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Re: Merged:It's official: Professor Jawaari is the next Spea

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Shirib wrote:
Murax wrote:Interesting. I'm sure most Daroods voted for Jawaari, but I thought this would be really close as all the Hawiye would vote for Sakiin to sideline Darood. I guess Sakiin didn't have enough money :lol:
Why the hell would they vote for Darood? The biggest threat for Presidency was Sakiin, they wanted him out. Jawaari was hand picked by Sheik Shariif.

I don't get it. Hawiye will still have to contend with a Darood for President. Do You really think Sakiin had a better shot than Abdiwali or Farmaajo? By Hawiye voting for Sakiin they could've killed two birds with one stone by eliminating Farmaajo and Abdiwali in one swipe, and only having to compete with Sakiin.
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Re: Merged:It's official: Professor Jawaari is the next Spea

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Jawaari was orchestrated by Sheik Shariif not Majeerteen. He wanted to get rid of Sakiin, because sakiin was his biggest threat. The other Darood followed suite cause it was in their interest.
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Re: Merged:It's official: Professor Jawaari is the next Spea

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Cumar-Labasuul wrote:Shirib, does it make any difference to you if say farmaajo wins or abdiweli or even shariif
Yea I want someone who will do the following

1) All the top posts in Shabeelada Hoose, Baay and Bakool should be given to Habar Gedir
2) With the recent capture of Marka, Sheik Yusuf Siyaad should reclaim his kingdombe made governeor of Shabeelada Hoose.
3) Cirfo should be allowed to retake Afgooye.
4) Buur Hakaba should be ruled by Al Shabaab, even if the rest of Somalia becomes free
:lol: Saxiib, don't become disenchanted. Form a mamuul goboleed and resist Xamar.
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Re: Merged:It's official: Professor Jawaari is the next Spea

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Shirib wrote:
Murax wrote:Interesting. I'm sure most Daroods voted for Jawaari, but I thought this would be really close as all the Hawiye would vote for Sakiin to sideline Darood. I guess Sakiin didn't have enough money :lol:
Why the hell would they vote for Darood? The biggest threat for Presidency was Sakiin, they wanted him out. Jawaari was hand picked by Sheik Shariif.

I don't get it. Hawiye will still have to contend with a Darood for President. Do You really think Sakiin had a better shot than Abdiwali or Farmaajo? By Hawiye voting for Sakiin they could've killed two birds with one stone by eliminating Farmaajo and Abdiwali in one swipe, and only having to compete with Sakiin.
Sakiin had the best chance, better than Sheik Shariif. He was leading things. Sheik Shariif's biggest threat was Sakiin. Jawaari was Sheik Shariifs man. It's politics, get rid of your biggest opponent first.
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Re: Merged:It's official: Professor Jawaari is the next Spea

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AbdiWahab252 wrote:
Shirib wrote:
Cumar-Labasuul wrote:Shirib, does it make any difference to you if say farmaajo wins or abdiweli or even shariif
Yea I want someone who will do the following

1) All the top posts in Shabeelada Hoose, Baay and Bakool should be given to Habar Gedir
2) With the recent capture of Marka, Sheik Yusuf Siyaad should reclaim his kingdombe made governeor of Shabeelada Hoose.
3) Cirfo should be allowed to retake Afgooye.
4) Buur Hakaba should be ruled by Al Shabaab, even if the rest of Somalia becomes free
:lol: Saxiib, don't become disenchanted. Form a mamuul goboleed and resist Xamar.
Madarkicis should reclaim their kingdom.
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Shirib

Bay and Bakool Mirifle have it on lock so i dont even understand why you feel threatened and Shabeele Hoose has other major clans and you are already the governor there :lol:
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dad baa siyaasada wiligeed ku jiray mana fahmaan, bal fiiriya Murax iyo Voltage believing a Darood will become president lol when in actuality all their auditioning for is the PM position. but if anything sh. shariif has always opted for new faces for the pm selection, who credit be given have excelled and are purely based on merit while respecting the 4.5 formula
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Sakin is out of the race but he will still have a say in who will get elected President. Hopefully He takes revenge on Sheikh Dalxiis.
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cosob i understand what u saying u want sections of the rahanweyn votes its a good way to do it

