Ethiopian and Western propagandist for the Ogadeen narrative, in the Hawd region against the Isaaq.

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Re: Ethiopian and Western propagandist for the Ogadeen narrative, in the Hawd region against the Isaaq.

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X.Playa wrote: Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:31 pm
TeeriReturns wrote: Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:54 am
X.Playa wrote: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:38 pm

I don't see any betrayal there unique to the Ogaden. The ogaden themselves rejected the Bevin plane of giving both three territory to the Somalis.

In fact it was none other Makhtal Dahir who rejected Bevin plane and sided with Ethiopia claiming the British plane is essentially an Isaaq scheme to rule the Ogaden.

So who betrayed who?

did you not read dude, it tells you there bevin succumbed to Soviet pressure in the UN, Ethiopia and Russia have always been allies, they supplied them the weapons menelik used since 1880s because waa same orthodox church,

Bevin gave in to pressure from the soviets and her allies, adn thus by 1954-58 Ogaden was out of British hands and into Ethiopian hands, betrayed by Britannia


also you keep saying garad Maqtal this and thast, can you bring proof? ironic you ask us proof, yet you make stuff up, war the NEW YORK TIMES was caling garad Maqtal AUN a fundamentalist in 1942 as he fought the Ethiopians and British before the British betrayed the land, the NY TImes was calling him the Sayid number 2, freeing his country,

sure haile was always trying to appease Ogaden and offered all things, but this is because he knew the problem we were causing for him, atleast we were men enough to fight and be willing to die for our land, whilst other tribes sat idly,
How Bevin succumbing to the league pressure is a betrayal to Ogaden who rejected his plan to begin with reasoning it will make Isaaq our masters??.

The Ogadeen collaborated with imperial Ethiopian, through out the years of Menelik , Ras Mekanus , queen Tauia, and Heila Selaasi. When Heila Salassi was in power in the 1930-1960s the Ogadeen were a loyal pet, they collaborated with the Ethiopians, they fought for Ethiopia against Italy and it always has been like that till the the 2nd war world concluded . Only then did the Ogaden motivated by the newly created SYL did the Ogaden sought independence from their Amahara masters. And even that was brief , by 1950 all the Ogadens were back in the bosom of thier Ethiopian masters , with the exception of sultan Bihi who joined Micheal Mariano's campaign for the Hawd and Rserve area.
stop making things up and bring proof we fought with the ethiopians during the italian invasion? in fact Sultan Muxamud Haybe went to xamar to gather Ogaden forces on the side of the italians and aided them in their war against ethiopia on the condition Sultan haybe will become the king of italian ethiopia,

ironic you ask for proof yet you write and make up anything you want , bring proof mate, of all the assertions you made, otherwise good night,
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No you didn't, you fought along side of the Ethiopians just like Makhtal Dahir. Once the Italian won the war, the Ogaden joined the Italian tribal armies and fought along the Italians.

That was the case till Italy lost the war and Britain took over Ogadenia and began disarming the Ogaden Italian militia using Isaaq troops, this took place throughout the BMA era 1942-1948.
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X.Playa wrote: Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:55 pm No you didn't, you fought along side of the Ethiopians just like Makhtal Dahir. Once the Italian won the war, the Ogaden joined the Italian tribal armies and fought along the Italians.

That was the case till Italy lost the war and Britain took over Ogadenia and began disarming the Ogaden Italian militia using Isaaq troops, this took place throughout the BMA era 1942-1948.

xaplaya, why are you so obbssed with Oagden and Ogadeniya?

your poeple got 10,000 rifles from the english, invaded Ogadeniya, we karbashed you, you lost, your horses and camels started eating each other, your idoor soldiers had to commit cannibalism, the Oagdens encircled them and made you submit, you lost, its was nick named lafaruug

you dont try to inavde Oagden, yall are surrounded, my advise to you dude is just move on, history has moved on, your ancestors tried their luck, they lost, we won, you were the aggressor, by god almighty we prevailed, you suffered the consequences, yet here you are trying to do revisionist history, just give it up dude, your obsession with Ogaden and daroods lately is unreal,
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TeeriReturns wrote: Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:07 pm
X.Playa wrote: Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:55 pm No you didn't, you fought along side of the Ethiopians just like Makhtal Dahir. Once the Italian won the war, the Ogaden joined the Italian tribal armies and fought along the Italians.

