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[quote="Apallo"](quote) by xaar-player 1- Muqdisho the heart land of the Hawiye and Dir 2- Hargaysa 99% Isaaq 3- Burco 99% Isaaq 4- Kismaayo
how the hell is burco-buuryoweyne the third city in somalia
your telling me burco is bigger then baidabo or bosaasso
Inside somalia's borders its harder to tell who is the majority between hawiye and darood and could go either way but the fact that isaaq never ever had a president in somalia is very telling [/quote]
Saying hargeysa was 99% isaaq at that time is like saying Moqadishu was 99% Hawiye---------> very stupid.
Reer Jalafaa mareexaanka dhan ka badan ee meesha ka aamus saxib [/quote]
Gama rer Jalaf horta waxba kama sheegayi abti baan u nahay habar mareexaana wee dashay lakin MADARKICIS HIRAAB OO DHAN rer Diini o laf ka mid ah Mareexaan ma gaaraan umana dhawaadaan runta dhab ah hadaan eegeeno.
MADARKICIS OO DHAN waxay dagaan sparesely from Hobyo to Dhusamareb, rer diinina EAST AFRIKOO DHAN BAY HOGAAMIYAAN
Saying hargeysa was 99% isaaq at that time is like saying Moqadishu was 99% Hawiye---------> very stupid.?????
And who was talking about Hargaysa then, we are talking about todays modern Hargaysa which is double its size in the 1980's from 500,000 to 1 million today, and don't tell me some invicible Daarood lives in hargaysa
Any way what ever happened to the faith that Ogaadeen number as the Chines????
Any evidence to refute post?? or was it the old Daarood bubble the old oral fart and faith on once maltitude with no single shred of evidence. The ball is in the Koombo court, i'd wait before going for the kill.
What is there to refute other than confirming the spread out of Darod in the Ogaden region. If it were not Ogaden that reside in the districts of the 9 regions of the Somali state, it would be Darod, either Jidwaq(Baritire and Abasgul) or Harti and Geri. I am using Ogaden and Somali region interchangeably. To Insert Oromo as the tribes that settle the Somali region is a travesty of justice and shows your deep animosity and envy. The Somali Region in Ethiopia alone has a population estimated to be 6 Million, 80% of which are Darod. (Jidwaq, Geri, Harti, Ogaden)
Coming back to the reality, I believe Majeerteen alone outnumbers Isaaq. Saxib, Not only do they settle the three largest regions of Somalia, they occupy also in large number in Ethiopia, Kenya, Mogadisho in its hay days, Kismayo the largest third city in Somalia also in its hay days and even outside. Only this sub clan was strategically equiped to extend their Sultanate to the tribes of Hawiye, let alone winning a international recognition of their sultanate.
Where does Isaq settle? Historically, the Iiidor has been dominated and pushed into the interior of the west of Somaliland. Their ancestor and posterity first settling inside Sanaag points to this fact.
It is very unfair to compare Darod with any major considred tribe in Somalia. A minority clan would have never been a dominant in the History. Even in the era of Ahmed Gran, majority of his army came from Darod. Imagine 16th century, Darod army penetrating deeply into region of Shoa , Amhara, Tigre and further Tana River. HIstorians termed it as the Conquest of Horn of Africa. Inimitable achievement!
Coming back to the subject, i do have less time right now and this post is just a tentative part of my rebuttle. Time assured i would clear your biases and envy .
Where is the beef sxb, don't keep repeating to me the faith that you have in your numbers, i can say reer Suguule out number the entire Ogaadeen, but then unlike you Daarood i have to back up my claims. The ball is in your court go to Xaliimo Shirwac's coffee shop and dare challenge my previous 4 provinces and the settlement of the district.
Coming back with this lame Majeerteen Vs Isaaq or Cagdheer out numbers the chines is old fables. We need facts, figures and historical base.
I havn't got time for any of the tribalists here, but i would like to know what your qabiil does for you sxb, particularly you because u never seem to get bored of qabiil iyo afaarihiisa.
where the state failed the old Somali social system tribalism made up most of its shortages, in most nomadic tribal settlement in Somalia tribes took care of the poor the widowed and the old.. it has done it for centuries.
What destroyed your country is individuals, Savoy city crooks who preyed on the minds of the urbanized Somalis, nationlisim. modernism was its motto and corruption and worldy gains was its aim. What brought you to America wasn't Somali social groupings, but a failed politics.
Iam not convinced sxb. Somali social system tribalism can not give me a somali passport that i can freely go to anywhere in the world with, nor does it give me the same honour that fair political system free from corruption and tribalism which would allow me to live happily in my homeland would. There is a diffetence between close family members that help their relatives when they are going through hardships and a well established " social system tribalism" as you put it, that helps people when misfortunities befall on them. So exactly what are tribes useful for?
Lord Diplock,I know garissa is much better than it was couple years ago thanks to the ogaden businssemen/women.But still Garissa will never be part of greater ogaadenya,and it shouldnt be.Thats the way it should be.
