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KnowThySelf23 wrote:

thehappyone wrote:

Twist wrote:The good old Snet has been reduced to this these days!

RIP!

Look at the related treads and nothing has changed, if anything, peoples use of corect spelling and grammar has improved

2006
arabs biased towards somali's???
WHY DO ARABS
2007
arabs abandon the new arabs. hutus with stupid arab names
Arabs VS Africans in Somalia: Hawiye Arabs-Darod Africans
2009
Who Say's I Don't Like Arabs?
2011
If Arabs cared about somali niggers
2012
arabs or no?


But I agree there are way too many trolls in recent days. The forum was better when me and jeffo were considered trolls, now we've been put to shame.

TheMailMan wrote:

BeyondQabil wrote:

TheMailMan wrote: SMH you don't get it.

If someone asks you what you are, tell them you're a Horn African Cushite. And leave it at that. Don't come to me with that Black Power or Black Unity yadda yadda nonsense. Our Somali people have never been like this in our history.

There is no "Black". It's nothing but a social construct created by White Americans in the 20th century, and the Somali is not genetically similar at ALL to a Kikuyu, or a Hausa, or a Zulu. There is only "Bantu" or "Cushite" or "Khoisan" and that's it. West Africans and Southern Africans and Afro-Americans ALL come under the category of "Bantus".....we don't fit that category. We have our OWN category with Ethiopians and we are much different from the rest of the continent.

And who came up with the "Cushite" classification? And what about the "Bantu" classification? Do you even know why Bantus are called so? You must be a fool wallahi. Where did you go to school?

Are you gonna talk to me about semantics or are you gonna discuss the very real genetic classifications which leads to Nigerians and Congolese being called "Bantus"? Are you kidding me right now? Stop avoiding the topic and actually address the issue here.

"Bantu" is nothing but a large group of languages which share a common basis, spoken by a people who are genetically and racially similar to each other, and who live in Western, Central, Southern, and Eastern Africa. A Somali and Ethiopian does NOT fit this classification at all. You and I both know that.

Bantus originated from Western Africa and expanded into the Southern and Eastern portion of Africa within the last 1000 years or so.

"Bantus" and "Cushites" are terms that came about long before the advent of Genetic Science. So for you to insist that you are a Cushite, and NOT black, is to be unreasonable. "Cushite" is an artificial classification that has little to do with Cush. At least the term Bantu is more relevant. The reason why I called you out is because you insisted in classifying yourself based on Social constructs Made by white folks and rejecting a social construct that's generally accepted, claiming that it was made by whites. (Even people who never went to school and have never met a white person will call you black and will call a white person white, but ONLY a person who has received a westernized education will call you a CUSHITE.

Now that you want to base less on semantics, I'll agree with you that Somalis are a unique tribe - Just like any other tribe.

thehappyone wrote:

wtf????? how did you do that??????????? teach me your ways

ps you've got a lot of time on your hands mister

BeyondQabil wrote:

TheMailMan wrote:

BeyondQabil wrote:
And who came up with the "Cushite" classification? And what about the "Bantu" classification? Do you even know why Bantus are called so? You must be a fool wallahi. Where did you go to school?

Are you gonna talk to me about semantics or are you gonna discuss the very real genetic classifications which leads to Nigerians and Congolese being called "Bantus"? Are you kidding me right now? Stop avoiding the topic and actually address the issue here.

"Bantu" is nothing but a large group of languages which share a common basis, spoken by a people who are genetically and racially similar to each other, and who live in Western, Central, Southern, and Eastern Africa. A Somali and Ethiopian does NOT fit this classification at all. You and I both know that.

Bantus originated from Western Africa and expanded into the Southern and Eastern portion of Africa within the last 1000 years or so.

"Bantus" and "Cushites" are terms that came about long before the advent of Genetic Science. So for you to insist that you are a Cushite, and NOT black, is to be unreasonable. "Cushite" is an artificial classification that has little to do with Cush. At least the term Bantu is more relevant. The reason why I called you out is because you insisted in classifying yourself based on Social constructs Made by white folks and rejecting a social construct that's generally accepted, claiming that it was made by whites. (Even people who never went to school and have never met a white person will call you black and will call a white person white, but ONLY a person who has received a westernized education will call you a CUSHITE.

Now that you want to base less on semantics, I'll agree with you that Somalis are a unique tribe - Just like any other tribe.

Fair enough. You agree with me, except regarding the semantics. I completely reject any White Man's attempt to associate me with the Khoisans or the Bantus, or any of the other groups of people in West Africa or Southern Africa. There is nothing at all that links me (genetically, historically, culturally) to them. Nothing at all.

TheMailMan wrote:

Fair enough. You agree with me, except regarding the semantics. I completely reject any White Man's attempt to associate me with the Khoisans or the Bantus, or any of the other groups of people in West Africa or Southern Africa. There is nothing at all that links me (genetically, historically, culturally) to them. Nothing at all.

