Several liyyu police killed by armed Oromo warriors

[Waachis]

Multinicking trash. I'm now 100% sure this troll isn't Oromo but that Amxaar bitch Awrastaale

Don't waste your time

run my ip address then and prove it...walahi i have no reason to multi nick on here... me and hawdian disagree on issues too, but yeah, have anyone check our ip addresses and you'll see we're on two opposite ends of the world..i'm in texas, and i think he's in australia? or something

[Khalid Ali]

oromo is ethiopia and Ethiopia is oromo. u cant separate the 2 the secessionist oromo is a minority. i support oromo karbaashing liyuu but Ethiopia cannot be divided its just not viable in the future some of these somalis are acting emotional. they to know if the ethiopians state leaves the somali kilil. issa will fight ogaden and isaaq will fight ogaden and there will be a blood bath. the Ethiopia state must remain united and strong ruled by a strong amhara oromo coalition. in order to keep the county intact when the minority is removed. oromo count the most rases ras ali and ras gobana. ras mekonnen. they should never leave their history or run away.

Okay, keeping your reasoning in mind...why do you support the flawed argument to separate Somalia?

Why is your case different than the Oromo who don't share ethnicity with the ruling party?

very simple i never wanto separate from somalia. it made a union with somalia.and our country was called somali republic. that republic no longer exitst we made a voluntary union. with them so we were never part of somalia. before 1884 i have never ever heard of ur people.befoew 1884 we shared nothing after 1884 we shared nothing. we only shared a short.lived cancerous union 30 years of those 30 years 11 years we were at war with you. and 26 years of independence. u and the oromo guy are the same for me. the oromo guy is majority in ethiopia why should he run away from ethiopia ethiopia is his oromos ruled over gonder oromo had the largest and biggest army that defeated Italy in 1896. oromo won the war for meles zenawi against eritrea 1998. oromo is much stronger than darod. so i see no reason why oromo should run away from tigres they own 7 times the land tigres have they are 45 million why on earth should they break up one of africas oldest civilization


go oromo

nagaat

[Waachis]

Let me worry about the boggie man called Ogaden dominating other clans at a later date. I see Amharas have taught you well, all of a sudden you are concerned for Somali clans.

You speak of forming federalism, isn"t that what Ethio has already?

We will demarcate the borders between our two
peoples by coming up with a mutual agreement.

The choice is clear, either an independent Somali region (my preference) or partitioned Somali region, some areas joining Djibouti, others Somalia.

War? What you Oromos gonna fight with? Amharas will send you all to an early grave while they enjoy the spoils of war at your expense. Last time I checked unified Somalis never lost to Habashi, including Oromos, w/o outside help.

1. Amharas aint the ones who armed 1 clan, to fight another, in somalia and in ethiopia; you can blame the tigrayans for that. you know, the same tigrayans who were once hosted by siad barre in mogadishu? yeah, those tigrayans. the same ones who know your people, perhaps, even better than YOU do.

2. no. today's ethiopia is still a centralized, unitary state; that masquerades itself as a federal union. true federalism means oromos can never interfere with your affairs, and vice-versa; but we remain 1 country dedicated to alleviating poverty and hunger and so on.

3. if we can demarcate the borders, we would have done it by now. we east africans tend to be stubborn and hard headed. compromise to most of our people is seen as a sign of weakness. do not get me wrong, i would love to be proven wrong and see oromo-somali border issues solved once and for all. while our people fight, tigrayans laugh in the background at us both. they love to see two cushitic mainly muslim people destroying each other instead of destroying abyssinian elites.

4. most of ethiopia will not sit and watch their country disintegrate. they would fight. amharas, oromos, gurages, aderes, siltes, sidama. think about it! the minority groups with the little land have the most to lose if ethiopia breaks up: militarily, politically, economically, etc. so they'd fight tooth and nail, as will the oromo and others.

5. do not forget----somalia needed and accepted foreign help to fight in 1978 too. somalia did not build those tanks you used, somalia did not make those rifles you used, somalia did not build that ammo, the magazines, and so on. it just happens that ethiopia is seen as being more FRAGILE and IMPORTANT to the outside world.

