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Twisted, understand discussing a mere one document that names your clan but thrice is hardly something to grapple about. All it does is reinforce the fact that you are a periphery footnote in Somali history.

As for that paragraph you pasted about the Imam Abgaal....was he not the same one swearing fealty to the Geledi ruler?

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2506/26077732bk3.png

The I believe the appropriate word used in your document was "dominated".

All in all, you deserve a clap. I mean it IS the first time you have seen your name recorded in history is it not?

The book is for another day.

Voltage,

You have been so eager to criticize Mudulood for killing "only' 18 Italian invaders and their famous explorer at Lafoole right? What do you tell us about this DISGUSTING performance of prostitution and loyalty to the English by your ancestors? We're all ears. you are a big fan of talking about Mudulood "traitors", right? so lets hear you views on these disgusting acts of treason committed by your ancestors

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Jubbaland Chiefs send Plea to england to join Army.


London, Nov.10- The London Times has received froma correspondent a copy of a petition signed by the principal Somali chiefs in Jubbaland, asking that they allowed to fight for England. The document is as follows:

To His Highness the Governor.Through the hakim of Jubbaland. Salaams, yea, many salaams, with god's mercy, blessing, and peace. After salaams.

We, the Somali of Jubbaland, both Herti and Ogaden, comprising all the tribes but not including the Tulamuya Ogaden who live in Biskaya and Tanaland and the Marehan, DESIRE HUMBLY to address out.

In the former days of the Somali have fought against the government. Even lately the Marehan have fought against the government. Now, we have heard that the German Government have declared a war on the English Government. Behold, our "fitna" against the English Government is finished. As the monsoon wind drives the sand hills of our coast into new forms, so does this news of Germans evil-doing drive our hearts and spears into service of the English Government. The Jubbaland Somali are with the English Government. DAILY IN OUR MOSQUES WE PRAY FOR THE SUCCESS OF THE ENGLISH ARMIES. DAY IS OUR NIGHT AND NIGHT IS OUR DAY WITH US UNTIL WE HEAR THAT THE ENGLISH ARE VICTORIOUS. GOD KNOWS THE RIGHT. HE WILL HELP THE RIGHT. We have heard the English Askaris have been sent to fight for us in Europe. HUMBLY WE ASK WHY NOT THE SOMALI FIGHT FOR ENGLAN ALSO. WE BEG THE GOVERNMENT TO ALLOW OUR WARRIORS TO SHOW THEIR LOYALTY. In former days the Somali tribes made fitna against each other. Evan now it is so: it is our custom; yet with the GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE GERMANS WE ARE AS ONE OURSELVES, OUR WARRIORS, OUR WOMEN, AND OUR CHILDREN. BY GOD IT IS SO. BY GOD IT IS SO.

A FEW DAYS AGO MANY TROOPS OF THE MILITARY LEFT THIS COUNTRY TO EAT UP GERMANS WHO HAVE INVADED OUR COUNTRY IN AFRICA. MAY GOD PROSPER THEM. YET, OH HAKIM, WITH ALL HUMBLENESS WE DESIRE TO BEG OF THE GOVERNMENT TO ALLOW OUR SONS AND WARRIORS TO TAKE PART OF THIS GREAT WAR AGAINST THE GERMAN EVIL-DOERS. THEY ARE READY. THEY ARE ANGER. GRANT THEM THE BOON. GOD AND MAHOMED IS WITH US ALL.

IF GOVERNMENT WISH TO TAKE AWAY ALL THE TROOPS AND POLICE FROM JUBBALAND, IT IS GOOD. WE PLEDGE TO ACT AS TRUE GOVERNMENT ASKARIS UNTIL THEY RETURN.

WE HUMBLY BEG THAT THIS OUR LETTER BE PLACED AT THE FEET OF OUR KING AND EMPEROR, WHO LIVES IN ENGLAND, IN TOKEN OF OUR LOYALTY AND OUR PRAYER."

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.h ... 946596D6CF

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Once again I have punctured your entire scheme of logic so don't even try to come with sissy excuses to me ever again. I have no ear for ladyboy moans.

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I would rather remain in "the foot-note" of Somalia then prostitute like your ancestors :)

This is has already been talked at lengths in a topic started by Xplaya.