You reject and attempt to associate you with khosians or Bantus yet you claim white mans pseudo science of of e1b? DNA testing has been proven a hoax and easily tamper able. But if we must, you do know that there are wide nose jareer haired Africans who are e1b right? I hope you will claim them as your brothers as well , just as there are straight featured ppl like Fulani, Wolof that are e1a like a Nigerian. You seem to forget that e1b and e1a both are E meaning they are in the SAME GROUP. And what history/culture do you share with groups like Berber who I've heard people with your logic say is part of some e1b medit race? Nothing. west Africans have history with them, not Somalis. It was tribes around modern Mali and Senegal along with Berber tribes who made up the al Almoravid in Andalusia and was part of the moorish empire. If you want to claim Somali and be that, fine, but don't go kiss ass under other groups you have nothing in common with like u say u don't the "Bantu".

Saxony wrote:You reject and attempt to associate you with khosians or Bantus yet you claim white mans pseudo science of of e1b? DNA testing has been proven a hoax and easily tamper able. But if we must, you do know that there are wide nose jareer haired Africans who are e1b right? I hope you will claim them as your brothers as well , just as there are straight featured ppl like Fulani, Wolof that are e1a like a Nigerian. You seem to forget that e1b and e1a both are E meaning they are in the SAME GROUP. And what history/culture do you share with groups like Berber who I've heard people with your logic say is part of some e1b medit race? Nothing. west Africans have history with them, not Somalis. It was tribes around modern Mali and Senegal along with Berber tribes who made up the al Almoravid in Andalusia and was part of the moorish empire. If you want to claim Somali and be that, fine, but don't go kiss ass under other groups you have nothing in common with like u say u don't the "Bantu".

E1b is like 40,000 years old - before the development of modern phenotypes. R1b that the Irish have and Q1 of Native Americans are closer in age than E1b1a and E1b1b are.

The branch Somalis belong to E1b1b1a1 is mostly carried by North Africans, Balkanites, Sudanese and Horn Africans. No Jareers have that grouping.

Anyhow, male haplogroups are subject to founder effects and can distort racial ancestry. That's why scientists look more at mtDNA when gauging racial ancestry. Somalis have 40% to 50% non-African maternal DNA that the Jareer don't have. Also, many of the African L's we have are unique to Horn Africans like L3i, L3x, L3a, L3h etc.

We have no close genetic ties with Bantus and West Africans.

Itrah wrote:

Saxony wrote:You reject and attempt to associate you with khosians or Bantus yet you claim white mans pseudo science of of e1b? DNA testing has been proven a hoax and easily tamper able. But if we must, you do know that there are wide nose jareer haired Africans who are e1b right? I hope you will claim them as your brothers as well , just as there are straight featured ppl like Fulani, Wolof that are e1a like a Nigerian. You seem to forget that e1b and e1a both are E meaning they are in the SAME GROUP. And what history/culture do you share with groups like Berber who I've heard people with your logic say is part of some e1b medit race? Nothing. west Africans have history with them, not Somalis. It was tribes around modern Mali and Senegal along with Berber tribes who made up the al Almoravid in Andalusia and was part of the moorish empire. If you want to claim Somali and be that, fine, but don't go kiss ass under other groups you have nothing in common with like u say u don't the "Bantu".

E1b is like 40,000 years old - before the development of modern phenotypes. R1b that the Irish have and Q1 of Native Americans are closer in age than E1b1a and E1b1b are.

The branch Somalis belong to E1b1b1a1 is mostly carried by North Africans, Balkanites, Sudanese and Horn Africans. No Jareers have that grouping.

Anyhow, male haplogroups are subject to founder effects and can distort racial ancestry. That's why scientists look more at mtDNA when gauging racial ancestry. Somalis have 40% to 50% non-African maternal DNA that the Jareer don't have. Also, many of the African L's we have are unique to Horn Africans like L3i, L3x, L3a, L3h etc.

We have no close genetic ties with Bantus and West Africans.

You keep saying Bantu and west Africans. I'm speaking about FEATURES. They're are wide nosed jareer haired people that belong to that group, if I had my laptop with all my links I would've posted pictures. the adaman Islanders have wide noses and jareer hair but have no Dna connected to west Africans or Bantu. These are environmental adaptations, so there is no where to run.

Saxony wrote: You keep saying Bantu and west Africans. I'm speaking about FEATURES. They're are wide nosed jareer haired people that belong to that group, if I had my laptop with all my links I would've posted pictures. the adaman Islanders have wide noses and jareer hair but have no Dna connected to west Africans or Bantu. These are environmental adaptations, so there is no where to run.

The Andaman islanders do not look like West Africans or Bantus, just because they are dark and nappy haired does not mean they look similar. They look like weird black dwarfs. You must not have an eye for detail.

Also, they look so different from other Eurasians due to being isolated on a tiny island for 40,000 years. While on mainland Eurasia the Caucasoids and Mongoloids roamed.

