Somali Medieval rulers and Elites of India

[gegiroor]

^^You got owned and made to travel from Moor, Berber, India, Habesha nobility, Bantu shareero to Ethiopian Beja all in one go. I feel it for you.

You are making litterally no sense and only show for shareero which is a somali word is some random assimilated bantus video. The same bantus make somali music and post it online are you going to claim somali music as bantu origin or habesha origin? with zero facts? the bantus use somali drums as well are somali drums bantu now or habesha?

The guy in the video said They found somali clan names and that the rulers were somali and you forget that the very same guy in the video wrote the very same book about the african elites of india. Huge fail when you deny facts and try to pass somalis off as abyssinians.

That statement sums it all up. How can anyone refute this discovery with such an irrefutable evidence?

TheMightNomad, stay on message bro and don't let others distract you. You've opened the eyes of Somalis - we're the only known people from the African continent who hit the seas and dominated other continents. This Somali sailing of high seas beats the crap outta of the myth made by Europeans that no group of people from this continents has sailed to other continents.

The discovery of that Somali sheikh leaving Mogadishu and taking Islam to Maldives is another major discovery that you and TheGoodShepperd brought here. I will definitely tell my kids about this important discovery!

That makes my day. I am off to fixing my car, and will spend doing the research on my side when insha-Allah time permits. Don't let anyone else discouraged you nor distracted you. Stay with your important message. With such important and long-neglected information introduced by you and others, this site is live again!

[TheMightyNomad]

^^You got owned and made to travel from Moor, Berber, India, Habesha nobility, Bantu shareero to Ethiopian Beja all in one go. I feel it for you.

You are making litterally no sense and only show for shareero which is a somali word is some random assimilated bantus video. The same bantus make somali music and post it online are you going to claim somali music as bantu origin or habesha origin? with zero facts? the bantus use somali drums as well are somali drums bantu now or habesha?

The guy in the video said They found somali clan names and that the rulers were somali and you forget that the very same guy in the video wrote the very same book about the african elites of india. Huge fail when you deny facts and try to pass somalis off as abyssinians.

That statement sums it all up. How can anyone refute this discovery with such an irrefutable evidence?

TheMightNomad, stay on message bro and don't let others distract you. You've opened the eyes of Somalis - we're the only known people from the African continent who hit the seas and dominated other continents. This Somali sailing of high seas beats the crap outta of the myth made by Europeans that no group of people from this continents has sailed to other continents.

The discovery of that Somali sheikh leaving Mogadishu and taking Islam to Maldives is another major discovery that you and TheGoodShepperd brought here. I will definitely tell my kids about this important discovery!

That makes my day. I am off to fixing my car, and will spend doing the research on my side when insha-Allah time permits. Don't let anyone else discouraged you nor distracted you. Stay with your important message. With such important and long-neglected information introduced by you and others, this site is live again!

Thanks bro the guy at 43:20 in the video was asked if the people called habshi meant ethiopian and the guy responded by saying that his ethiopian partner found somali clan names.

Why would they find somali clan names if the ruling elites were habashi slaves? Why would somalis conquer abyssinia and ship Abyssinian slaves to India? & later bantu slaves?

Why did ibn Battuta report that A somali sultan was ruling Indian island of maldives in the 13 century were we brought them islam. Why was most of the ruler Sufi muslims? How can people from Abyssinia not modern day Ethiopia btw but medieval Abyssinia be Sufi muslims.
When the empire was 100% jewish and christian state?

Wouldnt they rather build churches or synagogs and not sufi mosques which is seen all over mogadishu? The fact that somalis has been trading with indians since ancient times according to peripulus of the erythrean sea is a note worthy one.

Somalis even traded giraffes to the chinese

Middle Ages[edit]
Relations between Somalia and China long predate the Middle Ages. Through trade, the peoples of both areas established good relations. Giraffes, zebras and incense were exported to the Ming Empire of China, which established Somali merchants as leaders in the commerce between the Asia and the Horn of Africa,[2] and in the process influenced the Chinese language with the Somali language and vice versa. The Chinese exported celadon wares, spices and muskets in return for horses, exotic animals and ivory. The prominent Hui-Chinese explorer, mariner, diplomat and fleet admiral, Zheng He, arrived in his fourth and fifth voyage to the Somali cities of Mogadishu, Zeila, Merca and Berbera.[3] Sa'id of Mogadishu a Somali explorer travelled to China in the 14th century, when China was ruled by the Yuan Dynasty, and noted the trading communities of the Chinese ports and cities.

