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Re: When did you find out....

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:30 am
by Gedo_Boy
mwaura,

Look in history many powerful people started off as arrogant, unruly, independent nomads.

Somalis don't wanna be like the Arabs or have inferiority complexes towards them. I have many friends from Arab countries who tell me how arrogant the Somalis are and they walk around like it's their country.......many of them admired the Somalis for that.


Secondly, I don't mean to say this as derogatory, but yes Somalis do have derogatory words for everybody from Europeans to Arabs to Africans. Too many Africans need more of that...maybe not as much as Somalis but more of it instead of defering to Europe & the white man for everything.

How can Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda be run by Indians? That's maybe something you can learn from Somalis.

Re: When did you find out....

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:32 am
by Gedo_Boy
Here's some quotes from the book 'WARRIORS: Life & Death Among the Somalis' by Gerald Hanley:


"A Somali always felt himself to be twice as good as any white man, or any other kind of man at all, and still does, even when he is wrong. Islam does wonders for the self respect of non-white people and Christianity is right to worry about the spread of Islam in Africa, and must honestly face the question of why it has happened - "

Re: When did you find out....

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:32 am
by Gedo_Boy
"....You get into that way of thinking in the Somali waste. You think that way because the Somalis bitterly resent the white man, and struggle continually, and admirably, by lies and intrigue, to fight off his influence which spells the end of their peculiar world. You cannot beat them. They have no inferiority complexes, no wide-eyed worship of the white man's ways, and no fear of him, of his guns or of his official anger. They are a race to be admired, if hard to love."

Re: When did you find out....

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:33 am
by Gedo_Boy
"Everytime a Somali got whipped, an Italian soldier was killed"

"Wandering in The Shag (desert) were Somalis with some of the sharpest intelligences in the continent, nomads who had been forced into being parasites of the camel, for centuries, and could anyone ever find a way of using all that courage and intelligence?"

"There is no one alive as tough as the Somali nomad. No one.
An askari wounded in a fight in the Haud country walked 14 miles holding his guts in his hand, was sewn up and lived to soldier again. And the women are as spiritually strong as their men."

Re: When did you find out....

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:34 am
by Gedo_Boy
"Of all the desiccated, bitter, cruel, sunbeaten wildernesses which starve and thirst beyond the edges of Africa's luscious, jungled centre, there cannot be one more Christless than the one which begins at the northern foot of Mount Kenya and stretches to the foothills of Abyssinia, and from there to the dried-out glittering tip of Cape Gardafui where the hot karif winds blow in from where the long sharks race under the thin blue skin of the ocean. You can never think of those wildernesses without thinking of daggers and spears, rolling fierce eyes under mops of dusty black crinkly hair, of mad stubborn camels, rocks too hot to touch, and blood feuds whose origins cannot be remembered, only honoured in the stabbing. But of all the races of Africa there cannot be one better to live among than the most difficult, the proudest, the bravest, the vainest, the most merciless, the friendliest; the Somalis."



"I knew an Italian priest who had spent over thirty years among the Somalis and he made two converts, and it amazed me that he got even those two. The Prophet has no more fervent, and ignorant, followers, but that is not their fault that they are ignorant.Their natural intelligence is second to none and when the education factories start work among them they should surprise Africa, and themselves."

here's another one......

"I never saw a Somali who showed any fear of death, which, impressive though it sounds, carries within it the chill of pitilessness and ferocity as well. If you have no fear of death you have none for anybody else's either, but that fearlessness has always been essential to the Somalis who have had to try and survive hunger, disease and thirst while prepared to fight and die against their enemies, their fellow Somalis for pleasure in the blood feud, or the Ethiopians who would like to rule them, or the white men who got in the way for a while."

Re: When did you find out....

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:56 pm
by Phd in naago kudis
if you are somali

"look down on others"

cigaal shidaad

Re: When did you find out....

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:05 pm
by cabdallah252
somalia is not the poorest country in the world atleast parts of it arnt


Puntland is much richer (per capita) than ethiopia, eritrea, liberia, burundi, malawi, sierra leone, niger and many more

Re: When did you find out....

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:54 am
by Fale
Wax la yiraahdo Somalia hadda ma jirto....laakiin waxaa jira dad la yiraahda ama sheegta Somali oo ku nool aduunka dacafadiisa.

RIP The country and the Land used to be known as Somalia !

Re: When did you find out....

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:50 am
by mwaura
Gedo-boy its always amazing to find a true literate in this zoo!Actually I read that book in 93 and remember a few things (I recall details of good books)that he mentioned in his peculaliarly ethnocentric (the true englishman) way. He aslo said Kikuyus were well on their way to civilisation, having developed a form of writing based on weaving patterns (its called gicandi, btw).
Hanley wrote about the abuse the African soldiery faced from moryaans when xalimos discovered they were not merely lusted over but cherished and actually appreciated by the former.
In Uganda and Kenyas case this is no longer correct."How can Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda be run by Indians? That's maybe something you can learn from Somalis."

Re: When did you find out....

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:54 pm
by BABYGIRL123
When I Was In Highscool Baan Ogadaay Other Countries Are On The Same Level.

Re: When did you find out....

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:39 pm
by FAH1223
[quote="Gedo_Boy"]Here's some quotes from the book 'WARRIORS: Life & Death Among the Somalis' by Gerald Hanley:


"A Somali always felt himself to be twice as good as any white man, or any other kind of man at all, and still does, even when he is wrong. Islam does wonders for the self respect of non-white people and Christianity is right to worry about the spread of Islam in Africa, and must honestly face the question of why it has happened - "[/quote]

lol