Qabil Lives Matter (War Dadkani Waa Imtixaan)

[Kaafiye]

Kaafiye, I believe you see all people as equal, much like myself. This thread is ridiculous. I assumed it was perfectly caadi to have affinity for one's people and to differentiate one's self from others. The reason Africa has lost some of its diversity in looks is due to co-mingling, whereas Somalis have largely not. Pygmies in Congo and Khosian in South Africa are on the brink of extinction. Even the Maasai have historically absorbed Cushitic males. Just because Somalia isn't doing well at present doesn't mean they want to look worse than the Diktore's mugshots in 50 years. These folks don't get it.

Wallahi they really don't get it. I'm pro-diversity. I'm pro-social cohesion. I actually wish nothing but the best for the Bantus, but that doesn't mean that I want my own people to be wiped out. It's very hard for some people to understand this.

Most people hear my words and then scream "RACIST!" without even looking at the substance of my arguments. I've repeatedly argued against anyone who belittles Jareers, I've argued against people who falsely believed that they are of limited intelligence/ability (viewtopic.php?f=18&t=367230&start=30). And I've even advocated that Somalia creates and maintains good relations with our African neighbors.

But to these close-minded people on this forum, I'm apparently some "racist" because I favor a Somali homeland and preserving our ethnicity/culture. The Jews, Arabs, Bantus, Chinese, Armenians, Koreans and everyone else has their own homelands where they comprise over 90% of the population. But suddenly I'm some sort of "racist" because I want to look out for Somali interests and that I put Somalis first.

Not Arabs. Not Jareers. Not Whites. But I put Somalis first.

Apparently that's a bit too "radical" for some of these self-hating Somalis.

[Hyperactive]

Kaafiya,

You missed my point. You are just racist if not worse.

[NobleGeeljire]

This is what a Somali woman looks like:




Intermarrying with others will destroy this "Somali look" once and for all. I don't think Hyperactive and Machiavelli2 realize the serious implications of what they're proposing.

Kaafiye, I believe you see all people as equal, much like myself. This thread is ridiculous. I assumed it was perfectly caadi to have affinity for one's people and to differentiate one's self from others. The reason Africa has lost some of its diversity in looks is due to co-mingling, whereas Somalis have largely not. Pygmies in Congo and Khosian in South Africa are on the brink of extinction. Even the Maasai have historically absorbed Cushitic males. Just because Somalia isn't doing well at present doesn't mean they want to look worse than the Diktore's mugshots in 50 years. These folks don't get it.

No chance i will never leave it up to faith, we need self preservation priority.

it hurts me to see the before and after pics of mogadishu and how these bantus look like somali half breeds.

for your info somalis have already been breed out kenya before the bantus came the Raxanweyn Sab somalis were living all over kenya.



and



its only a matter of time when integration and assimilation liberal dummies from the west poison us.

Somalia in year 2050 will bantu land!

[NobleGeeljire]

Kaafiya,

You missed my point. You are just racist if not worse.

Saaxiib, you minsunderstand no one is arguing against intermarrying. it has always existed, the difference is it was always the minority that did that in all cultures, while the majoirty kept self preserving. Nothing against minority interrmarriage.

The only thing we are saying is that these bantus have already displaced native somalis from many towns and try to lay claim to somali territory and land which is owned by indegenous somali clans.

Everyone is asking why such a huge population of them that were 35 000 before the war is 1 million today and want to stay in somalia when they have their culture,language tribe names intact and have a homeland they can return to?

The tanzanian & mozambique government have already told them that they can return home & get land property and citenzenship.

with the history they have in somalia why would they want to stay to remind them that the only reason they are there is because of slavery? when they can live happy with pride and dignity in their own homeland.

i dont know why people want the whole continet of africa to be cluster fuck of people and less diverse.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Itra, I'm sure I'm mixed with bantu, but before we came to gulf...lol

I don't see differences , we all human. If you see them. It attractive is fine. I don't see attractive pure Somali. I am 3 generations mixed myself.

We are not all the same. There are differences between us and the other Africans:



Source: http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/a ... en.1004393

That's a very strange map. It suggests north africans/egyptians have bantu blood and horners don't. Yet we would be considered black but they wouldn't. What gives?

[Itrah]

That's a very strange map. It suggests north africans/egyptians have bantu blood and horners don't. Yet we would be considered black but they wouldn't. What gives?

Maghrebi nations have mixed with slaves from West Africa during the middle ages.

On the other hand, Horners only have localized African ancestry (native to Ethiopia and surroundings - non-Bantu) and less Eurasian ancestry than North Africans overall. North Africans are 75% to 85% Eurasian, while Horners only 35% to 50% That is the main difference.

