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TheblueNwhite wrote:I'm supposedly the ciyaal and emotional, when it's you who's bitching at me like dumar foolaneysa.

War Shabeellada Hoose is a shared gobol, even a 2 yrs old kid from Hargeysa knows that.

Rabshoole doesn't need you to speak for him. Go find a qaraami song or something else to entertain your retarded self, leave affairs you have no business in or you don't know nothing about to niccas that know what time it is.

Oh yeah, go and fock yourself biatch. Blue ayuu ku waashey these days, naa naga fukh nacaladyahay .

Naagtan bal eega, nayaa orodoo wax ku wasa raadso.

Who said anything about shared Gobol. Jubboyinka are shared but at the end of the day it will be majority rules minority. The same with Shabeellada Hoose.

Look at this retard. GTFO and stop quoting me in every thread bitch.
Inuu isoo doontey ayuu hadana iska dhigaayaa inaan aniga kadaba qaatey. Orodoo shaqo yeelo naanaabyahaow qudhunka ah. Waxaan oo kale xageey ka keenaan horta.

You on my ignore list after this post.








Dir are not majority in Lower Shabeelle nor can they create a maamul for it without consulting and getting the approval of the other clans that share the gobol with them. Couple of niccas drinking tea in Hargeysa wont change the reality on the ground.

Blue, Adeer ha ooyin, meeshan kaftan iyo xag xagasho ayaa ka jira. Dont take this shit to heart. Plus Rabshoole proved they are majority

Rabshoole wrote:Blue, Mamul ahaan hadi laga hadlaayo, Galmudug/Ximan iyo Xeeb/Hiiraan all of them wouldn't be states that handle their own admin, because they don't meet the requirements, but who's to say they can't have a mamul ?
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Shebelle Hoose, qofki leh waa la ogyahay now that's a fact sxb.

According to The Price of Peace: Somalia and the United Nations 1991-1994, the Biyamal are the majority clan in the Lower Shebelle (Gilkes 1994, 144).

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in conjunction to what we've already established, add on parts of both jubbas, especially Jubba Hoose, Biyomal/OG dagaan. Noone can argue with that

Bro, Biyoomaal waxba uma diidani, don't get me wrong.

If as you say, Biyomaal are the majority, they would've made a maamul long ago. Hiiraan, the majority clan is Xawaadle. Who fought/fighting Alshabaab in Hiiraan? Xawaadle. Who fought HG in Hiiraan? Xawaadle.

As for Ximan and Xeeb, they claim Saleebaan territories only. Ma cidbaa kula share gareysa? no.

Now, where does Biyomaal claim exclusively in Lower Shabelle? Don't be sounding like OGs and MRs bro.
Reality is, if Biyomaal were majority in Lower Shabelle, they would not need to go all the way to Hargeysa to drink Shaax and ask for "Aid", as is written in the title.

I hope that you can see through what some of the Slanders on this thread are pushing. The same cats that were dissing Dir are now clapping for you. Something fishy going on here, keep your eyes open.

lower shabelle is exclusively a Mudulood and rahanwein region except some biyomaals in marka.

Lol War blue what is up, there is no hidden agenda nor is there a problem between us and beesha Hawiye, we might disagree on many things at times but
there is no hostility like with the Dooros. Aniga iyo Osob xagan saxiibo ayanu nahay and SareedoXareedo.

Blueandwhite,

does galmudug control all of Mudug? what about ximan and xeeb??.what about khatumo which only controls less than 20% of land it claims. The point is, there is no rule set, if the rule was as you mention then galmudug wouldn't make the cut as they don't even control a single state, but mere half.

If sacad got maamum, if saleebaan got maamul, if dhulbahante got maamul and none of them controls a single province, then what disqualifies Dir from creating for even half lower shabeele?

Rabshoole wrote:what exactly can SL do for them ?

Some states like the Lower shabeelle and the two Jubbas are shared between so many clans it will not work for any clan to claim them. No state in Somalia is exclusively settled by one clan. For a clan to take the leadership mantle and go about spearheading the creation of a maamul, they need to make up at least 50% of the population of the state and no clan in Lower Shabeelle. In Banadir, Middle Shabeelle, Hiiraan, Gedo, Puntland, Somaliland, Galgaduud, Bay, Bakool and maybe Mudug one clan or subclan can create a maamul because a majority would be evident but its complicated in the two Jubbas and Lower Shabeelle. Those 3 states should be administered directly by the government.

Somalifanatic wrote:Some states like the Lower shabeelle and the two Jubbas are shared between so many clans it will not work for any clan to claim them. No state in Somalia is exclusively settled by one clan. For a clan to take the leadership mantle and go about spearheading the creation of a maamul, they need to make up at least 50% of the population of the state and no clan in Lower Shabeelle. In Banadir, Middle Shabeelle, Hiiraan, Gedo, Puntland, Somaliland, Galgaduud, Bay, Bakool and maybe Mudug one clan or subclan can create a maamul because a majority would be evident but its complicated in the two Jubbas and Lower Shabeelle. Those 3 states should be administered directly by the government.