Somalia purchased its tanks and other military hardware you speak of....you literally had Foreign soldiers on the ground fighting in the front line. While the Russians gave you free weapons and provided the Cubans with the intelligence and the libiyan and Yemani along with Russia and the US etc provided much needed and decisive air support

Exactly. So did Ethiopia. Neither country produced their own arms. Somalia also attacked at a time Ethiopia was weakened by the transition of a new government and arms supplier (from the emperor--to the derg; from America to the Soviets).

[Kismaayo21]

1. Amharas aint the ones who armed 1 clan, to fight another, in somalia and in ethiopia; you can blame the tigrayans for that. you know, the same tigrayans who were once hosted by siad barre in mogadishu? yeah, those tigrayans. the same ones who know your people, perhaps, even better than YOU do.

2. no. today's ethiopia is still a centralized, unitary state; that masquerades itself as a federal union. true federalism means oromos can never interfere with your affairs, and vice-versa; but we remain 1 country dedicated to alleviating poverty and hunger and so on.

3. if we can demarcate the borders, we would have done it by now. we east africans tend to be stubborn and hard headed. compromise to most of our people is seen as a sign of weakness. do not get me wrong, i would love to be proven wrong and see oromo-somali border issues solved once and for all. while our people fight, tigrayans laugh in the background at us both. they love to see two cushitic mainly muslim people destroying each other instead of destroying abyssinian elites.

4. most of ethiopia will not sit and watch their country disintegrate. they would fight. amharas, oromos, gurages, aderes, siltes, sidama. think about it! the minority groups with the little land have the most to lose if ethiopia breaks up: militarily, politically, economically, etc. so they'd fight tooth and nail, as will the oromo and others.

5. do not forget----somalia needed and accepted foreign help to fight in 1978 too. somalia did not build those tanks you used, somalia did not make those rifles you used, somalia did not build that ammo, the magazines, and so on. it just happens that ethiopia is seen as being more FRAGILE and IMPORTANT to the outside world.

Somalia purchased its tanks and other military hardware you speak of....you literally had Foreign soldiers on the ground fighting in the front line. While the Russians gave you free weapons and provided the Cubans with the intelligence and the libiyan and Yemani along with Russia and the US etc provided much needed and decisive air support

Exactly. So did Ethiopia. Neither country produced their own arms. Somalia also attacked at a time Ethiopia was weakened by the transition of a new government and arms supplier (from the emperor--to the derg; from America to the Soviets).

No. There is a HUGEEE! Difference in foreign troops providing you with weapons and fighting in the front line for you and simply purchasing weapons from a 3rd party to fight yourself.

You are suggesting we had foreign help. Not a single country helped Somalia but over 5 countries assisted you. Do not paint us with the same brush.

And you and tigre, the liyuu etc are all one camp.

[Waachis]

Somalia purchased its tanks and other military hardware you speak of....you literally had Foreign soldiers on the ground fighting in the front line. While the Russians gave you free weapons and provided the Cubans with the intelligence and the libiyan and Yemani along with Russia and the US etc provided much needed and decisive air support

Exactly. So did Ethiopia. Neither country produced their own arms. Somalia also attacked at a time Ethiopia was weakened by the transition of a new government and arms supplier (from the emperor--to the derg; from America to the Soviets).

No. There is a HUGEEE! Difference in foreign troops providing you with weapons and fighting in the front line for you and simply purchasing weapons from a 3rd party to fight yourself.

You are suggesting we had foreign help. Not a single country helped Somalia but over 5 countries assisted you. Do not paint us with the same brush.

And you and tigre, the liyuu etc are all one camp.

Who taught the Somali army back then how to use those arms? Who advised them on tactics? Or do you think the SNA became a strong and efficient fighting force with no assistance other than arms?
you did a treacherous thing, by attacking Ethiopia when it was weak and going through a coup/regime change; so do not cry when the tables are turned.
Did u forget how ethiopia smashed somali in the first conflict in the ogaden in the 1960s? that's when ethiopia was somewhat stable and they won.
the fact is--all of you got foreign assistance---but the oromo never did---we relied mainly on our own people.

