Sheik Xasan Tahir Aweys Surrenders

[BlackVelvet]

Shirib were there more, like was it a common thing?

No, because the war didnt last that long. But you shouldnt be surprised though even suit wearing moderates in Palestine are pro suicide when it serves their interest. If sh sharif didnt become president i doubt he would object to it either(not saying suicide bombing is good). Even the Japanese were doing it in WW2. This thing were suicide bombing became the defining factor of right or wrong is something recently new and probably used against muslims in the media.

Suicide bombings are the reason why I am against Al Shabab, if it is so common and acceptable why are we outraged? It can never be right or okay no matter how many people do it.

[Shirib]

Shirib were there more, like was it a common thing?

No, because the war didnt last that long. But you shouldnt be surprised though even suit wearing moderates in Palestine are pro suicide when it serves their interest. If sh sharif didnt become president i doubt he would object to it either(not saying suicide bombing is good). Even the Japanese were doing it in WW2. This thing were suicide bombing became the defining factor of right or wrong is something recently new and probably used against muslims in the media.

Suicide bombings are the reason why I am against Al Shabab, if it is so common and acceptable why are we outraged? It can never be right or okay no matter how many people do it.

Well Shariif sure as hell duped you, cause not too long ago he was authorizing them

[The`Republic]

Shirib are you enjoying bearing bad news?

[BlackVelvet]

Shirib were there more, like was it a common thing?

http://articles.latimes.com/2006/dec/01 ... g-somalia1

there's another one.

After the Ethiopians invaded there were more on Ethiopian and government bases, at that time it was hard to know who was doing what, whether Al Shabaab, ARS, or unaffiliated

They also denied the one that you posted on the Times. Maybe it really wasn't them?

[Alchemist]

Suicide bombings are the reason why I am against Al Shabab, if it is so common and acceptable why are we outraged? It can never be right or okay no matter how many people do it.

That is the million dollar question, why the outrage now? Do you know( some of the most moderate shayks (Yusuf Qardawi) is pro suicide bombing in Palestine? (again not making a case for suicide bombing )

You see the somali people are tired of war but at the time when the Ethiopian army invaded nobody really cared about suicide bombings if it got the job done. A strong army against bunch of freedom fighters, hey why not. In the end people love winners and once they realized shabaab couldnt win this war everything changed. people supported icu because they thought they could actually capture the whole country. Even guys who didnt pray supported them and were bringing fatwas from the net that allowed suicide bombings.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

Xassan qaxaaye should be killed!!!! wallaahi this animal deserv no mercy laakiin nasiib xumo
sh shariif is weak presedent. if was abdulaahi yusuf he probably u dhiibi lahaa ethiopia halkaasoo
xasan sheydaan si xun loogu dili lahaa.
Sh shariif waa inuu xasan ma daahire sharciga la horgeeyaa o aan la cafin.

[Colonel]

lol @ the extreme obstinacy displayed. This is where cute and innocent can approach feigned ignorance.

[The`Republic]

Alchemist, so now that you made the point clear if "non-religious" people engage in suicide bombing, can we agree that the act is heinous and disreputable especially as it has been practiced in Somalia?

[BlackVelvet]

Suicide bombings are the reason why I am against Al Shabab, if it is so common and acceptable why are we outraged? It can never be right or okay no matter how many people do it.

That is the million dollar question, why the outrage now? Do you know( some of the most moderate shayks (Yusuf Qardawi) is pro suicide bombing in Palestine? (again not making a case for suicide bombing )

You see the somali people are tired of war but at the time when the Ethiopian army invaded nobody really cared about suicide bombings if it got the job done. A strong army against bunch of freedom fighters, hey why not. In the end people love winners and once they realized shabaab couldnt win this war everything changed. people supported icu because they thought they could actually capture the whole country. Even guys who didnt pray supported them and were bringing fatwas from the net that allowed suicide bombings.

Now I finally get why Al Shabab supporters call pro TFG folks hypocrites.

[CaliBurco]

No, because the war didnt last that long. But you shouldnt be surprised though even suit wearing moderates in Palestine are pro suicide when it serves their interest. If sh sharif didnt become president i doubt he would object to it either(not saying suicide bombing is good). Even the Japanese were doing it in WW2. This thing were suicide bombing became the defining factor of right or wrong is something recently new and probably used against muslims in the media.

Suicide bombings are the reason why I am against Al Shabab, if it is so common and acceptable why are we outraged? It can never be right or okay no matter how many people do it.

Well Shariif sure as hell duped you, cause not too long ago he was authorizing them

[Saraxnow]

Lol, I remembered there were few suicide attacks during the '77 war against Ethiopia. Weird.

[Shirib]

Shirib were there more, like was it a common thing?

http://articles.latimes.com/2006/dec/01 ... g-somalia1

there's another one.

After the Ethiopians invaded there were more on Ethiopian and government bases, at that time it was hard to know who was doing what, whether Al Shabaab, ARS, or unaffiliated

They also denied the one that you posted on the Times. Maybe it really wasn't them?

They had to deny it, they were still in peace talks with the TFG at the time, and trying to assasinate the President would mean war.

But it was them, the one who bombed Abdullahi Yusuf they even released the name, pic, bio of the guy who carried out the attack some time later.

And Aweys was calling for suicide attacks when he was leading Xisbul Islam.

http://af.reuters.com/article/kenyaNews ... dChannel=0

[Shirib]

Suicide bombings are the reason why I am against Al Shabab, if it is so common and acceptable why are we outraged? It can never be right or okay no matter how many people do it.

That is the million dollar question, why the outrage now? Do you know( some of the most moderate shayks (Yusuf Qardawi) is pro suicide bombing in Palestine? (again not making a case for suicide bombing )

You see the somali people are tired of war but at the time when the Ethiopian army invaded nobody really cared about suicide bombings if it got the job done. A strong army against bunch of freedom fighters, hey why not. In the end people love winners and once they realized shabaab couldnt win this war everything changed. people supported icu because they thought they could actually capture the whole country. Even guys who didnt pray supported them and were bringing fatwas from the net that allowed suicide bombings.

Now I finally get why Al Shabab supporters call pro TFG folks hypocrites.

Talking to some people you would think that Somalia's problems started when Al Shabaab entered the arena. Al Shabaab hasn't done anything new, they might have magnified it, but they've pretty much been copy cats

[BlackVelvet]

Well I never really liked Gar Guduud but I didn't think he called for suicide bombings.

Talking to some people you would think that Somalia's problems started when Al Shabaab entered the arena. Al Shabaab hasn't done anything new, they might have magnified it, but they've pretty much been copy cats

I thought that too. I guess it was just a neat way to packup a problem. Damn I really did get duped.

[Alchemist]

Alchemist, so now that you made the point clear if "non-religious" people engage in suicide bombing, can we agree that the act is heinous and disreputable especially as it has been practiced in Somalia?

Voltage, personally i am against suicide bombings. I always thought the act was disreputable especially in a muslim country but my aim has always been the bigger picture. Even at the time of the prophet(pbuh) some of his companions did things in war that were against the teachings of Islam and the prophet admonished them for that very harshly but the Jihad never stopped. In any case just because i dont flip flop or support african Union or Ethiopia invading our country doesnt mean am pro suicide bombings. If you go back to my older post you will see am one of the few who actually held his position. Shabab are not the answer to our problems nor is TFG but the one who is pro sharia will always be closer to me.