Exotic animals such as the giraffe caught and sold by Somali merchants were very popular in medieval China

First recorded africans to have contact with the chinese and indians.

We are the oldest recorded Sub Saharan African seafarers even own the oldest living boat in the world prolific Seafarers and traders. Yet they find Somalis governing parts of india to be strange thing.

I will not be discouraged becuz i will find many like minded somalis who are willing to explore somali history and are intellectually curious.

i cant comprehend such blind & blatant denial to simply dismiss this becuz of ur own inferiority complex is insane..
Thanks for the suport gregiroor at least one person is appreciative.

[comeAndGo]

Adali,

It's all about the end results. Meles may have used Barre but he never got any of Barre's visions off the ground including Cagdheer being free. Meles really gained nothing from Barre. No army, no weapons...

EPLF captured its weapons from the Derg forces. It supplied the TPLF and Oromo fighters.

Barre declared war on Ethiopia while the bulk of the army was in the north. He made early gains but eventually he was defeated and the defeat was so severe it brought about the end and total collapse of Somalia. That is the final result.

I know you guys count your chicken before the eggs hatch. I know.

EPLF used to be armed by arab states. Most of TPLF's armament was from derg's soldiers.

[WaaliCas]

Nomad,

Now you added the Chinese to your ancestry shopping. Zheng He visited the region in the 14th century but how does he link you to the Moor, Berber, Egyptians, Ethiopian rulers of Indian woredas, Beja, Bantu shareero?

The Somali tribal names came to India because they arrived with the British in the 18th century same way Indians arrived in East Africa.

That does not link you to Malik Ambran. You have to audition for another Bollywood movie. Nice try though.

ComeAgain,

I know Libya was but who else? Qadaffi was dirty leader. He was arming Somali rebels against Barre too.

[Bilis]

i cant comprehend such blind & blatant denial to simply dismiss this becuz of ur own inferiority complex is insane..
Thanks for the suport gregiroor at least one person is appreciative.

Your efforts are definitely appreciated walaal, make no mistake.

Coins minted by the Sultans of the Mogadishu Sultanate have apparently been found as far afield as Oceania. So clearly, the sultanates were part of a wide medieval commercial network. Just where exactly was its terminus is uncertain.

[TheMightyNomad]

Walicaas is retarded idiot! Jezuz!

And you ask why no one makes a single damn useful thread on this pitiful forum when you have idiotic black, arab and habesha bootyclappin trolls derailing every single one!

[TheMightyNomad]

i cant comprehend such blind & blatant denial to simply dismiss this becuz of ur own inferiority complex is insane..
Thanks for the suport gregiroor at least one person is appreciative.

Your efforts are definitely appreciated walaal, make no mistake.

Coins minted by the Sultans of the Mogadishu Sultanate have apparently been found as far afield as Oceania. So clearly, the sultanates were part of a wide medieval commercial network. Just where exactly was its terminus is uncertain.

They found medieval somali coins in oceania? I thought it was only as far as the united arab emirates!

[Bilis]

They found medieval somali coins in oceania? I thought it was only as far as the united arab emirates!

Yeah sxb, they apparently did. What's also interesting is that bronze pieces minted by the Sultans of the Ajuran Sultanate have also been found elsewhere:

"Gravestones and funeral inscriptions dating from 700 to 1000 AD and numerous ancient bronze coins which bear the names of Moslem sovereigns of South-Arabia, Persia and the Somali Sultans of the Ajuran Kingdom, indicate the long history of a stable civilized Moslem city life along the Somal' coast."

This means that there were at least two separate Somali sultanates that minted their own coins during the Middle Ages. Professional excavations will surely yield further interesting archaeological discoveries.

[TheMightyNomad]

They found medieval somali coins in oceania? I thought it was only as far as the united arab emirates!

Yeah sxb, they apparently did. What's also interesting is that bronze pieces minted by the Sultans of the Ajuran Sultanate have also been found elsewhere:

"Gravestones and funeral inscriptions dating from 700 to 1000 AD and numerous ancient bronze coins which bear the names of Moslem sovereigns of South-Arabia, Persia and the Somali Sultans of the Ajuran Kingdom, indicate the long history of a stable civilized Moslem city life along the Somal' coast."