That was the case till Italy lost the war and Britain took over Ogadenia and began disarming the Ogaden Italian militia using Isaaq troops, this took place throughout the BMA era 1942-1948.

xaplaya, why are you so obbssed with Oagden and Ogadeniya?

your poeple got 10,000 rifles from the english, invaded Ogadeniya, we karbashed you, you lost, your horses and camels started eating each other, your idoor soldiers had to commit cannibalism, the Oagdens encircled them and made you submit, you lost, its was nick named lafaruug

you dont try to inavde Oagden, yall are surrounded, my advise to you dude is just move on, history has moved on, your ancestors tried their luck, they lost, we won, you were the aggressor, by god almighty we prevailed, you suffered the consequences, yet here you are trying to do revisionist history, just give it up dude, your obsession with Ogaden and daroods lately is unreal,
I have asked you to bring a source proving this Daarood urban myth , that the British armed the Isaaq to kill and take over the ogadens or Dhulbahante.

This myth is baseless.
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Darood alkhadam why do you guys love to lie..I have seen darood claiming araweelo dhagdheer cigaal shidaad. What's wrong with you alkhadam people. Makhtal worked and.conspired with the emperor haile selassie abdirahman Sayid siigeyste was the interior minister for haile selassie. Daroodoow if you want to.claim something bring a source. Darood waa dhiiilo. Oh kale indho adag. Wey soo tagantahay daloolki wey. Kala haysa wide open
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Khalid Ali wrote: Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:14 pm Darood alkhadam why do you guys love to lie..I have seen darood claiming araweelo dhagdheer cigaal shidaad. What's wrong with you alkhadam people. Makhtal worked and.conspired with the emperor haile selassie abdirahman Sayid siigeyste was the interior minister for haile selassie. Daroodoow if you want to.claim something bring a source. Darood waa dhiiilo. Oh kale indho adag. Wey soo tagantahay daloolki wey. Kala haysa wide open
American newspaper discussed the legacy of Makhtal Daahir in 1960s.Indha kala fur...futada isku yara qabo ..deetana ka bogo Taarikhda Mujaahid Garaad Makhtal :win:

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BestPlaya wrote: Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:42 pm
Khalid Ali wrote: Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:14 pm Darood alkhadam why do you guys love to lie..I have seen darood claiming araweelo dhagdheer cigaal shidaad. What's wrong with you alkhadam people. Makhtal worked and.conspired with the emperor haile selassie abdirahman Sayid siigeyste was the interior minister for haile selassie. Daroodoow if you want to.claim something bring a source. Darood waa dhiiilo. Oh kale indho adag. Wey soo tagantahay daloolki wey. Kala haysa wide open
American newspaper discussed the legacy of Makhtal Daahir in 1960s.Indha kala fur...futada isku yara qabo ..deetana ka bogo Taarikhda Mujaahid Garaad Makhtal :win:

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Its meaningless post from somalinet archives, what exactly you proved now ? That Makhtal after 1962 joined the liberation cause and ceased to be an Ethiopian stooge!

Isn't that a common knowledge captain obvious.
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X.Playa wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:42 am
BestPlaya wrote: Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:42 pm
Khalid Ali wrote: Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:14 pm Darood alkhadam why do you guys love to lie..I have seen darood claiming araweelo dhagdheer cigaal shidaad. What's wrong with you alkhadam people. Makhtal worked and.conspired with the emperor haile selassie abdirahman Sayid siigeyste was the interior minister for haile selassie. Daroodoow if you want to.claim something bring a source. Darood waa dhiiilo. Oh kale indho adag. Wey soo tagantahay daloolki wey. Kala haysa wide open
American newspaper discussed the legacy of Makhtal Daahir in 1960s.Indha kala fur...futada isku yara qabo ..deetana ka bogo Taarikhda Mujaahid Garaad Makhtal :win:

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Its meaningless post from somalinet archives, what exactly you proved now ? That Makhtal after 1962 joined the liberation cause and ceased to be an Ethiopian stooge!