You will find it here:

>viewtopic.php?f=18&t=147363&p=1772577


All in all I believe the conversation is concluded. I want to leave you saying, however, that it is not in my interest nor my desire to belittle your clan or any Somali clan in regards to historical achievement since I am not a believer in zero-sum-gain. Rather I am a believer in positive-sum-gain and that every clan's historical achievement just adds that much more to SOMALI history. With that said, I would hope both you and Somaliweyn understand why we found it necessarily, albet immaturely in hindsight, to investigate considering the nature of the topic's origins and the re-introduction of this topic by your camp in the hopes of a political reprieve vis-a-vis historical emancipation. It was nothing personal.

Voltage,

I have demolished your oh so holy but entirely false pretensions about Somali history and taken the air out of your insinuations about patriotic marehan versus traitor Mudulood. Its uncomfortable to be left in a compromised position, so predictably since you cant defend those tragically threadbare claims you cant do better than running around with empty e-victories. Next time don't even start a thread you can't finish leatle boy.

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i have read that thread even before i posted the documents. I am 100% certain that your clan was included in the petition to serve the Brits. If you want, we can debate about it.

[quote="Voltage"]This is has already been talked at lengths in a topic started by Xplaya.

You will find it here:

>viewtopic.php?f=18&t=147363&p=1772577


All in all I believe the conversation is concluded. I want to leave you saying, however, that it is not in my interest nor my desire to belittle your clan or any Somali clan in regards to historical achievement since I am not a believer in zero-sum-gain. Rather I am a believer in positive-sum-gain and that every clan's historical achievement just adds that much more to SOMALI history. With that said, I would hope both you and Somaliweyn understand why we found it necessarily, albet immaturely in hindsight, to investigate considering the nature of the topic's origins and the re-introduction of this topic by your camp in the hopes of a political reprieve vis-a-vis historical emancipation. It was nothing personal.[/quote]

looool. You have grown intellectualy since our last encounter. Good to see you can take it like a man. Now call off the rest of the Red Berets, its time for retreat till the mighty donkey cavalry come to the rescue.

Twisted, have you ever seen me say "I destroyed you so and so". Let me tell you what Bubba said, he said "you aint great till others notice you are great".

It is time for you to have the self-confidence to let the audience decide.

Every single topic I have seen whether with the Sade Lobby or others, you are always the first one giving yourself victory. Lack of self-confidence permeates.



p.s. If you would like to see an analytical third-party description of Marehan patriotism, there is over 25 pages of it dedicated to the Marehan in the book called "The King's African Rifles". A volume of all British major operations in Africa, infact one whole chapter fittingly called the "Marehan Offensive" is dedicated to this clan group. Check it out it has to be in your school library since it is in both of our libraries.

This book:

http://books.google.com/books?id=L8IvAA ... les&pgis=1

[quote="Somaliweyn"][quote="Voltage"]This is has already been talked at lengths in a topic started by Xplaya.

You will find it here:

>viewtopic.php?f=18&t=147363&p=1772577


All in all I believe the conversation is concluded. I want to leave you saying, however, that it is not in my interest nor my desire to belittle your clan or any Somali clan in regards to historical achievement since I am not a believer in zero-sum-gain. Rather I am a believer in positive-sum-gain and that every clan's historical achievement just adds that much more to SOMALI history. With that said, I would hope both you and Somaliweyn understand why we found it necessarily, albet immaturely in hindsight, to investigate considering the nature of the topic's origins and the re-introduction of this topic by your camp in the hopes of a political reprieve vis-a-vis historical emancipation. It was nothing personal.[/quote]

looool. You have grown intellectualy since our last encounter. Good to see you can take it like a man. Now call off the rest of the Red Berets, its time for retreat till the mighty donkey cavalry come to the rescue.[/quote]


And what a way to call a truce kkkkkkk

Signal an opening, but do not under any circumstances make yourself vulnerable. Rageedi wallahi kkkk

Voltage,

If you repeat lies, i will repeat the truth- over and over and over. The truth will not be drowned by lies. You were the one who opened multiple threads to claim an empty e-victory. NOT ME. I am the most humble person you will ever meet, but don't ever take it for a weakness. You can brand me whatever you want. It doesn't matter. i know I make people like you uncomfortable as the facts I post are often not flattering to you or your ill-conceived notions about history and reality.

lol @ TL & SW.

Beelaha Mudulood demolished the Qule Crew ! They should retreat on their magical flying donkeys !