Itrah wrote:

Saxony wrote: You keep saying Bantu and west Africans. I'm speaking about FEATURES. They're are wide nosed jareer haired people that belong to that group, if I had my laptop with all my links I would've posted pictures. the adaman Islanders have wide noses and jareer hair but have no Dna connected to west Africans or Bantu. These are environmental adaptations, so there is no where to run.

The Andaman islanders do not look like West Africans or Bantus, just because they are dark and nappy haired does not mean they look similar. They look like weird black dwarfs. You must not have an eye for detail.

Also, they look so different from other Eurasians due to being isolated on a tiny island for 40,000 years. While on mainland Eurasia the Caucasoids and Mongoloids roamed.

Your missing the point. I'm pointing out the features that this guy is running from, wide nose and nappy hair is in the e1b. Not everyone is running around with abnormally thin nose and greasy curls. The Jamaican ass woopings have turned some of these guys mad, they are trying sooooo hard

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Saxony wrote:

Itrah wrote:

Saxony wrote:You reject and attempt to associate you with khosians or Bantus yet you claim white mans pseudo science of of e1b? DNA testing has been proven a hoax and easily tamper able. But if we must, you do know that there are wide nose jareer haired Africans who are e1b right? I hope you will claim them as your brothers as well , just as there are straight featured ppl like Fulani, Wolof that are e1a like a Nigerian. You seem to forget that e1b and e1a both are E meaning they are in the SAME GROUP. And what history/culture do you share with groups like Berber who I've heard people with your logic say is part of some e1b medit race? Nothing. west Africans have history with them, not Somalis. It was tribes around modern Mali and Senegal along with Berber tribes who made up the al Almoravid in Andalusia and was part of the moorish empire. If you want to claim Somali and be that, fine, but don't go kiss ass under other groups you have nothing in common with like u say u don't the "Bantu".

E1b is like 40,000 years old - before the development of modern phenotypes. R1b that the Irish have and Q1 of Native Americans are closer in age than E1b1a and E1b1b are.

The branch Somalis belong to E1b1b1a1 is mostly carried by North Africans, Balkanites, Sudanese and Horn Africans. No Jareers have that grouping.

Anyhow, male haplogroups are subject to founder effects and can distort racial ancestry. That's why scientists look more at mtDNA when gauging racial ancestry. Somalis have 40% to 50% non-African maternal DNA that the Jareer don't have. Also, many of the African L's we have are unique to Horn Africans like L3i, L3x, L3a, L3h etc.

We have no close genetic ties with Bantus and West Africans.

You keep saying Bantu and west Africans. I'm speaking about FEATURES. They're are wide nosed jareer haired people that belong to that group, if I had my laptop with all my links I would've posted pictures. the adaman Islanders have wide noses and jareer hair but have no Dna connected to west Africans or Bantu. These are environmental adaptations, so there is no where to run.

don't south sudanese nilotes fit into that group? they are as jareer as you can get.....

and I've noticed the fulani resemble as a lot as well

Saxony wrote: Your missing the point. I'm pointing out the features that this guy is running from, wide nose and nappy hair is in the e1b. Not everyone is running around with abnormally thin nose and greasy curls. The Jamaican ass woopings have turned some of these guys mad, they are trying sooooo hard

1) Those people with wide nose and 'primitive look' in E1b split from Somalis/Ethiopians over 40,000 years ago. Before development of modern phenotypes.

2) They have totally different maternal DNA. Perhaps they got those weird looks from their maternal ancestry.

Also, I don't see what you are trying to prove.

The E1b1b1a branch that white Albanians and Kosovars have is closer to Somalis than the E1b of Nigerians.

Albanians (+50% E1b1b1a):

Saxony, I am not talking about features, you low-IQ inbred. I'm talking about GENETICS. Somalis have absolutely no genetic relations to Bantus whatsoever. What part of that is hard for you to understand?

Australian Aborigines have some features that might resemble Bantus. But that doesn't mean they're even remotely related.

Learn to differentiate the two, and don't come to me with your weak pseudo-science.

Somalis are E1B1B1 and we have fallen under these classifications for thousands of years before any European set foot in Somalia. We are a proud and noble race with a great history. And we won't allow some xayawaan such as yourself to misappropriate our identity and group us with people who we have nothing in common with.

I would be just as furious if you attempted to claim Somalis as Arab as well. We're not

By the way, not all Somalis are E1b1b... there's a large group of native Somalis that falls under T.

Frequency of T reaches 30% in the Ogaden province and almost 40% in Somaliland.

Somaliwaste wrote:

SooMaal11 wrote: Your name describes you perfectly.

I know

and this is you, asskissing the chump everywhere on the internet

Get off the haterade. If you have something against him let him know on twitter instead of talking shit on a forum.
Gaal diil lakin gartisa see. That quote sums up this conversation.