Isn't that a common knowledge captain obvious.
It is the obvious. can be found in the somnet archives and also in Somali news outlets.Now, loser Monk ,isn't the obvious that you're attacking the Mujahid with baseless lies and typical Xaarplaya propaganda.You're qabilist cunt who is severely mind fucked by Daroods .You write this to deal with your stress and inferiority complex :pacspit:

This picture sums up your ignoble roots :scusthov:
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BestPlaya wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:37 am
X.Playa wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:42 am
BestPlaya wrote: Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:42 pm

American newspaper discussed the legacy of Makhtal Daahir in 1960s.Indha kala fur...futada isku yara qabo ..deetana ka bogo Taarikhda Mujaahid Garaad Makhtal :win:

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Its meaningless post from somalinet archives, what exactly you proved now ? That Makhtal after 1962 joined the liberation cause and ceased to be an Ethiopian stooge!

Isn't that a common knowledge captain obvious.
It is the obvious. can be found in the somnet archives and also in Somali news outlets.Now, loser Monk ,isn't the obvious that you're attacking the Mujahid with baseless lies and typical Xaarplaya propaganda.You're qabilist cunt who is severely mind fucked by Daroods .You write this to deal with your stress and inferiority complex :pacspit:

This picture sums up your ignoble roots :scusthov:
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Son of a sexy single mother, what was your Makhtal doing since 1935 long before 1962?

This is the subject .
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Xaarplayer, he was bustin a nut on your grandmother like morgan did to your mother.
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Loser monk.Read his biography very well.Haduu ilaahay iidoor-AfDhogor kaa dhigay ood taarikh madow leedahay waad mid adiga kuu talaa .waligaaba xag-xago dad aadan gaari karin :myman:

TAARIIKHDII MAKHTAL DAHIR.

Garaad Makhtal Graad Daahir Garaad Axmad Garaad Yusuf ( Makhtal Dahir) waxa uu noolaa (1894-1999). Kuna dhashay deegaanka Dhagaxbuur,hooyadiina waxaa lagu magacaabi jiray Wehiya cuncun.
Garaad waxa uu noqday 1920 kadib markii walaalkii Cabdi oo la filayay in uu noqdo garaad kana mid ahaa ciidaadii ingriisku uu sun siiyay ciddan Itobiyaan ahaa iyo saraakiil, kadibna uu hubkii ka urursaday una qeeybiyay dadkii somalida ,ayaa walaalkii Cali uu Garaad noqday ka dibna Makhtal, Makhtal oo la dagaalamay ingriiska asaga oo aaminsanaa fekirkii daraawiishta ,kana careeysnaa ingriiska oo deegaankiisa ku soo rogay sharci ahaa in aan Hal xaas ka badan la guursan Karin iyo in caruurtu dhigtaan isgoolada ingriiska. Mar kale 1948 waxa uu ka carrooday Boqor Xayla Salaase oo deegaankiisa ku dhax safrayay. Wax yar kadin Makhtal wuxuu xubin ka moqday SYL iyo wakiilkooda deegaanka Ogaden,taa oo iyana ka careeysiisay Xayle salaase . Makhtal waxa uu bilaabay halgan ciidankiisii ugu horeeyay ee Jigjiga weerara waxa ay ahaayeen 6 nin oo kaliya Fiiri:dagaal rogaal celin ah ayaa Xayle ku soo qaaday 1949,kadibna Makhtal waxa uu soo aaday xamar si uu uga qaybgalo shirweeynihii SYL.

Nasiib daro, waxaa xiray Talyaanigii Xamar joogay,wuxuu u dhiibay Ingriiskii oo asna ku sii wareejiyay Amxaarada waxaa uu xabsiga kula jiray Olol diinle in kastoo Xayle mar amray in la dilo haddana waxaa loo wareejiyay xabsiga Alabaqa oo uu ku jiray 12 sanno.