[Kismaayo21]

Exactly. So did Ethiopia. Neither country produced their own arms. Somalia also attacked at a time Ethiopia was weakened by the transition of a new government and arms supplier (from the emperor--to the derg; from America to the Soviets).

No. There is a HUGEEE! Difference in foreign troops providing you with weapons and fighting in the front line for you and simply purchasing weapons from a 3rd party to fight yourself.

You are suggesting we had foreign help. Not a single country helped Somalia but over 5 countries assisted you. Do not paint us with the same brush.

And you and tigre, the liyuu etc are all one camp.

Who taught the Somali army back then how to use those arms? Who advised them on tactics? Or do you think the SNA became a strong and efficient fighting force with no assistance other than arms?
you did a treacherous thing, by attacking Ethiopia when it was weak and going through a coup/regime change; so do not cry when the tables are turned.
Did u forget how ethiopia smashed somali in the first conflict in the ogaden in the 1960s? that's when ethiopia was somewhat stable and they won.
the fact is--all of you got foreign assistance---but the oromo never did---we relied mainly on our own people.

Again that's besides the point. Purchasing and learning how to use Weapons and actually having people fight for you in the frontline is a different thing. Don't confuse the two and don't compare them.

You are part of Ethiopia don't separate yourself and act like your a separate entity.

I have not mentioned anything about the state of Ethiopia, wether it's divided or united that's besides the point.

It's as simple as we were all alone, our allies turned their backs on us. We fought all alone against all the Ethiopian tribes along with their International allies.

Don't brush it under the rug and discredit the brave SNA and their comanders.

We are coming back soon. Both you the tiger and then Liyuu will learn who is boss once again.

Yo I'll meet the authentic Somalis, not a knock pff

[Waachis]

I know they are two different things, but the fact is, are there rules in war, especially in the horn of Africa?
Did Somalis care that Ethiopia was going through internal turmoil when they attacked in the 1977-1978 war?
So why complain when under-handed tactics are used against you? When Ethiopia was a little more stable, in the 1963 war, Ethiopia won.
I know I am a part of Ethiopia, geographically, but until I see my people getting equal rights; I won't make myself and the Ethiopian state synonymous. Oromos, for the most part, like the Afars, the Sidama, the Konso, and others, are still marginalized people in Ethiopia.
Ethiopia until now has always represented a handful of abyssinian elites (it was shewan amhara-oromo yesterday, and is tigrayan today).
Once I see Oromos sharing in the power, in relations to their numerical strength and the majority of natural resources that they contribute, than I can relate myself to the Ethiopian state.
I still support one Ethiopia, because the situation could be worse, but I do not support the actions of the government, unless they are fighting poverty.
SNA was brave, nobody denied that, the somali people in general are very brave warriors, but not organized and not united, much like their neighbors the oromo-the afar-etc. the semitic people [amhara, tigrayans, eritrean semitic groups] seem to be more organized with a tradition of having a centralized government/and of course getting the aid and sympathy of white europe

[AwRastaale]

Oromo warriors like Ras Makonnen, Ras Darge and half Oromo Atse Menelik conquered Ogaden.

Your chained to Ethiopia and freedom denied because of Oromo warriors.

In 1963 it was a quick decisive victory for Ethiopia but this time it was delivered by Eritreans.

In 1977 Ogaden and the Daroods fled from 80% of the arms supplied to Somali Republic because they were chased by Oromo and Cubans.

The only time Ogaden ever harassed Oromo was in the last decade of the 18th century when they found the Bale Oromo in the open.

But while in pursuit or chasing these Oromo especially across the Shabelle river with spears, the mighty Yejju and Raayyu showed up leading hundreds of thousands of Abyssinian soldiers.

They decimated the Ogaden in days, looting their cattle, taken camels as bargaining chip, killing 4,000 in just one battle and building bases all the way to Degehbur.

The Ogaden had no idea what hit them and had not been for the Italians who halted these Abyssinian Oromo, they would have occupied as far as Hobyo.

