote:

abdalla11 wrote:I wanted to start an inspirational thread about active Somali scientists. So i was googling them and accidently came across a physician by the name of Elmi Ahmed Du'ale who's today the permanent representative of Somalia at the World health organisation. I saw his wiki and it says that he graduated from an Italian University in 1960 with a doctor of Medicine, that's three years before we allegedly produced our first physician. He served as minister of health between 1963 and 1968.

Are you so motivated by qabiil and bitterness, you would go all lengths including desecrating a tacsi topic to deny what u assume is the "Marehan boogeyman" firsts? Dr Elmi Ahmed Ducaale is Hawaadle and was a little kid during the time Dr Muhammad was practicing medicine. Dr Ducaale was a former diplomat in Siad Barre government and is now Somalia's ambassador to UN under Sharif. You are an embarrassment wallahi with your bitterness. Dr Mohammed Adan Sheikh was practicing medicine in the early 50's and only assume head surgeon in Martini and Digfeer, Somalia's two largest hospitals, where he was the only qualified Somali surgeon.

LOL@ boogeyman. What kind of boogeyman beggs the ones who he 'hunts' for more seats in their little regional admin. Teeda kale, how many times do i have to say that i didn't know his clan or where he came from until 'the colonel' mentioned it?
I don't deny anything of his achievements i just hate the way somalis exaggerate. Btw i like the way you changed from not having a physisian until 1963 (while we were flying in the air in 1950's) to we were practicing in medicine in the fifties, keep up and you will see we had physicians way before the sixties.

Being the first head of surgery of a hospital built by the colonizer isn't the same as claiming to be the first physician, i was just refuting the latter ridiculous statement.

PS: Isn't it funny that both your 'source' as my 'source' described two men to be the first somali physicians, just proves how ridiculously biased somalis are.

PSS: Don't act like an attention seeking dhoocil by saying this is my last comment on this thread and posting 6 comments afterwards