Waxaa la sii daayay 1961 waxa uuna aaday dhagax buur oo markaa kacsaneed iyada oo 1960 reer dhagaxbuur markii ay maqleen in somalidu xorooday ay magaalada dhagax buur ka dhax taageen calankii soomaalida taa oo xabashidu ka carootay. Si xabashidu culeeyskaa u dajiso 1962 ayeey makhtal u magacaabeen Governatoore. Halkii laga filayay in uu wax dajiyo ayuu dadkii ku yiri: "Ma ogtihiin in aad gumeeysi ku hoos jirtiin". kadibna asagii iyo qaar ka mid ahaa Police-ka ayaa gadooday oo keeynta galay asagoo 1963 odayaasha dhaqanka ka codsaday in ay ku soo biiraan.


waxa uu kula kulmay odayaashii “Bali Xubiya” oo ka tirsan Doolo odayaashii ku fekerka ahaa waxaa ka mid ahaa Ugaas Xirsi ,. Makhtal waxa uu asaasay xisbi uu u bixiyay Nasrullaah, isla markii Amxaaradii ayaa soo weerartay dadkiina keeynta ayeey galeen, oo xirya ciidan oo yar yar ayeey sameeysteen,waxa ayna hub weeydiisteen dowladii somalida. Makhtalna 12 maalmuud ayuu lugeeynayay si uu xamar ku yimaad.

Dowladii kacaanka ayaa Beer iyo Guri ka siisay Degmada Jannaale ee Sh/hoose ,Kacaankuna uma ogoleeyn in uu ka mid noqdo Jabhadii Somali galbeed, sababta oo aheed Makhtal waxa uu rabay in marka hore la helo Somali galbeed oo xur ah kadibna Somali ku biirto.laakin kacaanku wuxuu rabay in haddii ay xoroowda ay toos ugu biirto Somali weeyn.

Wixii mudadaa ka dambeeya waxa uu joogay Mogadishu illa 1992,markaa ayuu u gooray “Weyla lagu xir”, iyadoo itobiya isbedel ka dhacay oo la soo dhaweeynayo dadkii Boqortooyada ka carary , ayaa waxaa u yeeray Ra’iisul wasaare Milaas ayaana guri degiyay.
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lol there is a reason why you find ogaden in jigjiga, and a 1000 miles away in Garrisa. We conqurred those lands while eydoors sat their asses in berbera and hargaysa. We fought the English with dhulbahante and other somali tribes, while they bent over backward and worked for the queen to suppress somalis.

But in the mind of the eydoor, they conqurred the most lands, but still live in a 100 mile radius for god knows how long(excluding the lands they share with dhulos and warsans and samaroons).


This is why you see them trying to create a false history for themselves since they are only known for working against somali interests since the beginning of time. It's funny how nothing changed from a 100 years ago when they were british lackeyes, maantana axmaar iyo arab baa futada ku wata.
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it's funny how nothing changed for the cagdheer since 100 years ago, slaves and still are slaves to this day. let that sink in. 2018 and still slaving like the good adoons they are.
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Sauron wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:18 pm it's funny how nothing changed for the cagdheer since 100 years ago, slaves and still are slaves to this day. let that sink in. 2018 and still slaving like the good adoons they are.
that's quite ironic iidoor Tumaal.

In Somalia u used to be dominated by the kacaan and currently there is no icraaf coming.Face the reality.U will forever remain Ethiopian colony until a Darood lead powerful SNA come to free u from your Mental captivity and Darodphobia.

Currently ,in Ethiopia u live under the mercy of Ogaden and we do occasionally discipline your langaab tumaals in Hawd.

In Kenya you're non existent. Langaab boy u can't escape the reality on ground.iidoor is iidoor ,an ignoble race with Bucayrian origin. This picture sums up your ignobility :shaq:

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Low iq cagdheer, you can talk out of your futo all you like but you know I am speaking nothing but the truth.

this is you then
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and this is you now
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