[Sophisticate]

Kaafiye and Noble according to their logic by extension I'm a racist too because I believe in Somali first, tribe second. Why has it become ok to degrade other Somalis that have more in common with you but to find it sacrilegious to discuss a subject like the reconstitution of Somali borders and potential demographic shifts in the next 50 years. We're seen as paranoid, when we're really Nostradamus-like. I read a poignant article that discussed this very subject about mass migration from Ethiopia-to-Somalia and Kenya-to-Somalia in the foreseeable future (given the fact that Somalia is sparsely populated), and how borders of nation states are becoming even more porous. I remember the author suggesting some propaganda about how this would contribute to an intellectual renaissances and economic revival, what hogwash. Ethiopia is poor and doesn't care for its people. Kenya is corrupt and dictated by foreigners. And Somalia at present is both, I don't see an expanding of intellectual horizons at all coming from this, more like a stunting. We have puppet politicians with no vision, ducking for cover from some ragtag band of self-detonators, while AMISOM have a nice meal, good salary and a place to sleep on the public purse (meanwhile remaining rather safe as poorly compensated Somalis die on the front lines in the fight against Alshabab). All I see is trouble if beesha Meles and beesha Kenyatti overtake the habars, d-block, h-block and dir. They have greater military power and cohesion, hence we could witness a hotel Rwanda of immense proportions, if they have their way. Kenya is less than smart, I assume Ethiopia would probably be a mastermind of such an operation, pulling strings in the background.

[NobleGeeljire]

Kaafiye and Noble according to their logic by extension I'm a racist too because I believe in Somali first, tribe second. Why has it become ok to degrade other Somalis that have more in common with you but to find it sacrilegious to discuss a subject like the reconstitution of Somali borders and potential demographic shifts in the next 50 years. We're seen as paranoid, when we're really Nostradamus-like. I read a poignant article that discussed this very subject about mass migration from Ethiopia-to-Somalia and Kenya-to-Somalia in the foreseeable future (given the fact that Somalia is sparsely populated), and how borders of nation states are becoming even more porous. I remember the author suggesting some propaganda about how this would contribute to an intellectual renaissances and economic revival, what hogwash. Ethiopia is poor and doesn't care for its people. Kenya is corrupt and dictated by foreigners. And Somalia at present is both, I don't see an expanding of intellectual horizons at all coming from this, more like a stunting. We have puppet politicians with no vision, ducking for cover from some ragtag band of self-detonators, while AMISOM have a nice meal, good salary and a place to sleep on the public purse (meanwhile remaining rather safe as poorly compensated Somalis die on the front lines in the fight against Alshabab). All I see is trouble if beesha Meles and beesha Kenyatti overtake the habars, d-block, h-block and dir. They have greater military power and cohesion, hence we could witness a hotel Rwanda of immense proportions, if they have their way. Kenya is less than smart, I assume Ethiopia would probably be a mastermind of such an operation, pulling strings in the background.

Libaax!

Walahi Abaayo you are very smart Absoulutely Agree 100% with what you said, and i read that article when it was posted on twitter. It gave me nightmares.

I want us to become the next china or japan of Africa but even greater then them. This will never work if we undermine our own interests & values. We are only 8 million yet we want to shot ourselves in the leg and say to non-Somalis come fuck us everyone we need to be kind to you, like wtf.

Everytime i look at Egypt i think to myself , people who were related to used to live there thousands of years ago and now they are gone.

We should learn from history and strive. To think that a whole section of Raxanweyn somali clan historically got either absorbed or pushed back in kenya will tell you alot.

Now we have a Female presidential candidate who is half bantu and half madhiban trying to buy votes with her story and gender to make somalia into a more shithole than it is.

I wont allow it we wont allow it Just wait and see The next Somali Fidel Castro will come forward to save the day. Believe it!!

Dhulka geeska Afrika Soomaali baa leh!

[Machiavelli2]

Somalinet waxaa loo kala baxey Confederates iyo wixii kale oo Ka soo horjeeda. Marka waa inoo dagaal. May Allah SWT bless and give them more patience to our Bantu Somalis
Muslim brothers and sisters. We honour, respect and consider you as FULL Somalis and fight besides you for the recognition of all your Rights as FULL Somali citizens. Those who suggest to be dealt with you like CAIR Muslim citizens and be deported from your country will fail. 'You will never walk alone.'

[Kaafiye]

Somalinet waxaa loo kala baxey Confederates iyo wixii kale oo Ka soo horjeeda. Marka waa inoo dagaal. May Allah SWT bless and give them more patience to our Bantu Somalis
Muslim brothers and sisters. We honour, respect and consider you as FULL Somalis and fight besides you for the recognition of all your Rights as FULL Somali citizens. Those who suggest to be dealt with you like CAIR Muslim citizens and be deported from your country will fail. 'You will never walk alone.'

Now you're comparing us to the Confederates, an army of people who wanted to uphold slavery and subjugate a different race of people. You're f-king unbelievable.

Stop with the character assassination and look at the substance of what I'm saying. I know you can't be this wilfully blind.

[Machiavelli2]

Somalinet waxaa loo kala baxey Confederates iyo wixii kale oo Ka soo horjeeda. Marka waa inoo dagaal. May Allah SWT bless and give them more patience to our Bantu Somalis
Muslim brothers and sisters. We honour, respect and consider you as FULL Somalis and fight besides you for the recognition of all your Rights as FULL Somali citizens. Those who suggest to be dealt with you like CAIR Muslim citizens and be deported from your country will fail. 'You will never walk alone.'