As for Ethiopia and Oromo, the two are inseparable. Oromo is Ethiopia and Ethiopia is Oromia.

Not only had Oromo expanded Ethiopia to what it is today (modern state) but it was the Oromo-native Emperor Haile Selassie who renamed Abyssinia Ethiopia.

The only place that got away was Eritrea and that's because Oromo played little to no role on that front.

It was four Oromo armies who also delivered the Adwa victory, the second greatest African victory over Europeans after Hannibal.

These armies were led by Dejazmach Balcha Safo, Ras Ali Mohammed, Ras Makonnen and the Queen of Wollo, who set Menelik free from Tewodros II.


Facts.

[Waachis]

Oromo warriors like Ras Makonnen, Ras Darge and half Oromo Atse Menelik conquered Ogaden.

Your chained to Ethiopia and freedom denied because of Oromo warriors.

In 1963 it was a quick decisive victory for Ethiopia but this time it was delivered by Eritreans.

In 1977 Ogaden and the Daroods fled from 80% of the arms supplied to Somali Republic because they were chased by Oromo and Cubans.

The only time Ogaden ever harassed Oromo was in the last decade of the 18th century when they found the Bale Oromo in the open.

But while in pursuit or chasing these Oromo especially across the Shabelle river with spears, the mighty Yejju and Raayyu showed up leading hundreds of thousands of Abyssinian soldiers.

They decimated the Ogaden in days, looting their cattle, taken camels as bargaining chip, killing 4,000 in just one battle and building bases all the way to Degehbur.

The Ogaden had no idea what hit them and had not been for the Italians who halted these Abyssinian Oromo, they would have occupied as far as Hobyo.

As for Ethiopia and Oromo, the two are inseparable. Oromo is Ethiopia and Ethiopia is Oromia.

Not only had Oromo expanded Ethiopia to what it is today (modern state) but it was the Oromo-native Emperor Haile Selassie who renamed Abyssinia Ethiopia.

The only place that got away was Eritrea and that's because Oromo played little to no role on that front.

It was four Oromo armies who also delivered the Adwa victory, the second greatest African victory over Europeans after Hannibal.

These armies were led by Dejazmach Balcha Safo, Ras Ali Mohammed, Ras Makonnen and the Queen of Wollo, who set Menelik free from Tewodros II.


Facts.

Thanks brother, for sharing your knowledge. We may not always see eye-to-eye, but I have always respected your intellect.
Most Somalis view Ethiopian history in a simplistic viewpoint (as amhara being the big bad conqueror), when in reality, it's not that simple.
It's nice to see a Somali brother who took the time to study the history.

[Kismaayo21]

Oromo warriors like Ras Makonnen, Ras Darge and half Oromo Atse Menelik conquered Ogaden.

Your chained to Ethiopia and freedom denied because of Oromo warriors.

In 1963 it was a quick decisive victory for Ethiopia but this time it was delivered by Eritreans.

In 1977 Ogaden and the Daroods fled from 80% of the arms supplied to Somali Republic because they were chased by Oromo and Cubans.

The only time Ogaden ever harassed Oromo was in the last decade of the 18th century when they found the Bale Oromo in the open.

But while in pursuit or chasing these Oromo especially across the Shabelle river with spears, the mighty Yejju and Raayyu showed up leading hundreds of thousands of Abyssinian soldiers.

They decimated the Ogaden in days, looting their cattle, taken camels as bargaining chip, killing 4,000 in just one battle and building bases all the way to Degehbur.

The Ogaden had no idea what hit them and had not been for the Italians who halted these Abyssinian Oromo, they would have occupied as far as Hobyo.

As for Ethiopia and Oromo, the two are inseparable. Oromo is Ethiopia and Ethiopia is Oromia.

Not only had Oromo expanded Ethiopia to what it is today (modern state) but it was the Oromo-native Emperor Haile Selassie who renamed Abyssinia Ethiopia.

The only place that got away was Eritrea and that's because Oromo played little to no role on that front.

It was four Oromo armies who also delivered the Adwa victory, the second greatest African victory over Europeans after Hannibal.