Now we say 50%. Here is what I think the federal govt has to start from scratch and constitute new federal states excluding Somaliland and Puntland as they both are well established. But rest.of these half state or two city regional maamuls must be abolished and new ones created based with parliamentary approval off course or anything goes and Dir get their own maamul as well.

TheblueNwhite wrote:

Rabshoole wrote:Blue, Mamul ahaan hadi laga hadlaayo, Galmudug/Ximan iyo Xeeb/Hiiraan all of them wouldn't be states that handle their own admin, because they don't meet the requirements, but who's to say they can't have a mamul ?
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Shebelle Hoose, qofki leh waa la ogyahay now that's a fact sxb.

According to The Price of Peace: Somalia and the United Nations 1991-1994, the Biyamal are the majority clan in the Lower Shebelle (Gilkes 1994, 144).

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in conjunction to what we've already established, add on parts of both jubbas, especially Jubba Hoose, Biyomal/OG dagaan. Noone can argue with that

Bro, Biyoomaal waxba uma diidani, don't get me wrong.

If as you say, Biyomaal are the majority, they would've made a maamul long ago. Hiiraan, the majority clan is Xawaadle. Who fought/fighting Alshabaab in Hiiraan? Xawaadle. Who fought HG in Hiiraan? Xawaadle.

As for Ximan and Xeeb, they claim Saleebaan territories only. Ma cidbaa kula share gareysa? no.

Now, where does Biyomaal claim exclusively in Lower Shabelle? Don't be sounding like OGs and MRs bro.
Reality is, if Biyomaal were majority in Lower Shabelle, they would not need to go all the way to Hargeysa to drink Shaax and ask for "Aid", as is written in the title.

I hope that you can see through what some of the Slanders on this thread are pushing. The same cats that were dissing Dir are now clapping for you. Something fishy going on here, keep your eyes open.

Who fought off HG warlords in sheebelle Hoose none other than Biyomaal, Who owns both seaport towns in Shebelle hoose today Biyomaal, Aside from Afgoye that is shared, Intaa kale districts yaa u badan, Biyomaal.
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If it's truly a shared dagaan how come we don't hear Digil or any other clans aside from Biyomaal, fending for themselves in shebelle hoose against the oppressions of Ceyr warlords ?
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Shebelle hoose is the least of their worries, at the moment, the events that are about to unfold in jubbas is far more important and they're preparing for it.
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qof waliba xodh baynu nahay to agree or disagree, Biyomaal waxey ka rabto SL ayaa iska yar, muda hore aye wax ka heli weeyen imika wax is badalaayo ma jidho, caynkaas waa mid aan ku huubo.

Rabshoole wrote:Siciid, Good too see SL taking notice of those Southern Dir who've died for the cause of SL
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PO, Your question is equivalent to asking is Reer Dini a MJ subclan ? Fiqi/M is a Surre Subsub clan not bijaamal.

is this the same ones that live in the luuq area? How many does the average count to fiqi mohamed, and then from fiqi to surre?

Rabshoole wrote:
Who fought off HG warlords in sheebelle Hoose none other than Biyomaal, Who owns both seaport towns in Shebelle hoose today Biyomaal, Aside from Afgoye that is shared, Intaa kale districts yaa u badan, Biyomaal.
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If it's truly a shared dagaan how come we don't hear Digil or any other clans aside from Biyomaal, fending for themselves in shebelle hoose against the oppressions of Ceyr warlords ?
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Shebelle hoose is the least of their worries, at the moment, the events that are about to unfold in jubbas is far more important and they're preparing for it.
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qof waliba xodh baynu nahay to agree or disagree, Biyomaal waxey ka rabto SL ayaa iska yar, muda hore aye wax ka heli weeyen imika wax is badalaayo ma jidho, caynkaas waa mid aan ku huubo.

Rabshoole,

Nice to see inaad hurdada ka kacday adeero. I support the interests of beesha Direed. Now with the Shabeellada Hoose secured, I think its time to whoop some ass in the Jubbas if Beesha doesnt get their piece of the pie.

Meyle, Don't quit your day job.

Perfect_Order wrote:

Rabshoole wrote:Siciid, Good too see SL taking notice of those Southern Dir who've died for the cause of SL
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PO, Your question is equivalent to asking is Reer Dini a MJ subclan ? Fiqi/M is a Surre Subsub clan not bijaamal.

is this the same ones that live in the luuq area? How many does the average count to fiqi mohamed, and then from fiqi to surre?

Yea, that's them.
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They're Surre, branch of Cabdalle, and than Cabdi Cabdalle, Fiqi/M. the rest of it, idk.

everyone is claiming jubboyinka now