Now you're comparing us to the Confederates, an army of people who wanted to uphold slavery and subjugate a different race of people. You're f-king unbelievable.

Stop with the character assassination and look at the substance of what I'm saying. I know you can't be this wilfully blind.

Ina Adeer

You are proposing a mythical Somali purity that never existed, the Confederates, KKK, Nazis and Fascist ideologies are based on such ideas. Therefore, when one excludes "others" on the basis of race and ethnicity, it is racism. Tan kale, some of your Confederate team members are proposing Bantu Somalis to be deported to where their ancestors came from. That sits fine with you as long as they are in your team. Marka, waxaa loo kala baxey Confederates iyo inta kale, haddii aadan racist ahayn, na soo raac. Choice is yours Ina Adeer.

[Kaafiye]

Somalinet waxaa loo kala baxey Confederates iyo wixii kale oo Ka soo horjeeda. Marka waa inoo dagaal. May Allah SWT bless and give them more patience to our Bantu Somalis
Muslim brothers and sisters. We honour, respect and consider you as FULL Somalis and fight besides you for the recognition of all your Rights as FULL Somali citizens. Those who suggest to be dealt with you like CAIR Muslim citizens and be deported from your country will fail. 'You will never walk alone.'

Now you're comparing us to the Confederates, an army of people who wanted to uphold slavery and subjugate a different race of people. You're f-king unbelievable.

Stop with the character assassination and look at the substance of what I'm saying. I know you can't be this wilfully blind.

Ina Adeer

You are proposing a mythical Somali purity that never existed, the Confederates, KKK, Nazis and Fascist ideologies are based on such ideas. Therefore, when one excludes "others" on the basis of race and ethnicity, it is racism. Tan kale, some of your Confederate team members are proposing Bantu Somalis to be deported to where their ancestors came from. That sits fine with you as long as they are in your team. Marka, waxaa loo kala baxey Confederates iyo inta kale, haddii aadan racist ahayn, na soo raac. Choice is yours Ina Adeer.

And please tell me who gave you the right to determine what's racist and what's not? If you disagree with someone, then go ahead and make your disagreement known. But character assassinating people is unacceptable. You know very well that I'm not a racist, which is defined as someone who hates or who looks down on someone based on their racial origin.

I'd be just as against Whites or Indians or Arabs or Chinese people coming into Somalia in large numbers, so your point fails there.

[zumaale]

Unless Bantus get access to Teknikos, heavy arms and receive the patronage of a foreign power they pose no threat whatsoever to Skinnies that are already fighting for every scrap of bread.

Qurbakoor Somalis and their fear mongering, one would think they attended a Nazification course.

[Itrah]

Unless Bantus get access to Teknikos, heavy arms and receive the patronage of a foreign power they pose no threat whatsoever to Skinnies that are already fighting for every scrap of bread.

Qurbakoor Somalis and their fear mongering, one would think they attended a Nazification course.

Today over a million, in a couple of decades there will be over ten million of them in Somalia.

Bantu villages in South Somalia have the highest fertility rates known to man.

[SaciidAyanleh]

Kaafiye and Noble according to their logic by extension I'm a racist too because I believe in Somali first, tribe second. Why has it become ok to degrade other Somalis that have more in common with you but to find it sacrilegious to discuss a subject like the reconstitution of Somali borders and potential demographic shifts in the next 50 years. We're seen as paranoid, when we're really Nostradamus-like. I read a poignant article that discussed this very subject about mass migration from Ethiopia-to-Somalia and Kenya-to-Somalia in the foreseeable future (given the fact that Somalia is sparsely populated), and how borders of nation states are becoming even more porous. I remember the author suggesting some propaganda about how this would contribute to an intellectual renaissances and economic revival, what hogwash. Ethiopia is poor and doesn't care for its people. Kenya is corrupt and dictated by foreigners. And Somalia at present is both, I don't see an expanding of intellectual horizons at all coming from this, more like a stunting. We have puppet politicians with no vision, ducking for cover from some ragtag band of self-detonators, while AMISOM have a nice meal, good salary and a place to sleep on the public purse (meanwhile remaining rather safe as poorly compensated Somalis die on the front lines in the fight against Alshabab). All I see is trouble if beesha Meles and beesha Kenyatti overtake the habars, d-block, h-block and dir. They have greater military power and cohesion, hence we could witness a hotel Rwanda of immense proportions, if they have their way. Kenya is less than smart, I assume Ethiopia would probably be a mastermind of such an operation, pulling strings in the background.

On the list of issues Somalia must tackle this is so far down the list, it's laughable.

It's racist, or at least xenophobic, because the exaggeration of the issue begs the question "why are you irrationally concerned with poor, economic migrants?"


"Oh, they're gonna create a 5th Column and act as agents for foreign State interests!"



Okay, Nostradamus.