These armies were led by Dejazmach Balcha Safo, Ras Ali Mohammed, Ras Makonnen and the Queen of Wollo, who set Menelik free from Tewodros II.


Facts.

Thanks brother, for sharing your knowledge. We may not always see eye-to-eye, but I have always respected your intellect.
Most Somalis view Ethiopian history in a simplistic viewpoint (as amhara being the big bad conqueror), when in reality, it's not that simple.
It's nice to see a Somali brother who took the time to study the history.

This guy is more Ethiopian than you. He even has it proudly displayed on his display picture. He is the knock off guys I was referring to earlier on. Him and the liyuu are known to be cannon fodders for the Tigray regime.

[Kismaayo21]

I know they are two different things, but the fact is, are there rules in war, especially in the horn of Africa?
Did Somalis care that Ethiopia was going through internal turmoil when they attacked in the 1977-1978 war?
So why complain when under-handed tactics are used against you? When Ethiopia was a little more stable, in the 1963 war, Ethiopia won.
I know I am a part of Ethiopia, geographically, but until I see my people getting equal rights; I won't make myself and the Ethiopian state synonymous. Oromos, for the most part, like the Afars, the Sidama, the Konso, and others, are still marginalized people in Ethiopia.
Ethiopia until now has always represented a handful of abyssinian elites (it was shewan amhara-oromo yesterday, and is tigrayan today).
Once I see Oromos sharing in the power, in relations to their numerical strength and the majority of natural resources that they contribute, than I can relate myself to the Ethiopian state.
I still support one Ethiopia, because the situation could be worse, but I do not support the actions of the government, unless they are fighting poverty.
SNA was brave, nobody denied that, the somali people in general are very brave warriors, but not organized and not united, much like their neighbors the oromo-the afar-etc. the semitic people [amhara, tigrayans, eritrean semitic groups] seem to be more organized with a tradition of having a centralized government/and of course getting the aid and sympathy of white europe

That's all that's there to discuss. Your internal politics does not concern us. You have meddled in ours for 27 years but it's okay, we take it to the chin, and we also take accountability for it as Somalis. We know who our enemies are. And we know how to deal with the issue

I suggest you also take the 77 loss to the chin, and take responsibility for any of your shortcomings instead of coming on here talking about "I wasn't ready" you knew it was a fight..what did you expect?. You are clearly a geek who has never been in a fight

[Waachis]

I know they are two different things, but the fact is, are there rules in war, especially in the horn of Africa?
Did Somalis care that Ethiopia was going through internal turmoil when they attacked in the 1977-1978 war?
So why complain when under-handed tactics are used against you? When Ethiopia was a little more stable, in the 1963 war, Ethiopia won.
I know I am a part of Ethiopia, geographically, but until I see my people getting equal rights; I won't make myself and the Ethiopian state synonymous. Oromos, for the most part, like the Afars, the Sidama, the Konso, and others, are still marginalized people in Ethiopia.
Ethiopia until now has always represented a handful of abyssinian elites (it was shewan amhara-oromo yesterday, and is tigrayan today).
Once I see Oromos sharing in the power, in relations to their numerical strength and the majority of natural resources that they contribute, than I can relate myself to the Ethiopian state.
I still support one Ethiopia, because the situation could be worse, but I do not support the actions of the government, unless they are fighting poverty.
SNA was brave, nobody denied that, the somali people in general are very brave warriors, but not organized and not united, much like their neighbors the oromo-the afar-etc. the semitic people [amhara, tigrayans, eritrean semitic groups] seem to be more organized with a tradition of having a centralized government/and of course getting the aid and sympathy of white europe

That's all that's there to discuss. Your internal politics does not concern us. You have meddled in ours for 27 years but it's okay, we take it to the chin, and we also take accountability for it as Somalis. We know who our enemies are. And we know how to deal with the issue

I suggest you also take the 77 loss to the chin, and take responsibility for any of your shortcomings instead of coming on here talking about "I wasn't ready" you knew it was a fight..what did you expect?. You are clearly a geek who has never been in a fight