But remember the mjs can get sections of the rahanweyn and habargedir votes what you gonna do than

Hg would want pm position



Sagaashan u dont really understand puntlanders puntland will never ever declare secession not in a million years
Why would they get the prime minister position they have the biggest state in somalia
They can get the presidency. Puntland just threatens the south with secession for leverage but its just talks
Puntland politics is aimed towards xamar its what keeps majeerteen united as a tribe getting things done in xamar

Waleh majeerteen ma baratiid puntlanders are never ever interested in secession

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Re: Merged:It's official: Professor Jawaari is the next Spea

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Osob101 wrote:Shirib

Bay and Bakool Mirifle have it on lock so i dont even understand why you feel threatened and Shabeele Hoose has other major clans and you are already the governor there :lol:
We need Habar Gedir to rule us. We're obviously not capable of ruling ourselves.

And Buur Hakaba needs Al Shabaab. 100 years of Al Shabaab.
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Re: Merged:It's official: Professor Jawaari is the next Spea

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Shirib,

This Cabdiweli-Sharif Ahmed ticket will not go far. I was one of the few who advocated for CabdiQassim to select Shaatigaduud as PM in Caarta solely to bring Bay Bakool, Shabelle Hoose and Benadir into TNG held territory. If he picked Shaatigaduud, he would have had a better chance of succeeding by bringing a large tract of Somalia and its most populace cities under the TNG.
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Re: Merged:It's official: Professor Jawaari is the next Spea

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Sharif will win the presidency.

The darood has split and cannot be regarded as a single block vote anymore. The dhulbahantes are pissed with what they see as a MJ and MX starnglhold on Darood political ambition, I believe they will vote for Sharif.

Abdiweli and Farmaajo are going head to head an one will fall out in the early rounds and I don't see either MJ or MX voting for each other, with Faroole's dislike of Farmaajo he may pull the MJ vote elsewhere in order to secure the Prime Ministerial position.

Sharif Hasan though out of the Presidential race is still out there, he may sway the Rahanweyn vote to whoever ensure he stays relevant in Somala politics, with his dislike for Farmaajo and with Sheik Sharif fighting tooth and nail to get in his cronies to Parliament, the Sheik Sharif/Sharif Hasan unholy alliance could return.


I think it may end up being a Sheik Sharif presidency with either Abdiweli or Abdikarim as PM.
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Re: Merged:It's official: Professor Jawaari is the next Spea

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Substance wrote:Sakin is out of the race but he will still have a say in who will get elected President. Hopefully He takes revenge on Sheikh Dalxiis.
He's maneuvering for finance minister or interior minister. Who ever can guarantee that will get 61 D&M votes. Is Farmaajo up to the job?
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Re: Merged:It's official: Professor Jawaari is the next Spea

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Politics is all about leveraging, if you sideline the MR what do they have-no mamuul, no unity, no state, no international presence. but try the same thing with Puntland, lose 1/3 of Somalia (allegedly lol), sxb they have already implemented the 'ma aqoonsanin' card to Farmaajo why should that be distant option. In Somalia politics, the Puntlanders get what they want and that means everything. They are the only power in place that can counter balance the Hawiye dominance in Somalia, thank god for tolka :)
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Re: Merged:It's official: Professor Jawaari is the next Spea

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Shirib wrote:
Osob101 wrote:Shirib

Bay and Bakool Mirifle have it on lock so i dont even understand why you feel threatened and Shabeele Hoose has other major clans and you are already the governor there :lol:
We need Habar Gedir to rule us. We're obviously not capable of ruling ourselves.

And Buur Hakaba needs Al Shabaab. 100 years of Al Shabaab.
I Guess you are Al Shabaab supporter than :lol:, i dont care about Mirifle but Digil have a special place in my heart :mrgreen:
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