This means that there were at least two separate Somali sultanates that minted their own coins during the Middle Ages. Professional excavations will surely yield further interesting archaeological discoveries.

They found ming dynasty artifacts in mogadishu as well!

A dragon vase and tea pot stil perfectly intact found in mogadishu!

The medieval silver coins were found in Arabia!

It could held something noteworthy if to somali sultanates minted coins prefferably bronse one found in oceania like you said

Somali medieval ajuuran currency

Ancient ming dynasty tea pot unhearted in mogadishu

[Bilis]

They found ming dynasty artifacts in mogadishu as well!

A dragon vase and tea pot stil perfectly intact found in mogadishu!

The medieval silver coins were found in Arabia!

It could held something noteworthy if to somali sultanates minted coins prefferably bronse one found in oceania like you said

Somali medieval ajuuran currency

Ancient ming dynasty tea pot unhearted in mogadishu

Cool mints and artifacts sxb.

Are those bronze pieces? Also, do you know in which museum if any those old coins are held? Or are they instead part of a private numismatic collection?

[TheMightyNomad]

They found ming dynasty artifacts in mogadishu as well!

A dragon vase and tea pot stil perfectly intact found in mogadishu!

The medieval silver coins were found in Arabia!

It could held something noteworthy if to somali sultanates minted coins prefferably bronse one found in oceania like you said

Somali medieval ajuuran currency

Ancient ming dynasty tea pot unhearted in mogadishu

Cool mints and artifacts sxb.

Are those bronze pieces? Also, do you know in which museum if any those old coins are held? Or are they instead part of a private numismatic collection?

You can find Those coins on wiki with info!

Actually Those are mogadishu sultanate coins which are silver
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajuran_Sultanate

Ajuuran produce rather bronze coins as currency instead

For trade, the Ajuran Sultanate minted its own Ajuran currency.[18] It also utilized the Mogadishan currency originally minted by the Sultanate of Mogadishu, which later became incorporated into the Ajuran empire.[19] Mogadishan coins have been found as far away as the present-day country of the United Arab Emirates in the Middle East.[20]

I dont know where They keep the coins but that ming dynasty dragon tea pot you saw is in the hands of the collecters as well as the 6th century plague of the azanian maiden!

[Bilis]

I dont know where They keep the coins but that ming dynasty dragon tea pot you saw is in the hands of the collecters as well as the 6th century plague of the azanian maiden!

Excellent bro. That's great to hear.

[learnmore1]

Somalis didn't rule shit in India. Yes there were communities that came relatively recently but the black rulers were general slaves that gained power or traders or military rulers going back hundreds of years.

No they werent the black were f-king slaves and servant along with xabashis! The bantus were shipped from somali ports along with xabashis !why do try to argue against historians of the past like ibn battuta and the fella from metplank institute?

Somalis ruled abyssinia,yemen, india and many islands. its fact written down.

Stop bootyclapping niggers and go to do that on hiphop.com or islandmix.com

communities relatively recent my ass! learn to read

You're wrong. The slaves were not xabashis and it was the slaves that settled and became reformers.

And please tell me when you ruled those places Apart from the mere >20year Adal-Abysinnian war, you've never ruled any of those places...

You definitely have an identity complex?

[Jabuutawi]

^
Why did you run away from the other thread, just because I called you a mutt, which is true, and Awrastale and I asked you about the origins of your people and history? You seemed to have gotten an amnesia.

[learnmore1]

^
Why did you run away from the other thread, just because I called you a mutt, which is true, and Awrastale and I asked you about the origins of your people and history? You seemed to have gotten an amnesia.

I didn't.... I don't come on frequently and I wasn't quoted or notified. I've already said what I had to say on there and it was going around in a circle. Find me something that says Solomon-Sheba gave rise to 35,000,000+ Habesha's in the Horn because The Kebra Nagast not only talks about that, but talks about the conversions of people already in the Northern Aksumite parts of Ethiopia and Eritrea and these were Habesha people too, not just what you think it does. Northern Ethiopia/Eritrea is our land...

You can call me a mutt if you want , I couldn't care less, but I identify as where I am actually from, not half Arab or a 'one Yemeni grandparent' like some of you guys.

Are the forefathers of each of your clans not Arab? Am I mistaken? ....