Politics of your neighbors country, will always, in one way or another, affect the politics in your region.
For example--when the oromo and amhara protests were scaring the tigrayans, they were pulling troops back from mogadishu.
this means, less war crimes being committed by ethiopian troops in somalia! get it now?
this is a direct effect due to internal politics in ethiopia.
and as long as the somali state/ogaden region is within ethiopia, those somalis are considered ethiopian, and their general welfare is at least somewhat related to the general welfare of the ethiopian state.
and i suggest you take the 1963 ass whipping to the chin too, when ethiopia was stable, somalia could not capture any land.
stating the facts is not complaining, it's what it is is---the truth.
imagine if ethiopia were to invade somalia today, engage the new SNA, smash them to bits, and then brag? what points would ethiopia get for destroying the army of a failed state? none....
and LOL i do not have to brag about the fighting i've done---anytime you're in texas, i can show you what i can do, instead of talking about it

[Kismaayo21]

I know they are two different things, but the fact is, are there rules in war, especially in the horn of Africa?
Did Somalis care that Ethiopia was going through internal turmoil when they attacked in the 1977-1978 war?
So why complain when under-handed tactics are used against you? When Ethiopia was a little more stable, in the 1963 war, Ethiopia won.
I know I am a part of Ethiopia, geographically, but until I see my people getting equal rights; I won't make myself and the Ethiopian state synonymous. Oromos, for the most part, like the Afars, the Sidama, the Konso, and others, are still marginalized people in Ethiopia.
Ethiopia until now has always represented a handful of abyssinian elites (it was shewan amhara-oromo yesterday, and is tigrayan today).
Once I see Oromos sharing in the power, in relations to their numerical strength and the majority of natural resources that they contribute, than I can relate myself to the Ethiopian state.
I still support one Ethiopia, because the situation could be worse, but I do not support the actions of the government, unless they are fighting poverty.
SNA was brave, nobody denied that, the somali people in general are very brave warriors, but not organized and not united, much like their neighbors the oromo-the afar-etc. the semitic people [amhara, tigrayans, eritrean semitic groups] seem to be more organized with a tradition of having a centralized government/and of course getting the aid and sympathy of white europe

That's all that's there to discuss. Your internal politics does not concern us. You have meddled in ours for 27 years but it's okay, we take it to the chin, and we also take accountability for it as Somalis. We know who our enemies are. And we know how to deal with the issue

I suggest you also take the 77 loss to the chin, and take responsibility for any of your shortcomings instead of coming on here talking about "I wasn't ready" you knew it was a fight..what did you expect?. You are clearly a geek who has never been in a fight

Politics of your neighbors country, will always, in one way or another, affect the politics in your region.
For example--when the oromo and amhara protests were scaring the tigrayans, they were pulling troops back from mogadishu.
this means, less war crimes being committed by ethiopian troops in somalia! get it now?
this is a direct effect due to internal politics in ethiopia.
and as long as the somali state/ogaden region is within ethiopia, those somalis are considered ethiopian, and their general welfare is at least somewhat related to the general welfare of the ethiopian state.
and i suggest you take the 1963 ass whipping to the chin too, when ethiopia was stable, somalia could not capture any land.
stating the facts is not complaining, it's what it is is---the truth.
imagine if ethiopia were to invade somalia today, engage the new SNA, smash them to bits, and then brag? what points would ethiopia get for destroying the army of a failed state? none....
and LOL i do not have to brag about the fighting i've done---anytime you're in texas, i can show you what i can do, instead of talking about it

Go ahead, do you think that Ethiopia could don't you think they would've grabbed it with both ass cheeks? Do you think they are doing Somalia a favour? Our enemies and their lackeys are clear to us like daylight. I didn't come nor care about your politics, this is somalinet, please understand that. If I was eager or was somewhat remotely interested in your history I would've gone onto one of your Oromo forums. I don't care about any of that.

You corrected yourself end of discussion.

[Kismaayo21]

I know they are two different things, but the fact is, are there rules in war, especially in the horn of Africa?
Did Somalis care that Ethiopia was going through internal turmoil when they attacked in the 1977-1978 war?
So why complain when under-handed tactics are used against you? When Ethiopia was a little more stable, in the 1963 war, Ethiopia won.
I know I am a part of Ethiopia, geographically, but until I see my people getting equal rights; I won't make myself and the Ethiopian state synonymous. Oromos, for the most part, like the Afars, the Sidama, the Konso, and others, are still marginalized people in Ethiopia.
Ethiopia until now has always represented a handful of abyssinian elites (it was shewan amhara-oromo yesterday, and is tigrayan today).
Once I see Oromos sharing in the power, in relations to their numerical strength and the majority of natural resources that they contribute, than I can relate myself to the Ethiopian state.
I still support one Ethiopia, because the situation could be worse, but I do not support the actions of the government, unless they are fighting poverty.
SNA was brave, nobody denied that, the somali people in general are very brave warriors, but not organized and not united, much like their neighbors the oromo-the afar-etc. the semitic people [amhara, tigrayans, eritrean semitic groups] seem to be more organized with a tradition of having a centralized government/and of course getting the aid and sympathy of white europe

That's all that's there to discuss. Your internal politics does not concern us. You have meddled in ours for 27 years but it's okay, we take it to the chin, and we also take accountability for it as Somalis. We know who our enemies are. And we know how to deal with the issue

I suggest you also take the 77 loss to the chin, and take responsibility for any of your shortcomings instead of coming on here talking about "I wasn't ready" you knew it was a fight..what did you expect?. You are clearly a geek who has never been in a fight

Politics of your neighbors country, will always, in one way or another, affect the politics in your region.
For example--when the oromo and amhara protests were scaring the tigrayans, they were pulling troops back from mogadishu.
this means, less war crimes being committed by ethiopian troops in somalia! get it now?
this is a direct effect due to internal politics in ethiopia.
and as long as the somali state/ogaden region is within ethiopia, those somalis are considered ethiopian, and their general welfare is at least somewhat related to the general welfare of the ethiopian state.
and i suggest you take the 1963 ass whipping to the chin too, when ethiopia was stable, somalia could not capture any land.
stating the facts is not complaining, it's what it is is---the truth.
imagine if ethiopia were to invade somalia today, engage the new SNA, smash them to bits, and then brag? what points would ethiopia get for destroying the army of a failed state? none....
and LOL i do not have to brag about the fighting i've done---anytime you're in texas, i can show you what i can do, instead of talking about it

that's international for " I am not about that life"

[Waachis]

That's all that's there to discuss. Your internal politics does not concern us. You have meddled in ours for 27 years but it's okay, we take it to the chin, and we also take accountability for it as Somalis. We know who our enemies are. And we know how to deal with the issue

I suggest you also take the 77 loss to the chin, and take responsibility for any of your shortcomings instead of coming on here talking about "I wasn't ready" you knew it was a fight..what did you expect?. You are clearly a geek who has never been in a fight

Politics of your neighbors country, will always, in one way or another, affect the politics in your region.
For example--when the oromo and amhara protests were scaring the tigrayans, they were pulling troops back from mogadishu.
this means, less war crimes being committed by ethiopian troops in somalia! get it now?
this is a direct effect due to internal politics in ethiopia.
and as long as the somali state/ogaden region is within ethiopia, those somalis are considered ethiopian, and their general welfare is at least somewhat related to the general welfare of the ethiopian state.
and i suggest you take the 1963 ass whipping to the chin too, when ethiopia was stable, somalia could not capture any land.
stating the facts is not complaining, it's what it is is---the truth.
imagine if ethiopia were to invade somalia today, engage the new SNA, smash them to bits, and then brag? what points would ethiopia get for destroying the army of a failed state? none....
and LOL i do not have to brag about the fighting i've done---anytime you're in texas, i can show you what i can do, instead of talking about it

that's international for " I am not about that life"

About ''what life?''
You have to be more specific Zoomali pirate boy.
If it's fist-fight, come to my hood and ask the big homies how I get down.
Anybody can squeeze guns---but it takes heart, skills and tactics to win a fist fight.